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[Paphitis]

Australia has faced this choice for a long time and voted with its own free will, hands and feet that Australia will ALWAYS be aligned to the UK, USA, New Zealand, and Canada first and foremost and they have told Chy-na to go F2ck itself.

Australia will ALWAYS choose the UK, US, Canada and New Zealand and its by no mistake that 4 of these countries actually share a common Head of State.

Not only this but Australia will ALWAYS choose to be aligned with other countries like France who are always welcomed in Australia. The cancellation of the Australian and French sub deal was never personal or an attack on France - it was just a sound military decision based on what Australia deems to better meet its strategic goals.

But Australia doesn't stop there. Australia is in cahoots and in alliance with ALL members of NATO, including Greece, and that will never change.

That is our decision. Blood is always thicker than water and we are not interested in Chy-nese money or any energy from Chy-na or Russia. we want nothing to do with these Orwellian tinpot criminals and abusers of International Law.

Basically, US, UK, Canada, New Zealand, France and NATO have the red carpet. Russia and Chy-na can f2ck themselves and jam it!

And finally, my posts were indicative of my joy that Australia will be acquiring Nuclear Submarines. This AUKUS deal is GOOD for Australia, GOOD for the Australian Defence Force and extremely advantageous as well. Australia will be able to deploy its submarine fleet and keep them "on station" fullfilling their missions for a very long time without the need to surface or go to port to refuel. The only limiting factor is crew health and well being, and food.

So there is no doubt these submarines make Australia much stronger and better able to respond to any crisis accross the globe.

The other great thing is that Australia will be buyilding its own next generation Nuclear Submarines. That means jobs and a developing nuclear industry, and capability. And also, the fact that the UK and USA will be operating the very same submarines in their own fleets is just another advantage. It ticks all the boxes. The entire decsion just makes perfect sense, is logical and extremely sensible. I think all of Australia was happy when AUKUS was officially announced. I never heard any complaints.

the only complaints come from the odd left wing Greenies who don't want Nuclear Ships in Australian Waters because they can be potentially amaging to the environment if thgere is a Nuclear Accident. But ironically, Nuclear Powered ships are also the most environmentally friendly ships on our oceans because they don't burn fossil fuels. Yoiu do have Nuclear Fuel Rods though that will eventually need to be disposed of. But Australia also has a very vast desert outback and can dispose of hem very safely in underground cement filled bunkers, away from humans, water sources and food supplies.

But that wpn't stop our Greenies who will try to attach themselves from their kayaks as these Submarines come into port.

[Paphitis]

I mean get a grip of yourselves bitches!

Why the hell wouldn't Australia enter into an AUKUS Deal for Nuclear Submarines and partnering up with the UK and USA? Not to do so would be insane.

Australia was never forced into anything. Australia's alliance with US, UK and the other 5 eye partners has never been stronger. It's alliance with the EU and NATO has never been stronger. And our relations with France are back to normal because both countries (Aus and France) need each other.

No submarine deal will ever get between Australia and France. Sure there was a bit of huff and puff between Australia and France for a few months but as soon as Macron met with Australia's PM at G20, things were quickly worked out and both countries were quickly back to normality. In the end, France I think wanted to express interest and join AUKUS as well, and I have no issue at all if they did. In fact. I would welcome that.

There is no difference at all between France and US, UK, Canada or NZ as far as I am concerned and I am pretty sure AUS Gov feels the same way.

No gripes at all with France. In fact, France is just too great as far as Australia is concerned and I believe the French feel the same way about Australia.

But in the end, Australia knows where it BELONGS. It knows who its friends are and it knows who to stay away from. Australia will always be connecxted to its 5 eye partners, with the EU, and NATO. End of. get over it. get over yoyrselves but no way in hell will it be any different and no way in hell will our relations with Ruzzia be normalised or that Australia will stay out of any conflictr if Chy-na moves on Taiwan or any other of our allies in Asia, in particular, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan or South Korea.

And that's why we want Nuclear Subs and why they are of utmost importance to Australia.

And for Australia, France is just as important and just as good of an ally as UK and US are. We love France and that will never change. And we will help France in their hour of need and expect France to do the same in return. No submarine deal or any amount of money will change that.

[Paphitis]

Noticed how Chy-na isn't really helping Ruzzia bitches?

Is it because they are really angry with pootin and think Pootin's is an embarrassment and failure who has been the biggest f2ck up in recent history?

Do they think Pootin is the bitch that has resulted in a stronger NATO, an AUKUS and defence expenditures increasing globally to prepare or be a deterrance to chy-na following in similar footsteps?

At this point bitches, we are very grateful to Pootin for being the bitch that has caused the total destruction of the Ruzzian Military strength and for making Chy-na understand that the west is ready to make Chy-na its bitch as well, when ever they feel ready for an even bigger cuccumber.

Thank you Pootin, the bitch whore of the 22nd century. We may never see a bigger Poutana in our lifetimes. It's a once in a lifetime event to have such a massive bitch to scoff at, bitches. Bitch. of Bitches, the other bitches saliute you while the rest spit on you.

[Robin Hood]

Is there a psychiatrist on the forum?

[Paphitis]

Is there a psychiatrist on the forum?

Bitches will be bitches! I can't help iot that you have embarrassed yourself by being so stupid to support illegal invasion and war crimes of a free and independent sovereign state and member of the UN Council.

Yes you do need that Psychiatrist bitch. You do need a lot of help, bitch.

Not my fault your assess are getting handed to you by the Ukrainians.

It's called justice, bitch.

[Paphitis]

BTW Bitches, how is the war going. Any news from the Ukrainian Front Lines?

Has Bakhmut fallen yet bitches? I know, I know. I have been asking the same question for the last 7 months. It's just that the fall of Bakhmut was imminently going to fall within a week for 7 months now. And the 7 day Special Military operation has been for 440 days and Ruzzia has less land than it did back in April. Go figure, butches!

Surely Bakhmut must fall soon? Did the Ukrainians liberate parts of Bakhmut recently in the last 48 hours. Oh poor bitches.

Nevermind bitches! Perastika!

[Lordo]

Is there a psychiatrist on the forum?

I afraid not even a psychiatrist can help this asshole.

[Robin Hood]

A drone attack on the Kremlin ...... to kill Putin! Zelenskey says it was nothing to do with him ...... well he would, wouldn't he?

I see a Russian reprisal coming with their drone? Now what is it called? Oh yeah ...... KHINZHAL!

The Russians showed Zelenskey a few days ago they could get to him even in a bunker 400ft underground. ( Oh. by the way, Redacted are still on the story but details are difficult to get from Kyiv at the moment! )

[Pyrpolizer]

Funny thing, Alpha TV in Cyprus, (like all MSM in Cyprus who just copy-paste whatever the Western MSM say) showed a Ukrainian official claiming the Russians did it.

[Londonrake]

If I held grudges .... I would not be ‘talking‘ to you! If you want examples of holding a grudge, I suggest you read your own posts!

Really? Excuse me a moment

That's better.

Now.

We both know only too well about your capacity for holding grudges. I've tried to stay away from all this and keep things civilised. Unsuccessfully - sadly. We seem to be moving inexorably in the direction of the distinctly "uncivilised"

An expressed opinion is fine when it has some credibility, which is usually attained by referring to facts to support it. Among just the ‘like minded’ .......... any dialogue would soon die ..... as there would be no dissent among ‘like minds’ only enhancement to what they knew to be fact!

Is that not the way this thread has been headed for some time? Towards a situation where there would be just a few (not that there have ever been many) with similar views confined to discussing details? Or, highlighting new aspects? You've said yourself that it's in "terminal decline". I disagree. Just my opinion of course.

That's a change from your earlier position though. When you've stated, on several occasions, that such-and-such was just "opinion," whereas you stick to facts. Now it seems opinion is OK, as long as it's "credible". Who decides on that though? It largely being an objective concept.

You mean ‘dismissed’ as you do? In my ‘real world’ the rules I followed were the fundamental rules of physics. Questioning those is something you don’t do. Laws like ....... Newton’s Laws of Motion, Ohm's Law, Bernoulli's Principle, Archimedes Principle, Coulomb’s Law, Pascal’s Law, , Boyles's Law etc. There is something else you cannot change and they are the facts! You can eliminate the effects of the facts by leaving them out of the equation ........ but the facts are still there no matter what you say or do. I still follow those priciple'sand use facts as the basis for my views.

Is "waffle" contagious? The only time I've known you to refer to such giants of physics is in your insistence that Newton's Law proved that the collapse of WTC7 on 9/11 was down to strategically placed explosive charges. Which leads inexorably to the conclusion that 3000 US citizens were deliberately slaughtered in lower Manhattan by their own government in a nefarious plot to provide justification for the Iraq war. Which not only flies in the face of what half the planet witnessed - live - but also......................... I'll stick my neck out here..................... I suggest most would find a totally bonkers conspiracy theory. Newton's Law or not.

This is where this sort of rhetoric goes so badly wrong ..........

There's no shortage of such sites - recently Redacted - and the thing absolutely all of them have in common is they're stuffed to the gunwales' with anti-western articles and nothing else.

That is your opinion because you are ‘stuffedt to the gunwales’ with anti Russian propaganda articles that print only half the story by eliminating inconvenient facts!

Do you have any examples of the "anti-Russian propaganda articles" that I'm apparently stuffed with?

Perhaps I was a little unfair (euphemism for wrong ). Redacted covers a lot of news stories. Just been watching the coverage of what's going on in Haiti actually. I'll confine myself to the one you dramatically highlighted. There remains no evidence, from any source, outside of the Russian Defence Ministry, repeated by Redacted, that the bunker event occurred. That, after a whole month. Come on, hundreds of high level and NATO people killed and not a whisper? Please. Morris himself says in his narrative that NATO admitted the attack. I can't find any such admission. He also said it was the very first time the almighty, omnipotent Kinzhal missile was used. No, it wasn't! They've used them several times since the invasion(and in Syria) but sparingly, due to expense and availability. In essence, demonstrating their "Wunderwaffe". The whole story stinks. I'm receptive to any substantial, independent proof you can come up with that confirms the veracity of it though.

As I previously advised you ....... these independent platforms you dislike so much, most often just put back into the story ...... all those FACTs your sources like to leave out or play down as being Russian propaganda! Put the facts back in and you get a different picture. But you don’t like that picture, so you attack the sources and those members that reference them because all you can do to uphold your opinion is to ignore the facts, also referred to as being in denial.

Dislike? Not at all. I find them fascinating and visit them quite regularly. Thanks for introducing us. If you're telling me that they provide impartial and expert news though I have to say - you must be joking. Just to revisit one here. Blacklisted news. There are a few human interest articles but it's otherwise overwhelmingly anti-west material. Moon of Alabama? It's Ukraine open thread's the same. Staunchly pro-Russian and scathing of anything Ukrainian/West.

This is a thread on Ukraine. I could explain by listing all the FACTS about this conflict starting from 1991 to the present, that are all fully verifiable but that you are in denial of ....... but I won’t waste my time explaining to someone who will not read it anyway.

What makes you think I don't read it? Why 1991? Shouldn't we start with the 1997 Treaty between Russia and Ukraine? Solemnly signed by Yeltsin and Kutchma. The one which "fixed the principle of strategic partnership, the recognition of the inviolability of existing borders, and respect for territorial integrity and mutual commitment not to use its territory to harm the security of each other. The treaty prevents Ukraine and Russia from invading one another's country respectively". We could start with that one - no?