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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:16 pm

Russia will defend her borders as she has done many times in the past, unlike the yanks who seem to hang around other peoples' borders. They lost millions protecting their country from the last Nazi invasion. Perhaps our Swine friends should be more worried how they are going to their own borders with 80,000 soldiers. As to the new Finland border, the Finns are like a fish out of water.

If they think they are getting some favour joining Nato they will soon realise the consequences of joining this here club and what they have to do for it. The Yank arms corporations have got dollars ringing in their eye=tills.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:28 am

Of course Zalizmenos was not asking for boots on the ground. I wonder how many are really there?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65245065
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:25 am

...yet that is the point, isn't it; the ''Russians'' have not kept up with their competition for the World's leadership so to speak, and they are losing clients thus, to "them".

What is Putin offering to 'us', those of us he says who are oppressed by "America"; certainly not the answers, or an example in our own lives we may emulate.

...not a Leader at fighting anything really, but the "others" he's made up; as i said: an evil force, not much more than a wanna be.

Let him fight (read: be ending) Hunger and Disease if he wants Fame and 'our' respect, rather than infamy. Let him end the Problem; as we can see, an issue he knows (all to) very well.

...nothing can justify the brutality of his actions in Ukraine. Nothing leads 'us' to believe his intentions are better.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:26 am

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Lordo wrote:They mention forming 12 brigades for the spring offensive, where the fuck are they going to create 12 brigades from? If they do indeed exist where the hell were they up to this point?


I suppose we could pose a similar question about where Russia’s going to get the forces for beefing up its new 800+ miles of border with NATO. Brought about as a result of the war they started …………. In order to prevent the expansion of NATO. Prior to which Finland had been a neutral country for 75 years.


Kikapu already answered but I 'd like to repeat once again that joining Nato is more about getting commission from purchases of armaments, than a matter of security. Albeit Sweden was already participating in Nato military exercises the Finnish PM just grabbed the opportunity. And what happened to her? She lost the elections! Good luck to the Fins becoming a nuclear target and paying on top of that.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:08 am

Also Nato by itself is not a threat to Russia. The threat is actually the nuclear weapons been deployed within Nato member states. There are rumors the Americans placed nukes even in Greece!!
Obviously there have to be new treaties for the elimination/control of these weapons.The Russians made it clear, that this time, the negotiations won't just include the nukes the Americans possess at home, but also the nukes they placed in Nato members, plus the nukes France and the UK have.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:10 pm

What is really interesting is the fact that Ukraine was perfectly alright till they decided to ask to join Nato and yet we have countries around Russia asking for Nato membership. Sane people learn from other people's mistakes and fools cannot learn lessons from their own mistakes.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:01 pm

Kikapu wrote:Actually, Russia does not need to post any more soldiers to it’s border with newly NATO member Finland than what there is already there now. All Russia will do, is to point 10 nukes towards Finland, which Russia can spare from the few thousand they have. All of a sudden, Finland has become a nuclear target by their own desire since there were never any threat to Finland from Russia to begin with. Now there is, created by the stupid Fins! :roll:


Pyrpolizer wrote:Kikapu already answered but I 'd like to repeat once again that joining Nato is more about getting commission from purchases of armaments, than a matter of security. Albeit Sweden was already participating in Nato military exercises the Finnish PM just grabbed the opportunity. And what happened to her? She lost the elections! Good luck to the Fins becoming a nuclear target and paying on top of that.

Also Nato by itself is not a threat to Russia. The threat is actually the nuclear weapons been deployed within Nato member states. There are rumors the Americans placed nukes even in Greece!!
Obviously there have to be new treaties for the elimination/control of these weapons.The Russians made it clear, that this time, the negotiations won't just include the nukes the Americans possess at home, but also the nukes they placed in Nato members, plus the nukes France and the UK have.


Wow! That'll teach me! :lol:

Lordo wrote:What is really interesting is the fact that Ukraine was perfectly alright till they decided to ask to join Nato and yet we have countries around Russia asking for Nato membership. Sane people learn from other people's mistakes and fools cannot learn lessons from their own mistakes.

I mean an idiot normally recognizes his own idiocy and keeps his mouth shut rather than broadcast it for everyone to read. :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:29 am

Lordo wrote:What is really interesting is the fact that Ukraine was perfectly alright till they decided to ask to join Nato and yet we have countries around Russia asking for Nato membership. Sane people learn from other people's mistakes and fools cannot learn lessons from their own mistakes.


...everything was all right while the infrastructure for oil and gaz was new; it could handle the corruption around it. Things fell apart though, long before Maidan, and before the Ukrainian bid for NATO membership; be serioouuus.

...as for the nuclear threat, only Putin has dared to be overt about it. That is worth thinking about; it says a lot about the man.

...(and Greece, would they refuse the bomb; Turkey has some too.)

(...there are bombs right in the heart of London, i'm told.)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:18 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
Lordo wrote:What is really interesting is the fact that Ukraine was perfectly alright till they decided to ask to join Nato and yet we have countries around Russia asking for Nato membership. Sane people learn from other people's mistakes and fools cannot learn lessons from their own mistakes.


...everything was all right while the infrastructure for oil and gaz was new; it could handle the corruption around it. Things fell apart though, long before Maidan, and before the Ukrainian bid for NATO membership; be serioouuus.

...as for the nuclear threat, only Putin has dared to be overt about it. That is worth thinking about; it says a lot about the man.

...(and Greece, would they refuse the bomb; Turkey has some too.)

(...there are bombs right in the heart of London, i'm told.)

Who knows what the Swine are up to?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:20 am

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