Paphitis wrote:Kikapu wrote:Paphitis wrote:Kikapu wrote:erolz66 wrote:Paphitis wrote:You simply can't travel acoss Australia or the States in an EV.
You simply can in the US.
https://cleantechnica.com/2020/06/30/yo ... y-america/
Yes, it’s a bit like when Route 66 was built in the 1920’s as a direct route between Los Angeles and Chicago which many travelers used as it was very convenient with petrol station, motels and restaurants. Today, sadly it is mostly gone, but many still drive parts of it for nostalgic purposes because many now use the major Interstate network to travel and save time. In time, America will become fully EV all over the country to aid travelers much more efficiently. It will take some time to get some people out of their big SUVs, but it will happen eventually.
Vehicles have to be fit for purpose. That is, fit for the purpose you want to use them for.
SUVs, Utes are fantastic, because of their high Torque, giving them great towing capacity. Great for families. Great for going offroad and exploring the country.
Therefore, if you are in the US, or Australia, want to explore, love 4 wheeling, need to tow a caravan, go offroad to discover the countryside, go fishing or camping with the family, then you can't beat an SUV or UTE 4x4. More room to carry the things you need. And a strong vehicle to get yourself into trouble, and out of trouble. If you are not into that, and just put around the city and never venture out, then these SUVs/Utes are not fit for your intended usage.
EV's are not able to provide such a vehicle and probably never will be able to. However, Hybrid version will start to come out in 2023. The new Raptor is coming out with a Hybrid option. And it offers plenty of Torque. 630 if I remember correctly. But it isn't my thing. Only because the battery packs are another thing that can go wrong and they don't last long before you need to spend thousands to replace it. Plus they are a fire risk in an accident. So Diesal is very much king. Or the 5.7L Petrol Silverado (my new fave).
And again, first thing to do to these bueatiful cars is remove all the Environmental Protection junk and fit a catch can and the manufacturer can jam their warranty where the sun don't shine. And never follow the recommended maintenance cycles. You service your car every 5000km.
These vehicles are pretty much recreational vehicles. These Utes, hold the top 2 spots in sales in Australia, America, Canada and many other places like Thailand, UAE etc etc.
maybe not in Europe or Cyprus, because you have idiot Governments over there over taxing you.
I'm not against EV, when they come up with one that xan do everything our SUVs/Utes can do and won't burn us alive in a freak accident where you may be trapped inside. But that day is a long way off.
EV vehicles have a lot of torque. I have seen here in Switzerland EV buses with passengers speeding up hills no problem. Much better than normal diesel buses I would say. No doubt there are/will be full size trucks/18 wheelers on the roads. For the US market, once they are able to make EV vehicles, cars, buses and semi trucks achieve 600 miles/1000km in between charges, petrol and diesel vehicles will be history. 600miles /1000km is the average distance a commercial driver can achieve in a 10 hours allowed to drive after 8 hours rest, which will be enough time to charge up the batteries at truck stops.
Husband/wife teams will keep their diesel trucks a while longer as they drive almost non stop as they share the driving while one sleeps in the cab with a bed. They can drive across the US in 3 days and nights. Once a full charge can be achieved for trucks under two hours, they too will use the EV trucks as it will be far more comfortable and quieter in the cab. That would allow these truckers to sit down for a meal and take a shower or two at a truck stop.
An EV can not do what a normal SUV/Ute 4x4 can do. For instance, it isn't viable to criss cross Australia, or the US for that matter, going offroad to secluded parts of the country for the purpose of your family vacation, camp or road trip.
And they do not have the same power to weight ratio. For instance, the new Hybrid Raptor with it's extra torque doesn't have a better power to weight ratio as it's 200kg heavier.
they are not making an EV version, even though they can, because such a Ute would be pretty much useless for what its intended use is.
And from what I know, the Diesal and Petrol versions will outselll the Hybrid by a country mile.
Good luck with the 600 miles on a single charge. Might be possible on a truck but in a Car, you would need 2 tonnes worth in Lithium Ion batteries.
As you know, the US is far more densely populated than Australia is. I am only talking about the US market to change the attitudes of petrol/diesel heads as the EV infrastructure grows across the country as well as the battery charging technology to be much much quicker. You know it is coming not too far in the future. For those who will refuse to change, there will be legislations introduced to make them change their minds in the form of a “carrot and stick” approach by the government. Europe will be an easy sell to the people on the EV future as people generally much more “greener” than those in the US, especially those in the Red States.
