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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:14 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote: The article is from a News Letter service written by someone called Sullivan, expressing her own personal views, in the usual Western misinformation manner. Btw there is not much in the article about "rusted pipes/corruption".

Here are some examples:

I wrote an almost identical reply earlier, even down to the 'examples', and was about to paste it when I read yours! :wink:

If you look at just the bare facts the article is more or less accurate, but then the facts are embellished by the author who is obviously pro-Ukraine and the Western version of these events. Then she adds a few misconceptions .... as you have pointed out. It is then no different from any other pro-Western MSM view.

But like all these articles they can be defined not by what they say but what the author choses to leave out. They do it every time!

I don't see where 'rusty pipes' come into this as an event that started this war? I recall the Ukrainians didn't pay the bill and owed Russia millios ...... so they cut them off. So the Ukrainians then stole the gas they wanted from the gas lines to Europe. That was when the trouble started I think? But it was resolved and Ukraine still got a good deal on the price.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:08 pm



...news.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:09 pm



...also news.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:04 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote: The article is from a News Letter service written by someone called Sullivan, expressing her own personal views, in the usual Western misinformation manner. Btw there is not much in the article about "rusted pipes/corruption".

Here are some examples:

I wrote an almost identical reply earlier, even down to the 'examples', and was about to paste it when I read yours! :wink:

If you look at just the bare facts the article is more or less accurate, but then the facts are embellished by the author who is obviously pro-Ukraine and the Western version of these events. Then she adds a few misconceptions .... as you have pointed out. It is then no different from any other pro-Western MSM view.

But like all these articles they can be defined not by what they say but what the author choses to leave out. They do it every time!

I don't see where 'rusty pipes' come into this as an event that started this war? I recall the Ukrainians didn't pay the bill and owed Russia millios ...... so they cut them off. So the Ukrainians then stole the gas they wanted from the gas lines to Europe. That was when the trouble started I think? But it was resolved and Ukraine still got a good deal on the price.


...all this before Zelenskyy, i note.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:37 pm

Lordo wrote:I would make it 110%. That will really annoy him.



Yeah I did notice he targets you specifically, trying to prove whatever he thinks of you, so 110% is understandable. Imagine what would happen if I attacked him for that, and rightly so, because imo he is totally wrong.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:41 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote: The article is from a News Letter service written by someone called Sullivan, expressing her own personal views, in the usual Western misinformation manner. Btw there is not much in the article about "rusted pipes/corruption".

Here are some examples:

I wrote an almost identical reply earlier, even down to the 'examples', and was about to paste it when I read yours! :wink:

If you look at just the bare facts the article is more or less accurate, but then the facts are embellished by the author who is obviously pro-Ukraine and the Western version of these events. Then she adds a few misconceptions .... as you have pointed out. It is then no different from any other pro-Western MSM view.

But like all these articles they can be defined not by what they say but what the author choses to leave out. They do it every time!

I don't see where 'rusty pipes' come into this as an event that started this war? I recall the Ukrainians didn't pay the bill and owed Russia millios ...... so they cut them off. So the Ukrainians then stole the gas they wanted from the gas lines to Europe. That was when the trouble started I think? But it was resolved and Ukraine still got a good deal on the price.


Oh you could have saved me a lot of time... :wink:
Regardless nice "add ons" from your side, very well explained.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:53 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:

...news.


Patrick Lancaster is a good war reporter, usually reporting from the Russian front line. I rarely watch him because he has this bad habit doing his interviews in Russian without providing any translation. So much of what he does gets wasted...
Thanks for bringing this up, I will watch it, hoping for the best. :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:23 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Lordo wrote:I would make it 110%. That will really annoy him.



Yeah I did notice he targets you specifically, trying to prove whatever he thinks of you, so 110% is understandable. Imagine what would happen if I attacked him for that, and rightly so, because imo he is totally wrong.
Maybe this? -->>

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There is a reason why he does that. He does not like the way I criticise his Swine Party. Worst still he does not understand anything I post and thinks I am attacking his country. When in fact it is not just his country, it is my country too. Mind you he did allude to the fact that he detests me and will destroy me. What he will eventually relaise the hard way is that I am not that easy to destroy. In fact what he does makes me more determined. Not that I needed any help to up my determination. I got got enough determination to last me a life time. And I even have some spare I lent to my sprogs. They are all proper little Lordos, well they actually are not so little any more but they are still my babies.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:45 am

I thought I would preempt Paphitis and say that the new attack on the Crimea Bridge was done by the Russians, just as they blew up the Nord Stream 2, the Damn and almost the Nuclear power station! :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:20 am

repulsewarrior wrote: .........all this before Zelenskyy, i note.


You 'note' incorrectly! The article covered selected events from the early 90's right up to 24th Feb 2022. So it INCLUDES Zelenskey's presidency! :roll:
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