Paphitis ......... can you please refrain from posting multiple previous posts when they have no relevance? Do what I do ....... use your brain and post just that you are commenting on!
Paphitis
Yes sure - just in time for their good will gesture, which in reality was a rout and retreat in defeat. What a coincidence. They tried to take Kyiv but failed and had to explain it someway.
Since the early days of this conflict it has been obvious that Russia is not fighting a NATO type blitzkrieg campaign ...... but the MSM and all these ‘media military experts' base their opinions and comments on the only wars they know! Their so called ‘
peace keeping’ operations to enforce the ‘
defence’ of their ideas of democracy, just where they see fit i.e. Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc.
These Western/NATO experts are so far up their own asses they have yet to work out Russia is fighting a very different war that they do not understand. Something the West sees as a failure because they are making comparisons with the NATO battle plan.
Russia never intended to take Kiev or any of the other cities they threatened with just their mere presence in the North. There was virtually no air attacks or carpet bombing of the targets .... as per a NATO operation and that 40km column of tanks and APC’s only ever fired when they were fired upon by Ukraine military. In towns and villages where they met no resistance ...... they handed out food and medicine and other household requirements. This applied to Kharkiv, Summi and others. In each they held hundreds of thousand’s of the Ukraine military, tied down protecting places that were not really under any great threat.
Take Kyiv! The Russian invaders were travelling at a slow pace only fighting mainly minor skirmishes. Anyone with a brain, unless it had been brain washed by propaganda,...... would realise you do not set out to conquer a country or even its capital city ........ with just 30,000 troops and attempt to take Kyiv with convoy’s of old trucks and WWII armour!
The Western military experts paranoia kept 160,000 trained and well armed Ukraine military ‘
protecting’ Kyiv alone. 160,000 troops and equipment that would otherwise be rushing south to protect Russia’s intended targets ...... selected Eastern and Southern oblasts, where they met no or little resistanc. They managed that in a few days and established the Southern bridge between Russia and the Crimea. They put the brakes on after they enthusiastically overshot in Kherson and ended up in a position that was hard to defend. They later rectified this and pulled back to a more secure defence line ..... and haven’t move much since.
When these incursions had served their purpose and the land bridge was established, they announced their withdrawal and they did this within a few days.
Once he was sure the Russians were leaving Zelenskey played to an audience of people like you and claimed full credit for his glorious forces heroism in “
driving out the Russian invaders” who of course were in a panic and running for their lives. And you and millions of the brain washed masses believed that fairy story without question!
As Ukraine’s forces occupied the villages and towns vacated by the Russian forces, they shelled every village and town, just in case the Russians were still hiding there, Then they set about seeking out and punishing the ‘Russian collaborators' ....... and that was anyone who had Russian food or medicines or caught wearing the white identity arm bands or the victim of accusations from hostile neighbor. Bucha was the first larger town the Ukrainian Ultra Nationalist thugs entered and the results of their battalions cleansing exercise was clear to see, So they blamed the Russians with their PR campaign and their own investigation into the event. Nobody in the West ever questioned why the Russians would kill civilians they had been supplying with help for a few weeks. The Russians had no cause or reason to murder civilians .......but the Ukraine Ultra Nationalist did!
Since when has anything coming from Ruzzia been sincere or true. The whole war is under a false pretense of fighting Nazism for heaven sake, and they said they wanted to scale down and give "goodwill gestures"? and in the same breath absolutely raise Mariupol to the ground among many other cities and towns...
It is the US/UK/EU/NATO that cannot be believed or trusted.
Unfortunately, there were no meetings with Ukraine or its officials. There were only talks through third parties such as through Erdogan and Turkey behind the scenes and some other western countries like France. None had the power to agree to anything and Ukraine was never a party to it. Nor did any agreements be reached.
The West lied to and mislead Russia for over eight years over the Minsk accord and Minsk II. Merkle blew it and confessed the West had no intension of everdriving for a peaceful settlement ...... they used the lull in action on the Minsk LoC to rearm the Nationalists!
And the US never applied any pressure to negate any potential agreements and even had behind the scenes talks with Ruzzia with nothing to come of it.
No of course they didn’t they just worked behind the scenes with the Ultra Nationalist government that THEY installed and gradually built up a large proxy force armed and trained by the US and its partners! Until 24/2/22 Russia had no serious involvement in Ukraine and that is something that cannot be said for the US and all its poodles.