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[Robin Hood]

More revelations by Seymour Hersh

https://www.firstpost.com/world/weapons ... 98492.html

Russia has a formidable propaganda/misinformation apparatus, which is both internationally and domestically orientated. It's centrally controlled, with the Kremlin at its apex. Is that a contentious statement?

Internationally, wrt the Ukrainian invasion, its objectives have remained unaltered since Feb 2022.

Principally - and relentlessly - focusing upon the weakening and dividing of western opinion in order to dilute and ultimately defeat popular support for the war. Popular support - unlike in an autocracy (dictatorship) - being a weakness of democratic systems.

To that end certain themes have been central and unremittingly played upon.

Denigration of the trans-sexual, corrupt, drug addict Zeleneskiyy is one. Corruption in the Ukrainian armed forces, resulting in the black market selling of western arms to neighbouring countries another. There are others.

People will of course tend to believe the material which most suits their particular agenda.

As you so wonderfully demonstrate!

[Londonrake]

As you so wonderfully demonstrate!

Do you not think then that Russia has a formidable propaganda/disinformation machine?

On a personal note. Are you up for this? I mean - really?

If so, one request. Can we please keep it on the forum?

Despite looking every day since we last "spoke" I still haven't found anything - anywhere - regarding the major command bunker incident Clayton Morris talked about on Redacted. Hundreds of top Ukrainian and NATO people killed? In fact Morris claimed it was "The end of NATO".

Don't you think that odd? Help me out. Do you have any further supporting evidence? It seems unbelievable that weeks after such a cataclysmic event, nothing, apart from the original claim by the Russian Defence Ministry, backed up by a YT from an overwhelmingly anti-west fringe site - has surfaced. Is there really a deity which has the power over the enormous diversity of western media sources to exercise that sort of influence? If so, who/where, do you think it is? I'm all ears.

[Londonrake]

No. I thought not.

One-liners aren't usually your MO. You normally present at least the semblance of a rational response.

[Robin Hood]

No. I thought not.

One-liners aren't usually your MO. You normally present at least the semblance of a rational response.

My non-reply is because until 5pm yesterday my computer was broken and I only had my lap-top which has a dodgy keyboard because it is never used.! But, rest assured when i can I will reply.

[Pyrpolizer]

More revelations by Seymour Hersh

https://www.firstpost.com/world/weapons ... 98492.html

Russia has a formidable propaganda/misinformation apparatus, which is both internationally and domestically orientated. It's centrally controlled, with the Kremlin at its apex. Is that a contentious statement?

Internationally, wrt the Ukrainian invasion, its objectives have remained unaltered since Feb 2022.

Principally - and relentlessly - focusing upon the weakening and dividing of western opinion in order to dilute and ultimately defeat popular support for the war. Popular support - unlike in an autocracy (dictatorship) - being a weakness of democratic systems.

To that end certain themes have been central and unremittingly played upon.

Denigration of the trans-sexual, corrupt, drug addict Zeleneskiyy is one. Corruption in the Ukrainian armed forces, resulting in the black market selling of western arms to neighbouring countries another. There are others.

People will of course tend to believe the material which most suits their particular agenda.

Enough of irrelevant blaber blaber. Do you know who Seymour Hersh is, on the first place???
He has never been proven wrong. NEVER!! And what he says in this particular article, was basically known for a long time, however you and your ilk, had the option of just denying it(as usual). Not any more. Now you can take it to the Bank as a guaranteed fact. Would you like to bet about the next terrorist attack with these weapons supplied to the corrupt UkroNazis, that made it to the black market?

[Pyrpolizer]

As you so wonderfully demonstrate!

A)
Do you not think then that Russia has a formidable propaganda/disinformation machine?

B) Don't you think that odd? Help me out. Do you have any further supporting evidence? It seems unbelievable that weeks after such a cataclysmic event, nothing, apart from the original claim by the Russian Defence Ministry, backed up by a YT from an overwhelmingly anti-west fringe site - has surfaced. Is there really a deity which has the power over the enormous diversity of western media sources to exercise that sort of influence? If so, who/where, do you think it is? I'm all ears.

While waiting for RH's respond here's my own.

A) Yes I do not think so. In fact I provided you the most recent example of Western disinformation just a few days ago. If you need more just read the leaked Pentagon documents.
And if you think your statement is true, then provide your own recent evidence. Oh... I forgot both you and Paphitis never provide any evidence.

B) The Russian MoD has never been proven wrong in any of it's announcements. Therefore it EARNED it's credibility. There's still a problem of what it hides though. However the exact same problem exists in the Western mis/disinformation machine. Did by any chance, pass through your mind, that probably, just probably, the "cataclysmic" event as you describe it, was hidden from public access for this specific reason? Do you have any doubt the Western MSM is fully controlled by the establishment? No?
Yes that's what I thought.

[Pyrpolizer]

Poland plus some more EU countries banned Ukrainian grain imports.
Dances with Wolves .. erm I meant hypocrites.

https://www.pig333.com/latest_swine_new ... rts_19253/

https://www.pig333.com/latest_swine_new ... cts_19266/

NB.Lordo, this site is all about the "latest_swine_news" !!

[Kikapu]

It appears that those who have served in the military before are the same people who buy into the Western propaganda bullshit on Ukraine (NATO)/Russia war.

It must be they were exposed to some kind of brainwashing whilst they were serving!

[Robin Hood]

As you so wonderfully demonstrate!

Do you not think then that Russia has a formidable propaganda/disinformation machine?
Despite looking every day since we last "spoke" I still haven't found anything - anywhere - regarding the major command bunker incident Clayton Morris talked about on Redacted. Hundreds of top Ukrainian and NATO people killed? In fact Morris claimed it was "The end of NATO".

He couldn’t either! Wasn’t that the point of his posting it? The only source he had that was a credible source, was the Russian MoD and they release ONLY bare facts. Unlike Kyiv they don’t make up stories. Have you yet to realise that any losses that Kyiv sustains are NEVER broadcast and the only casualties Kyiv announce are those the Russians military they kill or civilian deaths they can blame the Russians for. In both cases the figures are always grossly exaggerated.

I would expect more to come out over time but one thing is for sure ................. 82 Russian missile launches and 6 Khinzhals is accurate.

The Kinzhal’s are expensive so any target would be a high value target. The Russians would know all these targets and these are what they aim for and with the Kinzhal it is a very high probability they hit the target(s). The usual Kyiv claim that Russia only targets schools. hospitals, old peoples homes etc wouldn't work for most intelligent people ...... but there is aways you and Paphitis?

Don't you think that odd? Help me out. Do you have any further supporting evidence? It seems unbelievable that weeks after such a cataclysmic event, nothing, apart from the original claim by the Russian Defence Ministry, backed up by a YT from an overwhelmingly anti-west fringe site - has surfaced. Is there really a deity which has the power over the enormous diversity of western media sources to exercise that sort of influence? If so, who/where, do you think it is? I'm all ears.

As the video I posted showed .....when asked who was responsible? " Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia ...... the US! DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF OF THAT? "

I recall when MH17 was brought down and within a few hours John Kerry appeared on TV saying the US knew it was the Russians and had evidence! Your first comment was complete acceptance that was a fact ..... and Russia did it! Have you learned nothing? We never did see the irrefutable evidence and the MH17 investigation has turned out to be the most corrupt air-accident investigation of all time. Remember ...... KYIV had a veto on all evidence? What could go wrong with that?

You want to know who has that sort of power of control ? I can’t give you names but the Deep State of the Western Alliance/NATO countries would be my bet!

Do you not think then that Russia has a formidable propaganda/disinformation machine?

If you recall almost the first thing the West did after the "Russians completely unprovoked attack on an innocent and peace loving Ukraine" ....... was to sever all the internet links to Russia to stop their propaganda from getting through!

For propaganda to work you need to be able to project your claims to your intended audience. How could Russia get its propaganda over to the masses if they had no Internet links? Even RT you have to go through indirect routes to access. If you were to ask me if 'The West' had a "....... formidable propaganda/disinformation machine? My answer would be that I thought they absolutely excelled at it! They have gor their message to people true believers, kike you and Paphits, as is obvious. This war I would say is 90% western propaganda and one massive PR exercise! '

[Robin Hood]

It appears that those who have served in the military before are the same people who buy into the Western propaganda bullshit on Ukraine (NATO)/Russia war.

It must be they were exposed to some kind of brainwashing whilst they were serving!

If you think about it, it cannot be any other way! How else would you get thousands of troops to do things that as individuals they would not do?

The first few weeks in the military is used to break you down to realise you are a nobody and the last thing they want to hear is your opinion on anything. You take orders and respond without questioning those orders. So once they have taken all the 'rubbish' out of our brain ..... they then replace it with their rubbish.

But it is not just the military! It happens to the police and in a lesser way anyone, like a civil servant for instance, who has been told they have power over others. They become convinced they know every thing and get really annoyed when someone questions them and points out their errors.