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[Lordo]

Why would this CEO pay £15 an hour for a cleaner, when anyone can do the job and 50 people have applied and they are all willing to do it for £8 an hour?

So it does not matter whether it is a living wage or not then?

How about the student that works in McDonalds for 6 hours every other day. Should he get £100 an hour so he's got a living wage as well?

Now you are being stupid. Wjo said 100 pounds an hour. I said 15 pounds an hour which was Biden's and Corbyn's policies.

Lets see if you undestand the way business works, If McD pays its workers the double the ages, what percentage would it have to increase the prices at the counter?

[Maximus]

Why would this CEO pay £15 an hour for a cleaner, when anyone can do the job and 50 people have applied and they are all willing to do it for £8 an hour?

So it does not matter whether it is a living wage or not then?

How about the student that works in McDonalds for 6 hours every other day. Should he get £100 an hour so he's got a living wage as well?

Now you are being stupid. Wjo said 100 pounds an hour. I said 15 pounds an hour which was Biden's and Corbyn's policies.

Lets see if you undestand the way business works, If McD pays its workers the double the ages, what percentage would it have to increase the prices at the counter?

Nothing to do with Maduro and his regime then, no?

[Pyrpolizer]

How is that allowed to happen Bordo?

Well lets think now. Take a company who's CEO pays him/herself 1 million a year but pays the cleaner 8.0 an hour. 8 hours of work gives 68 pounds per day. Can you live on 68 pounds per day less tax and insurance?

Can this CEO not afford to pay 15 pounds per hour so this person can at least live. It is called paying a living wage. Or is this communism?

We can't have people being paid a living wage so they are able to live, right? or not?

It is allowed because there is no law stopping it. Even the minimum wage being paid now is advisory.

Oh don't tell me if they paid 15 pound an hour they will go bankrupt. Like fuck.

The median salary in the UK in 2021 was 2000 STG.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/122 ... loyees-uk/
Poverty line is defined to half the median -->1000 STG
Your cleaner gets 1428 (5 day weak) therefore not below the poverty line.

No state can ever encourage incapacity. Otherwise no one would ever care finishing school, get some skill etc. Everybody would end up a cleaner.
Now if such a cleaner has no way to survive with this salary (e.g. Single parent family), then there are the social services that will help.

I really don't understand your point. If one has nothing to offer other than manual work, then that's what he is going to be paid for. It has always been like that, thousands of years before the rise of capitalism. To get more money you have to do a lot of mental work that others are willing to pay for it.The jobs that never lose value are those offering skill+mental+labour e.g a Doctor, a technician, etc.

[Maximus]

Why would this CEO pay £15 an hour for a cleaner, when anyone can do the job and 50 people have applied and they are all willing to do it for £8 an hour?

So it does not matter whether it is a living wage or not then?

How about the student that works in McDonalds for 6 hours every other day. Should he get £100 an hour so he's got a living wage as well?

Now you are being stupid. Wjo said 100 pounds an hour. I said 15 pounds an hour which was Biden's and Corbyn's policies.

Lets see if you undestand the way business works, If McD pays its workers the double the ages, what percentage would it have to increase the prices at the counter?

I thought you wanted people to earn a living wage.

How can a student go to school and support themselves on £15 an hour working part time?

[Lordo]

Why would this CEO pay £15 an hour for a cleaner, when anyone can do the job and 50 people have applied and they are all willing to do it for £8 an hour?

So it does not matter whether it is a living wage or not then?

How about the student that works in McDonalds for 6 hours every other day. Should he get £100 an hour so he's got a living wage as well?

Now you are being stupid. Wjo said 100 pounds an hour. I said 15 pounds an hour which was Biden's and Corbyn's policies.

Lets see if you undestand the way business works, If McD pays its workers the double the ages, what percentage would it have to increase the prices at the counter?

I thought you wanted people to earn a living wage.

How can a student go to school and support themselves on £8 an hour working part time?

You are avoiding the subject. We are talking about people who have kids to feed, NOT students, being paid 8.20 an hour and forced to work part time hours to. They have no choice to even work full time.

[Maximus]

No, we are talking about people, and you are discriminating now. students need to live as well.

So if a cleaner applies for a job and she has kids to feed she should be paid $15 an hour. But if a single person applies for the same job and is equally qualified, they should only get $8 and hour. Because they dont have kids to feed.

Is this what you are saying?

[Lordo]

How is that allowed to happen Bordo?

Well lets think now. Take a company who's CEO pays him/herself 1 million a year but pays the cleaner 8.0 an hour. 8 hours of work gives 68 pounds per day. Can you live on 68 pounds per day less tax and insurance?

Can this CEO not afford to pay 15 pounds per hour so this person can at least live. It is called paying a living wage. Or is this communism?

We can't have people being paid a living wage so they are able to live, right? or not?

It is allowed because there is no law stopping it. Even the minimum wage being paid now is advisory.

Oh don't tell me if they paid 15 pound an hour they will go bankrupt. Like fuck.

The median salary in the UK in 2021 was 2000 STG.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/122 ... loyees-uk/
Poverty line is defined to half the median -->1000 STG
Your cleaner gets 1428 (

5 day weak)

therefore not below the poverty line.

No state can ever encourage incapacity. Otherwise no one would ever care finishing school, get some skill etc. Everybody would end up a cleaner.
Now if such a cleaner has no way to survive with this salary (e.g. Single parent family), then there are the social services that will help.

I really don't understand your point. If one has nothing to offer other than manual work, then that's what he is going to be paid for. It has always been like that, thousands of years before the rise of capitalism. To get more money you have to do a lot of mental work that others are willing to pay for it.The jobs that never lose value are those offering skill+mental+labour e.g a Doctor, a technician, etc.

You mean per month right?

That is 8.9 pounds an hour. Take out your insurance and tax and it will just cover your rent in London assuming you have just a bedsit, not even a one bedroom flat. They start at about at about 1800 per month. You think this is not poverty?

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/London/1-bed-flats.html

We have already established that in UK 50% of workers earn less than 25,000 a year. Your median figures are just statistics.

[Maximus]

You mean per month right?

That is 8.9 pounds an hour. Take out your insurance and tax and it will just cover your rent in London assuming you have just a bedsit, not even a one bedroom flat. They start at about at about 1800 per month. You think this is not poverty?

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/London/1-bed-flats.html

We have already established that in UK 50% of workers earn less than 25,000 a year. Your median figures are just statistics.

So what is the solution Bordo? Someone else pays?

[Lordo]

Its the same answer to my question about McD. Get that abd you will know the answer to this question too.

What percentage does the manager at McD has to increae the prises to be able to pay double wages?

it really is not hard.

Back in the late 80s I had a company and my friend had a McD shop. He was paying his workers 2.0 pounds per hour and I was paying my workers 5 pounds per hour. Because it had to be a living wage. Its not roket science.

Is the toilet brushat the ready? Get set, go.

[Maximus]

I don't know bordo, how much does Mcdonald have to increase the prices to double employee wages. ?