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[Lordo]

Talking of talent, here is a excellent actor/entertainer

[Paphitis]

Cinemas have been on the verge of bankruptcy here in Australia. Most have not been allowed to operate. This due to the pandemic of course.

But even then, we also have things like Netflix, Stan, HBO and Disney. The cinema is now in our living rooms.

And the Irishman is actually got the top spot on Netflix. It’s not surprising with the all star cast and it also appeals to the Scarface, Godfather and Goodfellas fans, such as myself. You can’t get better quality than this movie.

This movie won’t be losing any money. It’s a profit making venture and the producers will make millions in profit.

Before Netflix, they relied on the box office more. But today, I don’t think that’s even anywhere near as relevant as it use to be because of all the subscription services. They’ll make 159 million from Netflix alone in royalties.

I haven’t been to a cinema since the outbreak of Covid. So the landscape in cinematography has changed. Revenues at the box office would be a fraction of what they were pre Covid. And the box office now has the subscription services to compete with as well which would be cutting into their revenues even before Covid. The Americans know what the market is doing and how to exploit it and how to exploit the evolving landscape. Hence why they have Netflix. They own it and took us all down that road.

The industry they have there is by far the most advance. And it also has the largest market penetration by far. Exceeding anything by the French, Koreans and anyone else for that matter. The only other country that may enjoy similar penetration is not France, UK or Korea, but probably India. Maybe Bollywood can kind of come close in terms of market penetration but I can’t see anyone else competing with Hollywood. I know they are the second largest and growing at a rapid pace.

The Americans have a very tight grip across the globe. Also in Cyprus as well. The Americans rule the roost. All you have to do is ask Cypriot Youth what movies they watch and would like to see. 9 times out of 10, it’s American content. Not French, nor Korean nor British or Australian.

You obviously didn't read the link. Netflix bought the rights for 105 million. Do the remaining arithmetic yourself.

And what's all this blabber blabber about Netflix? For most of it's life it was buying low budget films, or ones that ceased showing. If Netflix is going to be the future, or the death of film making remains to be seen.

As for what kind of movies the Cypriot youth watch with their 850-1000 Euro salaries when they need 600 for rent alone, that's certainly not Netflix for the vast majority of them. Usually it's facebook and you tube laughing material .

They bought the rights for $105 million AND agreed to fund the making for $125 million.

125+105+ (1 to 7 box office IMBD says 1)=231-238
159 to 250 production + 90 Marketing=249-240.
==>Loss ranges from min 11 to max 110.


So the producers (Deniro) are sitting on a very tidy profit already. Therefore, it’s a fully owned Netflix production now and is being distributed to its subscribers.

And that’s another reason why they only show 8 million at the box office. Netflix probably wouldn’t allow it unless cinemas paid a big fee. Cinemas would be seen as competition for Netflix. So it would not come cheap.

I’m not sure who the original owners of the movie were. Deniro had his finger in the pie with others like 21st Century and so on who made 105 million from Netflix in profit minus their deductions and costs - bearing in mind Netflix also paid 125 million in producing the film.

So you do the math.

What does Netflix get out of it? It gets content and the last thing I saw is that Netflix makes a lot of profit as well.

Production was $159 million to the original owners.
Production cost was not $250 million.

Of which, Netflix agreed to buy for $105million, plus 125 million in production costs.

Marketing costs would also mostly be Netflix now. But even if you put marketing to the owners, there is still a big profit.

Do we know what money Netflix made from the film? They would have made money out of it but we don’t know how much. All we know is Netflix turns a profit every year to shareholders.

And what we do not know and never will know, is the revenue generated by Netflix as a result of this film.

When you have actors like Deniro, Al Pacino and Pesci, you have an unstoppable force.

Deniro and Al Pacino are my all time favourite actors and there are hundreds of millions of people who would agree all over the world.

[Paphitis]

Put it this way. You would have Netflix sink $230 million overall into the film if they believed the film was a dud.

Right now, the film is rated in the top 10 in Australia abs has been in the top 10 for months and even in the top stop for many months or weeks or whatever it is.

It is currently the most watch film in Australia for Netflix.

So Netflix is doing well from I can gather. Very well.

But Australia is little Ireland basically. So too America. So anything titled as The Irishman is bound to do well. But also because of Deniro, Al Pacino etc. The best duo in acting.

[Lordo]

This is not an investment thread or financial.What this is about decent films that actually cost minimal amount of money. A good film needs a decent director, a script and a few decent actors. It will shine.

Agit.

[Pyrpolizer]

Here is Suru....

I am going to watch this for sure. I made quick search and it looks it was quality film back in 1978.
The uploader was actually a Greek guy, that's why it has Greek subs too.

Finally watched it.
For a 1978 film, yes it was a quality film, passing to the audience lots of messages on social issues (rather leftist), blended in an interesting story line. Adding better cinematography, it would still make it at this age.

[Lordo]

Let me introduce you to another giant in Anatolian Culture.

[Oceanside50]

Nothing like a good Italian movie

https://youtu.be/Q3WJvaEjAlU

[Pyrpolizer]

Is it possible for a 6 hour Italian movie to get you fixed on the chair to watch it to the end?
Yes it is!!

La meglio gioventu - The Best of Youth
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0346336

[Pyrpolizer]

Nothing like a good Italian movie

https://youtu.be/Q3WJvaEjAlU

Like you said. Mediterraneo is a good film for passing your time.
I actually watched it, like I was watching nearly everything in the past. I then became selective...

[repulsewarrior]

...found one,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcEuT-m0_rk

Good film, cinematographically speaking.

...and this one,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58LGXUWb_FI

Funny.

...cheers!