Pyrpolizer wrote:Paphitis wrote:
You don't deserve a country. You can just accept Turkey's terms and become a Turk yourself. You do not deserve freedom.
Oh. The kid shivering at the parades and winning wars playing video games, is now dictating what I deserve! Get lost mannoui.
Ukraine is a country of 44 million people, and its land size is massive.
There will be Ukrainians left. All 44 million of them. If there are not, then Russia has committed genocide and that leaves the West with no other option but to have a direct conflict with Rissia and a Nuclear War.
You mean just like what happened to the Palestinians? There won't be a Nuclear war.
Don't kid yourself taht the West can just sit and watch 44 million people being killed. If Russia does anything of that sort then the chances of Nuclear holocaust are very high.
I didn't say they will kill 44 million you fool. I said I suspect they will ethnically cleanse them and replace them with Russian settlers. Ethnic cleansing happens slowly after the war by forcing a big portion of the natives to leave. The Russians new demand for safe corridors for the civilians towards Belarus or Russia is an indication. I may be wrong on my suspicion.
The Ukrainian people will fight and they will fight. The bad thing here for Russia now is that they have entered into a war that will bog them down for many years and they still will not be able to control the country and crush the resitence. Then, the violence will spill into their homeland as well, with IRA style terrorism and sanctions.
Daylight dreaming...
No just like what happened in Afghanistan.
No matter how much you try, for as long as the enemy is resolved to fight, they are undefeatable. Many examples...
The Americans occupied Afghanistan for nearly 20 years and yet the Taliban were still around in the regional areas waiting and waiting. Then the day arrives when they leave. In they come to Kabul within 72 hours.
Likewise, this is a war, Russia has lost. Not only that, but they have fortified NATO and given it more of a reason to exist.
It's impossible to rule 44 million people hostile to you. It will never happen. Russia is fighting a losing battle. And it's put itself on the back foot, with sanctions and a very reguvenated NATO which has now justified its existence for the next 20 years.
Russia also invaded Afghanistan and lost to Mujahideen Militias and eventually had to withdraw.
Ukraine will be another Afghanistan but on steriods. Ukraine does actually have a competent military to boot, that is far better armed and their soldiers are better trained than any Taliban or Mujahideen. And they are a big country in population and size. To the extent where it is impossible for Russia to occupy.
Much smaller countries like Greece, resisted the NAZIs in WW2 against all odds and against a vastly superior force. And yet, Greece prevailed. Sure, that was largely due to the assistance of Greece's allies, but greece contributed, had guerillas in the mountains who were blowing up bridges and NAZI convoys whenever and whereever they could.
Ukraine, has lots to fight for. the future of their country is at stake. If they give up, they lose. If they don't, they will defeat Russia.