Kikapu wrote:Maximus wrote:supporttheunderdog wrote:can somebody please remind me about who signed the deal with Taliban, set the schedule for the withdrawal and even stated that then Afghan Government was unable to support itself?
Mr Biden is just following on from what his immediate predecessor started.
I doubt the situation we are now seeing would have been better under trump, probably worse, and boy was trump brown-toungneing the taliban as has has done with so many who were inimical to the USA...
That is very good question STUD.
Let me see if I can provide a satisfactory answer for you.
The (Trump's) deal was that the US would withdraw from Afghanistan by the 1st of May.
IF
The Taliban negotiated a peace agreement with the Afghan government and IF they promised to prevented terrorist groups from using the country as a base.
We are now in August under Bidens watch.
Were or are both these conditions true?
I dont thinks so.
Then why did Biden withdraw from the country in August?
According to reports, Trump negotiated with the Taliban directly without the Afghan government reps being in the room, so we don’t know what Trump really agreed to since he lies all the time. Another report stated that Trump destroyed most of the documents on those Afghans who were meant to leave when we pulled out, so now we don’t have clarity who is meant to leave because almost all the Afghans wants to leave.
Trump would have done the same to the Afghans who had helped us in Afghanistan as he did to the YPG Kurds in Syria, who left them at the mercy of Erdogan. Trump is a cold motherfucker and would have left his own mother behind, just as he left his legal team behind to fend for themselves now who had pushed his big lie on the election. Paphitis is delusional if he thinks Trump would have send Troops back into Afghanistan because of the recent attack by ISIS. Afghanistan was a mess before we got there and it is going to be a mess while we leave and a mess after we leave. That’s how it ends when we go to places we have no business going to in the first place. I understand all the political grandstanding by the Banana Republicans which is all part of the blame game. Welcome to American politics.
Yes as Nax mentioned. The deal was in the table from Trump for a negotiated peace settlement where the Taliban would actually (ideally) join the Afghan Government and participate in Afghan society in a peaceful and constructive manner and where Afghanistan would be free from terrorism activities.
The sweetener for Afghans was the withdrawal of coalition troops.
It was definitely worth a try from the Americans.
You got to bear in mind that the coalition mission was the destruction of Al Qaeda and preventive Afghanistan from being a terrorist base.
None of the conditions that the Americans wanted under Trump have been met.
So would have Trump withdrawn from Afghanistan. Well that would have been unlikely. And if he did withdraw, can Trump accept such a humiliation? Probably even more unlikely.
But what we do know is what Biden did and is responsible for.
