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[Londonrake]

Lordo. This thread is "UKRAINE".

[Lordo]

Have you just realised? Too fuckin late.

[Londonrake]

Did you get the bit about the Lordo-blog virus? Spreading remorselessly across every facet of this forum? It's called being Narcissistic.

[Kikapu]

So, Ukraine is now openly admitting and gloating about attacking the Crimea Bridge whereas in the past, they would not admit to anything, even if they were responsible for it.

Well, this change with Ukraine is very easy to explained, because Ukraine is desperate to make any claim of success because they have had almost no success with their Spring/Summer offensive for the past 6 weeks as they have lost thousands of soldiers and hundreds of tanks and similar equipment, personnel carriers and aircraft.

However, the truth is, the bridge will be repaired and put back in service again as soon as possible, but there’s no bringing back the destructions Ukraine is suffering by the Russians. The bridge to Crimea is not the life line to the Russians in this war, but just a inconvenience for awhile. Crimea was serviced by Russia by ships for many years before the bridge was built and the ships will be used again until the bridge is repaired and beyond..

Apart from the fact it's been disabled, for a second time, which must at the very least, given the way Putin adopted the project, be "awkward" I'm not really reading anything into the bridge incident. Nevertheless, it's certainly an important strategic target.

Losses are a matter of ..................... what? Neither side tells the truth so can you trust any figures? I find some that have been banded about ridiculous though. Does anybody truly believe that in the 10 month struggle to take Bakhmut the Russians lost only 600? It was seriously posted in here.

Fast rewind.

When, way back, I posted a drone picture - more fool me - of a Russian armoured column that had been destroyed by Ukrainian artillery during an attempted river crossing, you denounced it as a fake. There were no bodies to be seen. That's the level of obduracy which prevails in this thread.

Yes, so far Ukraine hasn't made any significant progress with its offensive. Then again, did the Russians at the beginning of this year? We were certainly getting lots of "Here it comes!" posts last autumn.

Looking at the big picture though. Here we are, 500+ days into this war. Started in order to "De Nazify" and "De militarise" Ukraine. Not forgetting bringing to an end the relentless expansion of NATO. I would suggest wrt those objectives things are not really going too well for Vladimir Putin. Let's not get into how one of several private mercenary armies running around in Russia just started an abortive advance on Moscow.

Despite, as in GR's days, there always tends to be daily good news about how well the Russian army are doing.

You must be referring to this video, LR!



You have quoted me correctly when I said there were no bodies around but just destroyed equipment, but you did not quote yourself correctly. The claim as I remember at the time was that, the Ukrainian had destroyed 2 battalions of Russian troop during this attempted river crossing, which would mean over two hundred soldiers. Really, ALL two hundred soldiers were destroyed. I see some vehicles being disabled and for sure some died in them, but where are the rest of the hundreds of dead Russian soldiers?

It is a very short clip, and when you run through it, the text says “Hundreds of Russian troops are believed to have have been killed”, and then the last text states “if correct, it would be Russia’s biggest loss of life since the war began”. So, I read a lot of ambiguity in the text and not facts. I would think this video was made by supporters of Ukraine. So you see LR, just as you do not take everything at face value on this war, neither do I.

Just like you are happy to claim that the Russians loss at Bakhmout to be 600 killed to be fake numbers. Well, it all depends when the 600 got killed and that it may well be an accurate number of Russian soldiers getting killed in Bakhmout before the Wagner group took over from the Russian army, to which, Wagner claim that they lost about 20,000 fighters there and killed around 60,000 Ukrainian troops. Since the Wagner fighters are not considered to be part of the Russian army which you yourself believe that too, which you refer to them as “private mercenaries” the 600 number may well be correct if we split hairs. You can’t have it both ways, LR

Putin cannot stop the expansion of NATO as the case is with Finland and Sweden and you haven’t seen any war between those countries and Russia, because it means very little for Russia they becoming NATO members. Of course, NATO was very happy to make them members overnight just to stick it to Putin on brownie points, and yet where it would have really mattered to Putin, was for NATO to make Ukraine a member of NATO last week at their grand meeting where Zelensky was begging to become a member. Surely that would have put Putin in his place by having direct war between the self claimed glorious NATO and Russia instead of a chicken shit proxy war, who were very vocal that they would defend every inch of NATO’s territory. You know Zelensky would have pushed for Article 5, so why didn’t NATO go to direct war with a Russia to finish off Russia once and for all and thanking Zelensky along the way for making it happen? I hope this answers your never ending bringing up NATO’s expansion to Putin’s displeasure. Once again, NATO does the talk the talk, but not the walk the walk! Sign of weakness on the part of NATO, don’t you think, LR?

Russia is taking care of destroying the Ukrainian forces few hundred a day at a time to demilitarize the country of Nazis and alike. There is no time limit when they get the job fully finished. They are holding onto the areas they want to keep and defending it by destroying the attacking Ukrainian forces and limiting their own loses. When the time is right, the Russians will push deep into the Ukrainian forces to finish the job they set out to do. All NATO can do is look from the Western borders of Ukraine. This is not what Zelensky was promised by NATO, I’m sure, when he was persuaded not to sign a peace treaty with Russia early last year. Live and learn as the saying goes, except Ukraine as a country is already on life support, if not already dead. Well done NATO!

[Lordo]

What the Yanks have not calculated is the fact that ammo for the Ukrainians have to travel thousands of miles where as the Russian's are round the corner in comparison.

[repulsewarrior]

https://gcaptain.com/why-the-expiration ... a636abe87d

...i think Putin has made a mistake. Wheat, its export by sea is not as important to Ukraine, and farmers' yield because of the warring will also be less. Without this Agreement Russia will have to escalate patrols, and being occupied with having to enforce their blockade, they will become perfect targets for Ukraine's Navy drones.

[Robin Hood]

https://gcaptain.com/why-the-expiration-of-the-black-sea-grain-deal-matters/?subscriber=true&goal=0_f50174ef03-206ebf9ac8-170376050&mc_cid=206ebf9ac8&mc_eid=a636abe87d

...i think Putin has made a mistake. Wheat, its export by sea is not as important to Ukraine, and farmers' yield because of the warring will also be less. Without this Agreement Russia will have to escalate patrols, and being occupied with having to enforce their blockade, they will become perfect targets for Ukraine's Navy drones.

Just out of interest. It appears that whilst Russia has stuck to their end of the Grain deal ....... the ‘West’ had collectively blocked the second part. So once again the MSM leaves out the detail it does not like so that the impression is given that it is Russia that is the bad guy. To have a deal, both sides need to honour their side of the deal ...... Russia does .... the collective West doesn’t .......... and their MSM blames Russia when they pull the plug on the deal!

AP Obfuscates The Real Black Sea Grain Deal Numbers

Agreements that the United Nations and Turkey brokered with Ukraine and Russia to allow food and fertilizer to get from the warring nations to parts of the world where millions are going hungry have eased concerns over global food security. But they face increasing risks.
It then asserts:

The Black Sea Grain Initiative has allowed 32.8 million metric tons (36.2 million tons) of food to be exported from Ukraine since last August, more than half to developing countries, including those getting relief from the World Food Program.

Are half of the Ukrainian grain exports really going to 'developing countries'?

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/07/ap-obfuscates-the-real-grain-deal-numbers-.html

Just two days ago I (MoA) wrote about Grain Deal Shenanigans and summarized:

The grain deal had two parts. One was the access of ships to Ukrainian harbors. The other was the normal export of grain and fertilizer from Russia.

While Russia had facilitated the first part of the deal the 'West' had collectively blocked the second part.

The lengthy creation of exclusive payment channels that can be blocked and controlled by the 'West', as Guterres now offers, is not a solution that Russia will support.

When you see the next headline about 'Russia blocking Ukrainian exports to hungry people' keep the above in mind.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/07/grain-deal-shenanigans.html

[Kikapu]

...i think Putin has made a mistake. Wheat, its export by sea is not as important to Ukraine, and farmers' yield because of the warring will also be less. Without this Agreement Russia will have to escalate patrols, and being occupied with having to enforce their blockade, they will become perfect targets for Ukraine's Navy drones.

I don’t think Putin made a mistake Warrior, and Russia does not need to escalate patrols. If the Grain deal is not fully implemented by the collective West, then Russia might as well go ahead and destroy ALL the remaining sea ports controlled by Ukraine so that grain can’t be shipped anywhere, hence no patrol needed. Problem solved!

[Pyrpolizer]

Russia's counteroffensive started with 100,000 troops heading towards Kupiansk -final target Kharkiv.
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/sta ... 5984393216

[Lordo]

I have a feeling the Russians will take the whole coast and make Ukraine a landlocked country.