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[Pyrpolizer]

I think so too. For the moment the target is Kharkiv though. Firstly to create a buffer zone towards attacks in Russian territory and secondly because the city was traditionally Russian and very close to the Russian borders. I think they will leave Odessa last to complete the whole coastline, after the Ukr Army collapses. Reason is Odessa is their jewel and they don't want to destroy it.

[repulsewarrior]

...indeed, it is the Treaty of Lausanne tossed out the window by Erdogan.

...power and its projection, in that regard nothing has changed.

...indeed, Fame and Infamy, he has a choice who feels in what way about his Legacy.

With so much changing so quickly, intentions too may change.

[Londonrake]

You must be referring to this video, LR!...........................................

You're being pedantic - and obfuscating. I posted a short video (less than a minute - not 2.5 hours) involving an incident where a Russian armoured column was caught out in the open, trying to cross a river and came under Ukrainian artillery fire.

I - like you and just about everybody - had/have no idea how many were killed. Nevertheless the drone video of the aftermath clearly showed a veritable massacre had occurred. It wasn't some sort of Photoshop contrivance. My point is that posting anything like that is really a waste of time. Which is why I tend not to bother. You have on several occasions proven that view correct.

Again, you're being pedantic. A serious claim was made in here - let's not point fingers - that the Russians had lost only 600 in the 10 month battle for Bakhmut. Not too far fetched when viewed with Shoigu's that Russia's total casualties were about 6000. You yourself claimed on several occasions that Bakhmut was a clever Russian trap to draw Ukrainians into a "meat grinder". They are always clever Russian traps. Even the disasters.

Putin's avowed objectives, when he initiated the invasion of Ukraine, were to "denazify" and "demilitarise" the country and to stop the expansion of NATO.

The idea that Finland and Sweden joining NATO "means very little to Russia" is patently absurd. The former had been neutral since WW2 and the latter for over a century. Their joining is immensely important and reduces Putin's objective to a farcical joke. The Baltic has now become, like the Med, a veritable NATO lake. In a conflict, Russia's main fleet, based at Severomorsk, would be effectively bottled up. In wartime they wouldn't be able to get out of coastal waters without being subjected to attack. A situation, with Norway/Iceland/UK/US as members, which would prevail for hundreds of miles out into the Atlantic.

NATO's strength has increased hugely and it's border with Russia by over 800 miles. Here ended - in total disaster - Putin's objective of stopping the expansion of NATO.

The "Denazifying" thing is surely a joke? An evocative contrivance designed to enlist the Russian population's support for the invasion. Nazi regimes tend to be controlled by ruthless dictators, are highly nationalistic and expansionist. I'm sure any objective person would recognise who exactly is practicing Nazism here. Demilitarising hasn't really worked out very well either - has it?

None of these objectives can be achieved though by controlling parts of Ukraine. It needed to be the whole thing. Zelensky and Co had to be gotten rid of and a Lukashenko installed. There lies another Putin disaster.

Come back GR because with Pyrpo talking about the Russians nuking London and New York - which would be the end of it all of course - and you how, 18 months in, it's all going exactly to plan I really can't see any difference.

[Pyrpolizer]

...i think Putin has made a mistake. Wheat, its export by sea is not as important to Ukraine, and farmers' yield because of the warring will also be less. Without this Agreement Russia will have to escalate patrols, and being occupied with having to enforce their blockade, they will become perfect targets for Ukraine's Navy drones.

I don’t think Putin made a mistake Warrior, and Russia does not need to escalate patrols. If the Grain deal is not fully implemented by the collective West, then Russia might as well go ahead and destroy ALL the remaining sea ports controlled by Ukraine so that grain can’t be shipped anywhere, hence no patrol needed. Problem solved!

Actually it was already done. Ships from Crimea fired tens of Kinzhal and Kalibr at Odessa and Mycolaiv port 2 days ago and were surprised to realize there was absolutely no Ukr air defense. So they continued for another day hitting all sorts of infrastructure, ammo depots, industrial areas etc.
Currently the ports are unusable, no ship can even reach them, let aside the fact that no insurance company would accept to insure any.

Ukrainians on the other hand have a lot of successful attacks using storm shadow missiles for which the Russians have not yet discovered an antidote. E.g. Yesterday the blew up a huge ammunition depot in East Crimea, probably the biggest the Russians currently have.

It amazes me how fast the Ukrs "received" -better say already had cluster bombs- and started using them near Artemovsk in the vicinity of Klichievka. Of course the Russians started using their own cluster bombs in other areas taking the Ukrs by surprise.

Btw I personally don't see the Ukrs suffering from any lack of ammunition. All I see is a lot of suicide attacks, whole brigades losing almost all their manpower and equipment, vanishing from the map, and then after a week or so getting reborn. I have no idea how they manage that...

[Pyrpolizer]

More details and map from Rybar
https://rybar.ru/piwigo/upload/2023/07/ ... dfc4c8.jpg
https://t.me/rybar/49866

Translation:
Chronicle of a special military operation
for July 19, 2023

For the second night in a row, the Russian Armed Forces launched a massive attack on the rear facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine throughout Ukraine. The targets, among other things, were the port infrastructure and warehouses in Odessa, as well as the Kanatovo air base in the Kirovograd region.

The enemy, in turn, attacked the Crimean peninsula. In the early morning, Ukrainian formations attacked an ammunition depot south of the airfield in the Kirov region. Local residents were quickly resettled. According to some reports, Storm Shadow or SCALP cruise missiles could have been used to strike.

Heavy fighting continues on the fronts. On the northern sector of the front, the Russian Armed Forces are confidently advancing, knocking out the enemy from strongholds near Svatovo and Kremennaya, as well as in the direction of Kupyansk. The situation near Bakhmut is stably difficult, the enemy is furiously counterattacking.

On the southern sector of the front, the situation is also tense. Enemy maneuver groups, supported by armored vehicles, are trying to push through the defenses of the RF Armed Forces, in some places this is achieved at the cost of significant losses. Western military equipment continues to burn in the steppes of the Zaporozhye region.

[Kikapu]

You must be referring to this video, LR!...........................................

You're being pedantic - and obfuscating. I posted a short video (less than a minute - not 2.5 hours) involving an incident where a Russian armoured column was caught out in the open, trying to cross a river and came under Ukrainian artillery fire..

What can I say, other than to say that, “the devil is always in the details” for me!

When the claim is made that 2 Russian Battalions are destroyed, I expect to see 200+ dead bodies in the vicinity of the destroyed equipment, that’s all.

As for the rest of your post, we are going in circles. It’s no point beating a dead horse! However, allow me to make one point on the expansion of NATO which you seem to put a lot of importance with the expansion with Sweden and Finland, and that is, there never be a ground war between NATO and Russia because NATO do not have the courage to have a ground war directly with Russia, hence the reason of the proxy war taking place in Ukraine between NATO and Russia, because NATO countries won’t be able to stand when the body bags of their loved ones return home in the thousands. The next alternative to a ground war, it will be Nuclear to which we will ALL lose. So, please tell me again what is the good news on adding Sweden and Finland to the NATO club?

[repulsewarrior]

...news.

[repulsewarrior]

...warnings that are geopolitical,



...upheavals (and starvation) in the Middle East and in Africa may be the result if prices of wheat double.

...a disaster for Ukrainian farmers as well, the scale of which will leave them doomed forever as things stand now.

...to "win" and of course for 'us' "austerity" to pay the bill, never mind the externalities of "their" calculations, the lives lost or the suffering.

Disdain for "Americans"? Disdain for "Russians", "Greeks" and "Turks", ''Kurds" and "Ukrainians"; they're all the same, to me.

[repulsewarrior]

...so, Putin will not attend the meetings in SA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgGm9XncfzQ

[Lordo]

Interesting news report last night accusing Russia of economic warfare when they attacked the grain stores in the ports.

You don't say, do they really mean there was no economic attack by anybody before hand?

Surely not.