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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby CrookedRiverGuy » Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:08 pm

Funny to see how important it has become to discredit Prigozhin for everything. For sure it didn't take Alex Christoforou long to come up with an explanation:

The Ruzzian media has been publishing news really well, with a lot of care and restraint. It all comes down to Prigozhin having a meltdown and a beef with Sjojgu and Asimov.
Of course it is all based on misinformation from the collective west.

Time will be the judge, Alex Putlerlicker!


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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:32 pm

Isn't it funny the whole group of IQ<0 headed by the famous 292038 ® showed up parading simultaneously?
Well hear this oinking piglets: Progozhin and the Wagners are now heading back to their fighting positions in Ukraine. 8)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:38 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:The silence is deafening.

Two murdering lunatics go head-to-head. Hopefully, leading to the death of one. The survivor's reputation trashed, regardless.

In it perhaps a glimmer for the Russian people regarding the reality of Putin's Ukrainian war. Rather than the usual state media diet of repelling a Nazi Ukrainian/NATO invasion of the blessed Homeland.

Judging by the delay. it seems even the likes of the St Petersburgh I.R.A. can't come up with one of its usual "false flag" fantasies to cover these events, to be promulgated by the ever faithful.

Don't give up hope though. I'm sure there are lots of meetings going on and ultimately they will think of something.


They are going to frame it as being a coup attempt by the collective west and Merika especially. Then they will threaten the world with Nuclear annihilation which the west will just continue to ignore them.

This is the standard Putlar playbook script. Putlar is just becomming an internet meme these days. :lol:


Be careful not to fall into the Russian False Flag Bear Trap on the supposedly coup attempt in Russia. :wink:

I think it is a carefully choreography action by the Russians for Ukraine to commit it’s forces to attack the Russians on all fronts in smelling blood and victory in thinking Russia is falling apart, so to decimate the remaining Ukrainians forces before Russia goes on the offensive to finish it’s goals in Ukraine. :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:10 pm

Peskov on Lukashenko's negotiations with Prigozhin:
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/52187
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:27 pm

I suspect this has to do with elections; in effect Putin, to put someone in Putin's place, will make this man a Hero.

...you will note that the beef is about the military's leadership, not Putin himself; in fact the claim is that Putin is deliberately misinformed by these Generals.

"Treason" will be turned on its head; Prigozhin will head the Army, Wagner will go back to making a wack of money elsewhere.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:01 am

Kikapu wrote:Be careful not to fall into the Russian False Flag Bear Trap on the supposedly coup attempt in Russia. :wink:

I think it is a carefully choreography action by the Russians for Ukraine to commit it’s forces to attack the Russians on all fronts in smelling blood and victory in thinking Russia is falling apart, so to decimate the remaining Ukrainians forces before Russia goes on the offensive to finish it’s goals in Ukraine. :wink:


Do you honestly believe that? :? I doubt it.

It's a scenario which comes across as a desperate attempt at damage limitation. Putin looks the weaker. Historically, tending to be ultimately fatal for Russian leaders (Gorbachev/Yeltsin). The price being paid for having Prigozhin and Kadyrov running around with private armies at their disposal. Reducing the politically awkward need for more large-scale call ups.

I suspect it's more the case that the Ukrainians are watching all of this hardly believing their luck.

We already had the blood curdling "Russian offensive" warnings at the end of 2022. It was barely noticeable. In reality, the likelihood they're going to make anything in the way of significant progress was buried long ago, in their aborted approach to Kyiv. Barring a breakthrough in current events It seems to be descending into a war of attrition. What other viable option does Putin have?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:03 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:Isn't it funny the whole group of IQ<0 headed by the famous 292038 ® showed up parading simultaneously?
Well hear this oinking piglets: Progozhin and the Wagners are now heading back to their fighting positions in Ukraine. 8)


That's a very typical response from you. Contemptuous, juvenile, bully-boy insults. :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:18 am

Given his apparent popularity - he seems to be a darling of what have become the significantly powerful Nationalist bloggers in Russia - I doubt Prigozhin will be quietly gotten rid of, or arrested for "tax evasion".

Nevertheless, If I were the man I'd be wary of getting too close to any upper story Belarusian windows, treat all doorknobs with respectful suspicion and be sure to thoroughly inspect my change of underwear before dressing. Not to mention, always make your own cup of tea. :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:25 pm



Wagner, a much bigger picture; Ukraine for ''Russia'' in that regard seems not so important.

...and now?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jun 26, 2023 7:51 am

Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Be careful not to fall into the Russian False Flag Bear Trap on the supposedly coup attempt in Russia. :wink:

I think it is a carefully choreography action by the Russians for Ukraine to commit it’s forces to attack the Russians on all fronts in smelling blood and victory in thinking Russia is falling apart, so to decimate the remaining Ukrainians forces before Russia goes on the offensive to finish it’s goals in Ukraine. :wink:


Do you honestly believe that? :? I doubt it.

It's a scenario which comes across as a desperate attempt at damage limitation. Putin looks the weaker. Historically, tending to be ultimately fatal for Russian leaders (Gorbachev/Yeltsin). The price being paid for having Prigozhin and Kadyrov running around with private armies at their disposal. Reducing the politically awkward need for more large-scale call ups.

I suspect it's more the case that the Ukrainians are watching all of this hardly believing their luck.

We already had the blood curdling "Russian offensive" warnings at the end of 2022. It was barely noticeable. In reality, the likelihood they're going to make anything in the way of significant progress was buried long ago, in their aborted approach to Kyiv. Barring a breakthrough in current events It seems to be descending into a war of attrition. What other viable option does Putin have?


LR, after 16 months of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, it seems you really do not understand what this war is really about and what the objectives are/were for Russia from the beginning, which is very evident from your constant repeated supposedly failures of the Russian military’s objectives in this conflict, because you only see things as Black & White, therefore, it’s no point discussing them with you again and again on what you cannot see.

I was busy over the weekend so I did not have much time for the news. Is the so called coup still continuing with the destruction of mother Russia into little bits yet? :lol:

Ukraine celebrates anything in the slightest as being very significant, including in taking over destroyed and abandoned few sheds from the Russians during this so called “Spring offensive”. :roll:
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