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[Paphitis]

Han on a minute.

These are not refugees fleeing war from Turkey. Let me just do a google search and check!

[Paphitis]

Yep, just as I thought. Google knows everything.

I searched and nope, there is no war in Turkey. These people are safe in Turkey.

Therefore, they are illegal immigrants breaking Greek Laws.

Therefore, the Greek Government isn’t doing anything wrong. And they have plenty of their own issues to sort out too.

Australia would have gone one step further and incarcerated them into detention centres for years if necessary till they leave. And they would do it in detention centres mostly outside of Australia.

[Paphitis]

Done we’re in detention centres fir so long, Trump had to take them to the US with a US Protection Visa.

But they will never be allowed to enter Australia ever.

[Lordo]

Ignorancen of some people know no bounds. There is an international law and a European law to protect these people but neither the UN or the EU has any balls to implement the law.

Interesting inperpretation of a law that does not exist.

First you have to find the paragraph that mentions where refugee can ask for assylum and then post it here.

But there is couple of words in engilsh you have not grasped the meaning of.

In this law you specified I noticed you used the word should. Do you understand the difference between the meanings of should and must?

Secondly your understanig of safe country is that there is no war. Well perhaps you can check that in 5the UN convention of refugees to see what it says about war and safe and do they mean the same thing.

And I thought it was christmas today and people would be nicer towards others.

[miltiades]

They most certainly aren't refugees. Economic migrants escaping from their respective shit holes in order to join the civilized world. Why on earth don't they go to Saudi Arabia or other " developed " Islamic shit holes.

[Lordo]

They most certainly aren't refugees. Economic migrants escaping from their respective shit holes in order to join the civilized world. Why on earth don't they go to Saudi Arabia or other " developed " Islamic shit holes.

That is the whole point of this thread to open your eyes Milti.

You can take any example of a country and lets look at it. How was it and when did it become a shithole as you describe it. You do realise that that is the kind of language ignorant Trump uses right?

How long have you been a Trumpesquian?

On a related matter did you leave a shithole to settle in the UK?

[Maximus]

They most certainly aren't refugees. Economic migrants escaping from their respective shit holes in order to join the civilized world. Why on earth don't they go to Saudi Arabia or other " developed " Islamic shit holes.

That is the whole point of this thread to open your eyes Milti.

You can take any example of a country and lets look at it. How was it and when did it become a shithole as you describe it. You do realise that that is the kind of language ignorant Trump uses right?

How long have you been a Trumpesquian?

On a related matter did you leave a shithole to settle in the UK?

There are many examples of countries and people that were impoverished and lacked fundamental rights, who got their independence from colonial rule, then within a generation or two made progress and prospered or at least created a stable and relatively comfortable life.

Then there are examples of countries and people that received the same but didnt progress or prosper at all. One hundred years later, they still cant get their shit together, even though there are many examples in the world to model.

Open your eyes Bordo, what is happening to European countries with this illegal migration is a tragedy. To both the host nations / locals and the migrants.

[Lordo]

BAck to the idea of returning refugees to a safe country.

As I said before there is no such paragraph under UN convention on refugees. Ironically there is such law in the EU but it is very specific about where you return the refugees. It is not any old country but the EU country they first set foot on. That rule is called the Dublin rule. And here is the irony of it all. UK having left the EU can no longer apply that rule besides the fact that UK case law is very specific. You cannot return people back till you have evaluated their status.

To all those against refugee rights, shove that in your pipes and smoke it babies.

Why are you boys so shy to discuss any country that these people hare running away from. Give me en example of where people are claiming refugee or assylum against and lets have a look at it. The perfect example is Libya.

Why Libya you may ask. Very simple it is because Libya is a country that used to accept migrants never mind refugees from Europe and Cyprus. So how did it turn upside down.

I get a feeling some members here have the attention span of a fish.

[miltiades]

Theocratic nations are, to me, shit holes.

[Maximus]

BAck to the idea of returning refugees to a safe country.

As I said before there is no such paragraph under UN convention on refugees. Ironically there is such law in the EU but it is very specific about where you return the refugees. It is not any old country but the EU country they first set foot on. That rule is called the Dublin rule. And here is the irony of it all. UK having left the EU can no longer apply that rule besides the fact that UK case law is very specific. You cannot return people back till you have evaluated their status.

To all those against refugee rights, shove that in your pipes and smoke it babies.

Why are you boys so shy to discuss any country that these people hare running away from. Give me en example of where people are claiming refugee or assylum against and lets have a look at it. The perfect example is Libya.

Why Libya you may ask. Very simple it is because Libya is a country that used to accept migrants never mind refugees from Europe and Cyprus. So how did it turn upside down.

I get a feeling some members here have the attention span of a fish.

Not sure what you are talking about,

Refugee or not to refugee that is the question.

85-90% of asylum applications in Europe are bogus.

Which means that the overwhelming majority of these people arriving in the EU are not refugees and refugees are less likely to receive the kind of help they could have got because so many people are arriving.

You are conflating the issue, trying to categorize everyone arriving in the EU as a refugee, when the overwhelming majority are not.

For someone who is so pro asylum, you should take issue with these people trying to take resources away from genuine refugees, instead of lumping them in to further your BS arguments.