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[Maximus]

Your whole thesis is a fallacy, stop embarrassing yourself.

[Lordo]

And yet here we are where with at least 3 dufferent organisations implementing it. Of course it is nonsense. As nonsensical as how some factories in UK pay 2.5 pounds an hour and get away with it and of course what they produce is being sold in fashion shops an huge profit. Not to mention farms who also pay more to the gang masters than the actual workers.

But thanks to Brexit that little scam is over.

Will never forget farmer being inyterviewed saying he agreed with Brexit only to get a call from his gang master to say that he cannot find any workers as people from Eastern Europe have not returned and then him to instruct his gangmaster to find some other workers from somewhere else. You cannot make it up.

This is CYPRUS forum not UK forum. I don't know if there's such exploitation there, all I know is that there no exploitation here, at least against Cypriots. Some illegal workers are been exploited for sure, but that's not a major concern. The truth is there is no minimum salary in Cyprus, yet there is some informal consensus at 850 Euros for the unskilled. It's not enough to survive if you are single. But if you are a working couple, it's just OK.
We have a housemaid cleaning the house once a week. We pay her 6 euros an hour. She works at other houses too. Makes about 1500 Euros a month. Not bad for a cleaner...

I also own a business that used to be very healthy before the haircut. Now it just survives.if they'd force me to increase salaries or fees to those I cooperate even by 5% I will close it down immediately, and then die from depression of having nothing to do all day.

Oneof the reasons companies suffer is they actually do not train their staff and I mean train them properly. A person should not be a salesman for anything unless they use it themseves and understand enough if not all to be able to advise the customer. it is called personal service. There is nothing worse than calling a company and getting a person who knows fuck all about what they are selling and just take a booking.

Not only do you have to have excellent product you have to have excellent after service with people who know what you are talking about.

I noticed in one of your posts you talked about how much a telephone operator should get. That tells me you do not know how imprtant they are. They are the face of your organisation and when clients call thats the first person they hear and judgement is made from than on.

I do not know anythiong about what you do or how big your organisation is but if your margains are that tights, you are not doing things right. There are consultants that help with situations like that.

A friend of mine has two restaurants next door to each other. One charges 15 pounds per head and the other charges 60 pounds per head and they are both full at all times. There is a reason for this.It is no accident.

[repulsewarrior]

"...i pushed the "like" button; good stuff; food for thought."

[Lordo]

You start with a simple understanding that poverty is no accident. Capitalist system is designed to exploit people. If they could they would chain people up and drain their blood because it is profitable. It does not need to be this way. It can be a fairer scociety where verybody can earn a comfortable living and have a decent life. It really is not that hard except that greed comes into the equation.

There is an old syaing in Cyprus. Garin doyar ama goz doymaz. You have people earning millions doing bugger all and you have people breaking their backs carrying heavy sulfur blocks for a dolar a day.

This world could be heaven but they have turned it to hell for us.

[Lordo]

Your whole thesis is a fallacy, stop embarrassing yourself.

You undestand jack shit about anything boy. Now what have you done with your toilet brush?

[Lordo]

"...i pushed the "like" button; good stuff; food for thought."

This is very interesting.

But in reality povery is no accident. So the decision of Dan Price to pay all his staff 70,000 per year has turned the old economic theory on wages on its head. He was told he would go bankrupt. Instead he has more than doubled in size with his turnover and employment. McD is no diffferent. Deciding to pay the living wage to their people goes to show that they are begining to see the benefit. The benefits are huge from people's spending power to well being and everything inbetween.

Happy people work better and produce more.

Funny how all adverts we see show people happy.

Trevor Noah once said that he was tasked to run an advertising clip for McD and was given specific instruction not to use people in the advert that actually eat at McDs. So they used to pretend they cared but now it seems they have seen the benefit and are actually doing something about it. It is the thin end of the wedge and it will grow. Soon people paying lower wages will not be able to recruit people. I guess even in the business world there is evolution and those who do not evolve go out of business.

[Pyrpolizer]

No business lasts for ever. McD will one day close down, Pizza Hut, Starbucks everything you can think of will last maximum another 30 years. Who would have ever imagine "the Guardian" begging for donations.. 9 out of 10 restaurants in Cyprus get bankrupt within a year.
There are companies that rely on cheap personnel to survive. These will be the first ones to close down as soon as they won't find cheap personnel anymore. It's all circumstantial, fashion, trend, and technology related.

Now if in a company there's a telephone operator, or a photocopy machine operator, or a delivery boy at a restaurant, who don't get enough to survive, while at the same time there are another 80 people who do, Lordo's dogma says give those people higher salaries. What would it cost, almost nothing...

Yet the result is predictable. Huge unemployment among the already poor.
Almost all low paying jobs just exist because there are poor people.

You want to decrease poverty? Do the right things and doing the mother Theresa is not one of them. You will never eradicate it, just decrease it.

In conclusion capitalism does not create poverty. It only helps the poor to step up.

[Lordo]

No business lasts for ever. McD will one day close down, Pizza Hut, Starbucks everything you can think of will last maximum another 30 years. Who would have ever imagine "the Guardian" begging for donations.. 9 out of 10 restaurants in Cyprus get bankrupt within a year.
There are companies that rely on cheap personnel to survive. These will be the first ones to close down as soon as they won't find cheap personnel anymore. It's all circumstantial, fashion, trend, and technology related.

Now if in a company there's a telephone operator, or a photocopy machine operator, or a delivery boy at a restaurant, who don't get enough to survive, while at the same time there are another 80 people who do, Lordo's dogma says give those people higher salaries. What would it cost, almost nothing...

Yet the result is predictable. Huge unemployment among the already poor.
Almost all low paying jobs just exist because there are poor people.

You want to decrease poverty? Do the right things and doing the mother Theresa is not one of them. You will never eradicate it, just decrease it.

In conclusion capitalism does not create poverty. It only helps the poor to step up.

Sure it is just like a leach helping a human being to release the blood pressure whether it is needed or not.

[Lordo]

This is not long and worth listening to.

[Maximus]

Capitalism and democracy have raised the most people out of poverty in the history of mankind.

Its not perfect but there isn't a better system, everyone has an opportunity to raise themselves to a comfortable standard of living.

That guys says that you only need $7.40 a day to lift yourself out of poverty.