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by **repulsewarrior** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:51 pm

...the second incident, after a shot across the bow of a Romanian bound ship, in as many weeks.

https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-r ... 023-08-16/

by **Kikapu** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:22 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:A high ranking Nato official, suggested that Ukraine could cede territory to Russia in exchange for NATO membership.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/worl ... membership

NATO is testing the waters in how to get out of this quagmire in Ukraine by Kyiv giving territory to Russia for NATO membership. Even I know that is a bullshit proposal which Zelensky will never go for, especially there are no guarantees that NATO will keep it’s word, which of course, they will not. NATO is trying desperately to end the war before they become obvious that they are no match for the Russian military and that they are nothing but a “paper tiger“.

On the other side, the Russians will not go for it either since they can keep the territory they have already taken and more as time goes by without risking of Ukraine miraculously becoming an NATO member sometime in the future. Why would Russia want to risk it?Why would they buy the cow when they can get the milk for free? :wink:

by **repulsewarrior** » Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:05 am

...will NATO sacrifice our Individual Rights as Humans to appease the likes of ''Ukrainians'' and ''Russians''?

...in the pocket of "Americans'', such appeasement is likely, given 'our' experience in the past. But it is just as likely that as intentions are changing, more reasoned thinkers may suggest wider perspectives where in this context, for everyone the changes are agreeable.

...some are already planning the spring offensive; as well.

by **Kikapu** » Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:31 am

This video describing what would happen to the world as a result of Nuclear war exchanges, which sounds a little bit like the Terminator movies by Arnold Schwarzenegger, is very frightening to say the least, and this would be just the beginning of the end for the planet Earth and life as we know it for decades to come. :shock:

by **Pyrpolizer** » Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:03 am

I don't think a nuclear war would ever start for Ukraine. Too low of value for such thing. It could start by accident or by mistake though considering the treaties expired, the US is not willing to let any Russian inspectors in etc etc.

In any case the West is already preparing the ground for Ukraine's final defeat, blaming Zelensky for everything. In fact the pressure on Ukraine to start the so called "counteroffensive" while everybody knew it had zero chance to succeed, aimed precisely on that.

In the meantime Zelensky passed a law not allowing teenagers to go out of the Country. Guess why.
He also fired all conscription officers accusing them of corruption and taking bribes. Presumably they will be replaced by people who already fought and got severely injured at war.
There's a video on twitter showing a mentally retard young man been forcibly conscripted just because he was on the list, and the officer would otherwise lose his commission, while his mother was crying and shouting, and he was just laughing not knowing what was going on. Imagine the Russians finding him in a trench...

by **Lordo** » Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:27 am

Kikapu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:A high ranking Nato official, suggested that Ukraine could cede territory to Russia in exchange for NATO membership.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/worl ... membership

NATO is testing the waters in how to get out of this quagmire in Ukraine by Kyiv giving territory to Russia for NATO membership. Even I know that is a bullshit proposal which Zelensky will never go for, especially there are no guarantees that NATO will keep it’s word, which of course, they will not. NATO is trying desperately to end the war before they become obvious that they are no match for the Russian military and that they are nothing but a “paper tiger“.

On the other side, the Russians will not go for it either since they can keep the territory they have already taken and more as time goes by without risking of Ukraine miraculously becoming an NATO member sometime in the future. Why would Russia want to risk it?Why would they buy the cow when they can get the milk for free?

You are leaving out one of the most important parties in this problem. The Easter Russian speaking Ukrainians have to be involved in these talks. Putin or any other leader will not tolerate Nato in Ukraine. The Yanks should fuck off out of Europe altogether.

It is time to kick them out in order to have peace otherwise we shall never have peace in Europe. It does not suit the Yanks' interests for Europe to be at peace.

by **Pyrpolizer** » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:40 pm

Lukashenko's interview to a Ukrainian journalist.
Things get interesting at about the middle of the timeline.
Ukraine will cease to exist...
Summary here:
https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status ... 6386862320
Full(?) interview with English subs here:

by **repulsewarrior** » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:51 pm

...i ask, what is a BBF?

...what is the Problem?

It is intentions which count.

by **repulsewarrior** » Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:41 am

...interesting; around twenty minutes, an opinion based on facts, rich with sound and images (sometimes too much of it imo), another take on Putin's motives, and his mission to that end.

The arguments are quite compelling.