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Re: Taking advantage of the latest CY car subsidy scheme…

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:55 pm

...balance is the issue; where cars are king, like in L.A. try crossing the street (on foot), it is a real challenge on some corners.

Being car dependent, it's ease, works for a little while, until more cars fill up the road; why use cars, with alternatives, knowing that?

...i buy locally for one thing, and i avoid big box stores for another. I have an electric scooter which works just fine (in my personal life) to save time often enough, while shopping further afield. Working from a pick-up truck seems unavoidable for me, and for a number of reasons, but i must admit that there are times when Public Transit would be quite sufficient, yet not as convenient.

In affect, paying twice the cost, or even four times the cost, (at work), using the truck is still (more) efficient (read: easier) for a few dollars more.

...there are conscious choices we must make.

Plunder, the plunder, must stop.

It would be nice if we grew closer to nature. Clean water, air and earth are a choice which we have as a race (or, a species that reasons) for far too long ignored; what is pollution? ...and what with the consequences we face, we can all do our part.

...more choices, and the capacity to make better decisions, isn't that what progress is about?
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Re: Taking advantage of the latest CY car subsidy scheme…

Postby Lordo » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:54 pm

What we have currently is not sustainable. There is a better way of using resources as well as working less hour n a week and be just as productive. Just because this is how we have been doing things so far does not mean it has to continue this way. Every so often situation changes and adjustments are made. Those days where we gained a skill at uni and we used it all our lives is over. We need to re-skill when ever necessary.

It can be done and there does not have to be any suffering for anybody.
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Re: Taking advantage of the latest CY car subsidy scheme…

Postby Lordo » Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:04 am

Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:My friend you are stuck 50 years behind.Ever heard of online deliveries? Gavole mavrole.

:lol: I must say, your Cypriot is really weird man... it should be:

“Thkiaole mavre”


PS: For the English-only speakers... it’s the Cypriot equivalent to “for crying out loud”, although it literally means “dark Satan”.

Endje eshis ennan okkan Gibreiga mesdin gargasou gavole. Eyniges delya Ellinigon Galamaran.
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Re: Taking advantage of the latest CY car subsidy scheme…

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:23 am

Lordo wrote:What we have currently is not sustainable. There is a better way of using resources as well as working less hour n a week and be just as productive. Just because this is how we have been doing things so far does not mean it has to continue this way. Every so often situation changes and adjustments are made. Those days where we gained a skill at uni and we used it all our lives is over. We need to re-skill when ever necessary.

It can be done and there does not have to be any suffering for anybody.


You are all pushing into wind.

Car pollution only accounts for 19% of CO2 emissions. And cars are becoming more efficient so that is in decline.

It’s industry that is the big polluter. Like fossil fuel electricity generation, and manufacturing.
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Re: Taking advantage of the latest CY car subsidy scheme…

Postby Get Real! » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:48 am

Lordo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:My friend you are stuck 50 years behind.Ever heard of online deliveries? Gavole mavrole.

:lol: I must say, your Cypriot is really weird man... it should be:

“Thkiaole mavre”


PS: For the English-only speakers... it’s the Cypriot equivalent to “for crying out loud”, although it literally means “dark Satan”.

Endje eshis ennan okkan Gibreiga mesdin gargasou gavole. Eyniges delya Ellinigon Galamaran.

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An den graftis stin sholin mou enna minis banda gaourin dis Louroujinas! :)

Libon, ennarto tzikasto Turnpike Lane na se evro me do basso, na sou kamno mathimada!
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Re: Taking advantage of the latest CY car subsidy scheme…

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:23 am

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:What we have currently is not sustainable. There is a better way of using resources as well as working less hour n a week and be just as productive. Just because this is how we have been doing things so far does not mean it has to continue this way. Every so often situation changes and adjustments are made. Those days where we gained a skill at uni and we used it all our lives is over. We need to re-skill when ever necessary.

It can be done and there does not have to be any suffering for anybody.


You are all pushing into wind.

Car pollution only accounts for 19% of CO2 emissions. And cars are becoming more efficient so that is in decline.

It’s industry that is the big polluter. Like fossil fuel electricity generation, and manufacturing.


...small modular reactors; they are coming soon.

As for cars, if you have the yard for it, having several is best; no single "car" suits all purposes. You can still make the commitment to ride a bike, and walk. You can make a commitment to use your car(s) less too.
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Re: Taking advantage of the latest CY car subsidy scheme…

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:14 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:What we have currently is not sustainable. There is a better way of using resources as well as working less hour n a week and be just as productive. Just because this is how we have been doing things so far does not mean it has to continue this way. Every so often situation changes and adjustments are made. Those days where we gained a skill at uni and we used it all our lives is over. We need to re-skill when ever necessary.

It can be done and there does not have to be any suffering for anybody.


You are all pushing into wind.

Car pollution only accounts for 19% of CO2 emissions. And cars are becoming more efficient so that is in decline.

It’s industry that is the big polluter. Like fossil fuel electricity generation, and manufacturing.


...small modular reactors; they are coming soon.

As for cars, if you have the yard for it, having several is best; no single "car" suits all purposes. You can still make the commitment to ride a bike, and walk. You can make a commitment to use your car(s) less too.


Sure, use them less. I'm all for opublic transport. Also, with the development of new technologies - hybrids and EVs

But the fact is, we are all different people. We live in different countries. Some small and some massive. If you live on a huge continent, and wish to travel and camp out under the stars, then I am afraid there is always going to be a market for the big Raptors, DMAX, Landcruiser, F150, RAMs and Silverados.

What I don't like is when greenies get on their high horses and thumb their noses at people who drive such cars. These cars are just irreplaceable for the foreseeable future.

In addition, the carbon footprint on these cars is low and reducing as they build better engines.

You simply can't travel acoss Australia or the States in an EV.

As for small rectors. Do you mean Nuclear Power Plants? Yes there is a market for it but this isn't for every country, as the dangers of something going eerily wrong are present.

The best energy sources are Gas, Solar, Wind, and Hydro. Gas has to be there for baseload.

It seems like everyone is pointing fingers at ordinary people owning big cars, 4 by 4s all because they want to go fishing, or tow a van because it's bad for the environment.

But no one points fingers at luxury yacht and cruiser owners, or those who have their own personal jets.

The day will come when us plebs will be forbidden to have these cars. But the top 0.2% will not be forbidden from owning them or a private jet. They will do it from over taxing petroleum or putting massive tax and registration on them. It will lick most of us out but it won’t stop the rich. It’s a case of do as I say but not as I do.
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Re: Taking advantage of the latest CY car subsidy scheme…

Postby erolz66 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:21 am

Paphitis wrote:You simply can't travel acoss Australia or the States in an EV.


You simply can in the US.

https://cleantechnica.com/2020/06/30/yo ... y-america/
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Re: Taking advantage of the latest CY car subsidy scheme…

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:40 am

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:You simply can't travel acoss Australia or the States in an EV.


You simply can in the US.

https://cleantechnica.com/2020/06/30/yo ... y-america/


Sure.

If you are willing to wait for 15 to 25 minutes of charge time, and that's if the charging station is a super charger. And that gives you enough charge for 200 kms, so in under 2 hours another 15 to 25 minutes of charge if its a supercharger. And if it isn't, then charge time is about 8 hours.

But no towing capacity and no capacity to actually explore America offroad. And if you're in the Mid North, you are even more stuffed.

https://electrek.co/2021/11/03/how-long ... e-a-tesla/

the idea is good. And many people will buy them. So good luck with that one.

But after that one trip, a lot of people will sell them. :lol:

And back into a Silverado quick smart.
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Re: Taking advantage of the latest CY car subsidy scheme…

Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:41 am

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:You simply can't travel acoss Australia or the States in an EV.


You simply can in the US.

https://cleantechnica.com/2020/06/30/yo ... y-america/


Yes, it’s a bit like when Route 66 was built in the 1920’s as a direct route between Los Angeles and Chicago which many travelers used as it was very convenient with petrol station, motels and restaurants. Today, sadly it is mostly gone, but many still drive parts of it for nostalgic purposes because many now use the major Interstate network to travel and save time. In time, America will become fully EV all over the country to aid travelers much more efficiently. It will take some time to get some people out of their big SUVs, but it will happen eventually.
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