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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:16 pm

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Kikapu wrote:Reading the above garbage by Paphitis feels like I’m sitting on a small chair at a small table made for kids at kindergarten school ffs. :roll:

When this war is over and Russia accomplishes all of their objectives in Ukraine, I fear you and LR won’t be able to handle it and will end up the male version of Thelma & Louise’s ending scene! :wink:

LR and more so Paphitis live in another World! :roll:

Since the start of the violence in Ukraine in 2014 the Kyiv regime had lied. When the Minsk agreement established the demarcation line between Kyiv forces and the DPR resistance was established in 2015, Kyiv forces were suffering heavy losses. Kyiv then spent 6-7 years digging a defense line from the Black Sea coast to the Russian border to the East of Luhansk. Merkel confirmed that Kyiv took this chance to re-arm thanks to the US.

The following article is interesting because the secretary of the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov is now saying Kyiv is changing tactics and is going to do what DPR forces have been doing since 2015 and the Russians since Feb/Mar 2022 in Ukraine! They apparently are now going to use the DPR/Russian technique to ‘demilitarise’ Russia! Big problem is Kyiv has neither the forces or weapons to do this …… and because they no longer have defense lines to fall back on, especially true in Backhmut!

The Kyiv Spring Counter offensive has failed because they have fallen for the trap! As Paphitis keeps shooting his mouth off all about the Ukies re-taking Backmut, he fails to realize that there is NOTHING there it is a landscape of destruction! The Russian forces when they see them coming, just fall back to their first line of defense ……… and the Russian artillery then blows the Ukies ‘chasing’ them, to pieces! Russia launches mines behind them, they are trapped, lose most of their armor and vehicles and thousands die for very few Russian casualties! All because of the lies these poor patriotic Ukrainian troops get fed by Zelenskey. They don’t stand a hope in Hells chance of defeating the Russian forces ……….. no matter how valiant their efforts.

But if people like LR and Paphitis fall for the same lies when they have the far more accurate and probable scenario at their fingertips ……… then it is no wonder the Ukrainian’s are dying in such large numbers ? Those left THINK they are winning because Zelenskey says so, Reality looks a lot different.

Ukraine Changes War Tactic To One That Will Cause It More Losses

After a month of failed attempts to reach the Russian defense lines the Ukrainian side is stuck. Its forces are unable to even cross the security zone in front of the Russian lines. The long promoted counter-offensive, launched to pressure from Washington and NATO, has undoubtedly failed. It has caused enormous losses with no substantial gains and the Ukrainian army is now changing its tactic.

Yesterday the secretary of the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov, tweeted in English and Russian:
At this stage of active hostilities, Ukraine’s Defense Forces are fulfilling the number one task – the maximum destruction of manpower, equipment, fuel depots, military vehicles, command posts, artillery and air defense forces of the russian army. The last few days have been particularly fruitful. Now the war of destruction is equal to the war of kilometers. More destroyed means more liberated. The more effective the former, the more the latter. We are acting calmly, wisely, step by step.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/07/ukraine-changes-wartactic-to-one-that-will-cause-it-more-losses.html


Paphitis is constantly on a horse parading for imaginary Nato victories, and LR is constantly complaining about his soup been too hot or too cold. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:33 pm

Andrei Martyanov the specialist in raising the blood pressure of the a.m. duo of Uranians ( notice the spelling)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:55 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Reading the above garbage by Paphitis feels like I’m sitting on a small chair at a small table made for kids at kindergarten school ffs. :roll:

When this war is over and Russia accomplishes all of their objectives in Ukraine, I fear you and LR won’t be able to handle it and will end up the male version of Thelma & Louise’s ending scene! :wink:

LR and more so Paphitis live in another World! :roll:

Since the start of the violence in Ukraine in 2014 the Kyiv regime had lied. When the Minsk agreement established the demarcation line between Kyiv forces and the DPR resistance was established in 2015, Kyiv forces were suffering heavy losses. Kyiv then spent 6-7 years digging a defense line from the Black Sea coast to the Russian border to the East of Luhansk. Merkel confirmed that Kyiv took this chance to re-arm thanks to the US.

The following article is interesting because the secretary of the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov is now saying Kyiv is changing tactics and is going to do what DPR forces have been doing since 2015 and the Russians since Feb/Mar 2022 in Ukraine! They apparently are now going to use the DPR/Russian technique to ‘demilitarise’ Russia! Big problem is Kyiv has neither the forces or weapons to do this …… and because they no longer have defense lines to fall back on, especially true in Backhmut!

The Kyiv Spring Counter offensive has failed because they have fallen for the trap! As Paphitis keeps shooting his mouth off all about the Ukies re-taking Backmut, he fails to realize that there is NOTHING there it is a landscape of destruction! The Russian forces when they see them coming, just fall back to their first line of defense ……… and the Russian artillery then blows the Ukies ‘chasing’ them, to pieces! Russia launches mines behind them, they are trapped, lose most of their armor and vehicles and thousands die for very few Russian casualties! All because of the lies these poor patriotic Ukrainian troops get fed by Zelenskey. They don’t stand a hope in Hells chance of defeating the Russian forces ……….. no matter how valiant their efforts.

But if people like LR and Paphitis fall for the same lies when they have the far more accurate and probable scenario at their fingertips ……… then it is no wonder the Ukrainian’s are dying in such large numbers ? Those left THINK they are winning because Zelenskey says so, Reality looks a lot different.

Ukraine Changes War Tactic To One That Will Cause It More Losses

After a month of failed attempts to reach the Russian defense lines the Ukrainian side is stuck. Its forces are unable to even cross the security zone in front of the Russian lines. The long promoted counter-offensive, launched to pressure from Washington and NATO, has undoubtedly failed. It has caused enormous losses with no substantial gains and the Ukrainian army is now changing its tactic.

Yesterday the secretary of the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov, tweeted in English and Russian:
At this stage of active hostilities, Ukraine’s Defense Forces are fulfilling the number one task – the maximum destruction of manpower, equipment, fuel depots, military vehicles, command posts, artillery and air defense forces of the russian army. The last few days have been particularly fruitful. Now the war of destruction is equal to the war of kilometers. More destroyed means more liberated. The more effective the former, the more the latter. We are acting calmly, wisely, step by step.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/07/ukraine-changes-wartactic-to-one-that-will-cause-it-more-losses.html


Blah, blah, blah.

"Moonofalabama" is a German guy called Herman who lives in a block of Hamburg flats. He sits in front of his server every day doing exactly what you do, but whilst you're happy to slag off your country and culture gratis (all, as usual, simmering grudge based - get over it FFS) he, like the redoubtable Clayton Morris (actually a real estate man, wanted for fraud in the US) is savvy enough to make a respectable living out of "contributions".

Do get a life. :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:06 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Did you know that the mines the Russians are using to take out Ukraine's armour, have detonators that disable themselves within a few days/weeks thus reducing the chances of them killing civilians.


Although, they've still managed to murder 9000 or so. The frequent BS you morons throw up, that the Russians are conducting this war on a "humanitarian" basis and shouldn't be "demonised" is a reflection of your devotion to the cause of your hand-wringing self-hatred. They've thrown thousands of missiles and bombs at Ukrainian cities with gay abandon for months. And - of course - you think that's entirely justified. Can't make an omelette without................. sort of thing. From the comfort and safety of your Souni keyboard of course.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:53 pm

Kikapu wrote:When this war is over and Russia accomplishes all of their objectives in Ukraine, I fear you and LR won’t be able to handle it and will end up the male version of Thelma & Louise’s ending scene! :wink:


From earlier posts it seems we can't agree on Russia's (Come on, it's Vladimir Putin's) objectives. :?

At the outset Putin's announced objectives were the demilitarization/denazification of Ukraine and “liberation” of the territories of Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts. Plus, an end to the expansion of NATO. They invaded Ukraine from 7 different directions on 24th Feb 2022. The main thrusts being towards Kyiv and Kharkiv. Those efforts were repelled with significant losses by stronger than expected Ukrainian resistance. It then reverted to the annexing of the oblasts, effectively putting an end to the "denatizify" and "Demilitarize" objectives.

In the light of the past 500 days events do you truly believe that the Russians will "accomplish all of their objectives in Ukraine"? :?

Paphitis and I obviously share the same view on Russia's invasion (yes, it's an invasion) of Ukraine and its consequences. That's pretty much as far as it goes. Your - and others - occasional sneering comments inferring that we are in some way "engaged" couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, yourself, Pyrpro and, now-and-then Mr Hood (not including Lordo - who's surely an embarrassing idiot, even to team Russia) seem much more joined at the hip. "I watched your two and a half hour video in it's entirety. It was very interesting". You know, that sort of stuff. :wink:

I've no idea what happened in that film. Haven't watched it. :?

How's the prevention of NATO's expansion working out? Pretty much like the rest of Putin's objectives it seems.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:00 pm

What?
No comment about Yankistan sending over cluster bombs from my cocky cockney friend?

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:12 am



...informative and balanced. Indeed, in warring they are a very useful weapon and horrible. I would not enjoy their threat while manning the trenches for example, and an airport runway is easily closed with their use.

...in effect the counter-attack may truly begin upon their arrival.

...and if the ''Russians'' have used their stock, ammunition having become a big issue, do they have many left?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:39 am

Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:When this war is over and Russia accomplishes all of their objectives in Ukraine, I fear you and LR won’t be able to handle it and will end up the male version of Thelma & Louise’s ending scene! :wink:


From earlier posts it seems we can't agree on Russia's (Come on, it's Vladimir Putin's) objectives. :?

At the outset Putin's announced objectives were the demilitarization/denazification of Ukraine and “liberation” of the territories of Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts. Plus, an end to the expansion of NATO. They invaded Ukraine from 7 different directions on 24th Feb 2022. The main thrusts being towards Kyiv and Kharkiv. Those efforts were repelled with significant losses by stronger than expected Ukrainian resistance. It then reverted to the annexing of the oblasts, effectively putting an end to the "denatizify" and "Demilitarize" objectives.

In the light of the past 500 days events do you truly believe that the Russians will "accomplish all of their objectives in Ukraine"? :?

Paphitis and I obviously share the same view on Russia's invasion (yes, it's an invasion) of Ukraine and its consequences. That's pretty much as far as it goes. Your - and others - occasional sneering comments inferring that we are in some way "engaged" couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, yourself, Pyrpro and, now-and-then Mr Hood (not including Lordo - who's surely an embarrassing idiot, even to team Russia) seem much more joined at the hip. "I watched your two and a half hour video in it's entirety. It was very interesting". You know, that sort of stuff. :wink:

I've no idea what happened in that film. Haven't watched it. :?

How's the prevention of NATO's expansion working out? Pretty much like the rest of Putin's objectives it seems.


No LR, I am not going to keep repeating the same old same old to you. You can read this post here again (or for the first time perhaps) to address your same old same old mantra regarding your understanding of Russia’s failure to take the whole of Ukraine.. cyprus47975-11090.html

Not only Russia is accomplishing it’s objectives in Ukraine in the last 500 days, but it has done more by default. It has taken on NATO at the invitation by NATO and has shown it can withstand it. It seems it is NATO who are in shock that Russia is still standing. Let’s be clear, the war in Ukraine is between NATO and Russia and NATO hasn’t been able to make Russia budge at all from their position in Ukraine in the last one year.

I have told you that I am a News Junkie and read and watch what are newsworthy and interesting. What do you have against that. Perhaps you too should have watched the video Pyro posted to help you understand what is going on in Ukraine other that the Western propaganda you find yourself soaked in.

Yes, it is an invasion by Russia in Ukraine. Who has said anything differently?

You too have defeated your own argument LR with contradictions. On the one hand you say this is Putin’s war/objectives and on the other hand yo label some on here as being “Team Russia“. In layman's terms, you are a very confused individual! The only thing you are not confused about, is that you are just Anti Russia. I’m sure it comes from the time of your military services. Once brainwashed, always brainwashed, which explains a lot about your “Black & White” views of things regarding the war in Ukraine. In layman’s terms again, it make you “Colour Blind”, and I don’t mean about race either.

Not all NATO expansions are equal for Russia. Ukraine and one or two other countries would be a very special case for Russia and NATO too, don’t you think?

Oh, you will love the ending of Thelma & Louise. It is very deliberate, decisive and very certain of it’s outcome, just like Russia’s deliberate decisive outcome in Ukraine.

One other thing LR. Do not confuse the above statements to mean that I support Russia and the war in Ukraine. No, I do not.

What I do not support either is the deliberate and criminal actions of injustices by the Collective West against Russia, where risking WWIII that can end the world as we know it.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:26 am

Well said Kikapu ...... i'll go along with that. LR's problem is that he has a very narrow field on vision when it comes to Russia! :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:41 pm

I will add one more point to what Kiks said. Cocky Gobby Cockney's mentality is if you do not support my view you must be supporting the other side. This is exactly what Bush Junior said too, "either you are with us or against us". It is just about a fascistic view as it is possible.

For instance I posted a news story about some Polish soldiers being killed in the front line and he accused me of gloating about the killing of Polish soldiers. When in fact the whole point of the post was to show that there are soldier in the front line from Nato members. Whether they are mercenaries or not.

I have long come to the conclusion that he is not worth interacting with as he has nothing to contribute to the debate. He just snipes at the person posting.
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