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[Pyrpolizer]

Another terrorist detained in Transnistria.
looks like Ukraine is desperate in escalating the war to neighboring countries hoping to be saved by Nato.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1633765981850939393
https://twitter.com/i/status/1633788318767775745

[Kikapu]

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I am sure we have all by now have seen the above photo of the alleged Ukrainian unarmed soldier getting murdered whilst smoking a cigarette by the Russians. I don’t know about you guys, but the skeptic in me is having a hard time buying this story knowing how well Zelensky and his Merry Nazi Men has used propaganda masterfully in this war.

Let’s examine few of the details told in the anti Russia propaganda press.

1. Why would a Russian soldier murder a prisoner of no threat and then release the video. Makes no sense.
2. Whenever have we seen a prisoner of war be allowed to wander around leisurely whilst having a cigarette as if he was in Central Park or something. It does not happen.
3. This alleged prisoner seems to be all alone. Where are his fellow captured soldiers or was he fighting this war alone in this area? Makes no sense.

Allegedly a Russian speaking person (most Ukrainians speak Russian) told the soldier “Die Bitch” and shot him after the soldier saying “Glory to Ukraine”. Apparently it is only a 12 seconds video. How convenient to select just 12 seconds to release showing only what the Ukrainians wants us to see. Where is the rest of the video which may tell us more what really happened and who may have murdered him? What man would call another man a “bitch”. Well, Paphitis does it all the time, but that’s a another matter.

This is what I think has happened to this murdered Ukrainian soldier. I believe he was murdered by one of the Nazis Zelensky sent to the front line to keep his forces fighting the Russians despite thousands dying for little purpose. This Ukrainian soldier may have had enough of the fighting and just wandered off without his weapon and kept on going smoking a cigarette. At some point he was stopped by the Ukrainian forces and was ordered back to the front line. He refused and he was shot as a coward and a traitor. Voices can easily be edited to the video.

Zelensky needs reasons for his forces to keep fighting and dying, so this murdered Ukrainian soldiers plays well in his propaganda playbook and the collective West who are culprits to this war are helping him to propagate the propaganda.

[Pyrpolizer]

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[Pyrpolizer]

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I am sure we have all by now have seen the above photo of the alleged Ukrainian unarmed soldier getting murdered whilst smoking a cigarette by the Russians. I don’t know about you guys, but the skeptic in me is having a hard time buying this story knowing how well Zelensky and his Merry Nazi Men has used propaganda masterfully in this war.

Let’s examine few of the details told in the anti Russia propaganda press.

1. Why would a Russian soldier murder a prisoner of no threat and then release the video. Makes no sense.
2. Whenever have we seen a prisoner of war be allowed to wander around leisurely whilst having a cigarette as if he was in Central Park or something. It does not happen.
3. This alleged prisoner seems to be all alone. Where are his fellow captured soldiers or was he fighting this war alone in this area? Makes no sense.

Allegedly a Russian speaking person (most Ukrainians speak Russian) told the soldier “Die Bitch” and shot him after the soldier saying “Glory to Ukraine”. Apparently it is only a 12 seconds video. How convenient to select just 12 seconds to release showing only what the Ukrainians wants us to see. Where is the rest of the video which may tell us more what really happened and who may have murdered him? What man would call another man a “bitch”. Well, Paphitis does it all the time, but that’s a another matter.

This is what I think has happened to this murdered Ukrainian soldier. I believe he was murdered by one of the Nazis Zelensky sent to the front line to keep his forces fighting the Russians despite thousands dying for little purpose. This Ukrainian soldier may have had enough of the fighting and just wandered of without his weapon and kept on going smoking a cigarette. At some point he was stopped by the Ukrainian forces and was ordered back to the front line. He refused and he was shot as a coward and a traitor. Voices can easily be edited to the video.

Zelensky needs reasons for his forces to keep fighting and dying, so this murdered Ukrainian soldiers plays well in his propaganda playbook and the collective West who are culprits to this war are helping him to propagate the propaganda.

Unfortunately Kiks it's not fake.
The Russian soldier had him pointed urging him to surrender telling him he has nothing to be afraid of, but he wouldn't. The Russian soldier tried to convince him telling him "why do you think we gave you a cigarette?" At that point the Ukrainian turned to the Russian provoking him in an audacious manner shouting "Slava Ukraine". Then it was all over...
There are many videos in Telegram, I will find one and post it later.

The modern helmets the Ukrainians and Russians use, have a camera on top and record everything.
Both sides send horrific video scenes to various channels most of them from helmet cameras, other from mobile phones.

[Pyrpolizer]

I only found this video, which only shows the final moments. It looks it has been deleted from twitter. Go to this Greek site, the video is retained there where it says "The video is published by Ukrainian channels - did AFU demilitarised their own or not?(soldier demilitarised at the end saying Slava Ukraini"

On second thought it is quite possible the man has been killed by Azov criminals who guard at the back killing deserters.

https://warnews247.gr/makeleio-sto-bakh ... diafygoun/

[Robin Hood]

This is what I call making a point and explaining it. You may agree with all of it or none of it but the guy gives an explanation. His comments should give rise to comments and discussion.

On here that doesn’t happen .......... those that would discuss get criticised by those with no opinion ........... or you get a stream of crap from Paphitis! No wonder this thread appears to be in terminal decline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFTrbhdRjwg

[Pyrpolizer]

This is what happens when idiots/know it all/ like ZelenSKY refuse to understand what operational encirclement means in war. Where's Paphitis and his dreams about the Ukrainians spending their time playing backgammon in Bakhmout?

https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/i- ... r_pto=wapp

[Londonrake]

This is what I call making a point and explaining it. You may agree with all of it or none of it but the guy gives an explanation. His comments should give rise to comments and discussion.

On here that doesn’t happen .......... those that would discuss get criticised by those with no opinion ........... or you get a stream of crap from Paphitis! No wonder this thread appears to be in terminal decline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFTrbhdRjwg

Whilst not exactly pointed that seems a tad unfair.

To get down to fundamentals perhaps. You, Kicks, Pyro and wotsitsname have your opinions which are certainly not going to change in any way, shape or form because of anything the like of myself says. Although, you will discuss matters among yourselves, perhaps leading to some modification of them. To be fair, that applies both ways of course. Nevertheless, that doesn't mean, as you suggest, I have no opinions. I think you know all of that's true.

It's a war. People take sides, for whatever reason and inflexibility reigns. Thus, as Pyro once said, there can't really be any meaningful "discussion". Ultimately, it just comes down to self-satisfying point scoring.

Strip out the enthusiastic jingoism and Paphitis does make valid points under it all. IMHO. I said earlier you would find it frustrating and I was right. He comes in like an air-raid once a week or so and disappears into the sunset as quickly as he arrived. You need to up your air defences.

Ritter has been a bit of a favourite in here and has had quite a few airings. He trades on his military background from the 80s and 90s - although the man doesn't attract the generic "brain-washing" insults others do, for some reason. In this video he sounds quite reasonable, although much of it is that dreaded thing "opinion". "I think" "I believe" etc. and if you listen closely there's a lot of hyperbole. For instance, most reports indicate that Russia fired 6 of their sooper-dooper Kinzal missiles at civilian targets in Ukr recently, Ritter talks of "large numbers".

The fact the man promulgates such views - he makes a living out of it - with impunity and in safety from the US, whereas if he'd done so conversely in, say, Russia he would have attracted - at the least - a lengthy prison term - is, as so often the case, apparently inadmissible.

I haven't worked out the trick of linking to a previous post on here but I watched one of Pyro's Ritter YouTubes I think about 4/6 weeks ago. Ritter was addressing a small gathering. In it he was quite animated and said "Russia has won this war.......... overwhelmingly!" "It has been the greatest achievement in military history". At the time I drew attention to it and asked whether even the most faithful went along with that. No answer of course.

Where does the man get his information? He isn't in Ukraine, he's in the US. The answer of course is - like all these "independents" - he gets it from the same sort of sources as you and I. When the Deputy Mayor of Bakhmut is ridiculed in here for talking about the situation in (the little that's left of) his home town from Kiev why are people like Ritter listened to with glowing respect? Answer - because he says the "right" things.

This thread will not decline and terminate. It will carry on much as it has these past 14 months. I personally suspect - despite Ritter's death sentence - that it will continue to do so for a long time.

[Pyrpolizer]

I haven't worked out the trick of linking to a previous post on here but I watched one of Pyro's Ritter YouTubes I think about 4/6 weeks ago. Ritter was addressing a small gathering. In it he was quite animated and said "Russia has won this war.......... overwhelmingly!" "It has been the greatest achievement in military history". At the time I drew attention to it and asked whether even the most faithful went along with that. No answer of course.

It's been a long time you admitted you keep records (not written but in your memory as you said) of what everyone says, which after a long time use as you see fit. Problem is in 99% of the cases your memory record is a distorted report of the truth. Similarly with the above.

Not been able to provide a link to a post is a lame excuse. You can always provide the date and time of the post in question. or you could just ask. To save you the time you just Right click after the RE:.... header of the post and then press copy link. Then you just paste it in your message.

Until you do this, your memory report holds zero credibility.

[Londonrake]

I haven't worked out the trick of linking to a previous post on here but I watched one of Pyro's Ritter YouTubes I think about 4/6 weeks ago. Ritter was addressing a small gathering. In it he was quite animated and said "Russia has won this war.......... overwhelmingly!" "It has been the greatest achievement in military history". At the time I drew attention to it and asked whether even the most faithful went along with that. No answer of course.

It's been a long time you admitted you keep records (not written but in your memory as you said) of what everyone says, which after a long time use as you see fit. Problem is in 99% of the cases your memory record is a distorted report of the truth. Similarly with the above.

Not been able to provide a link to a post is a lame excuse. You can always provide the date and time of the post in question. or you could just ask. To save you the time you just Right click after the RE:.... header of the post and then press copy link. Then you just paste it in your message.

Until you do this, your memory report holds zero credibility.

Thanks very much for the tip. Honestly. I can assure you though that Ritter did say that. If I search and repost it do I get an apology? Or, will you break off our engagement.

I wish I could keep memory records of what everyone says. Or such, regarding anything for that matter. I do though think we should all be accountable for our past posts. However embarrassing. It isn't "tricks". I include myself in that of course.