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Re: Biden's lies or incompetence over Afghanistan

Postby Londonrake » Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:50 pm

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Re: Biden's lies or incompetence over Afghanistan

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:13 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Lordo wrote:The disaster was back when Bush boy decided to onvade the country, after 20 years they had to pull out sooner or later. They could have planned it better to get people who are going to be targetted out first but then again Americans have never been that good at planning.


Yet Paphis thinks it's Biden who does all the planning. :lol: :lol:
Lots of crazy journalists in Australia, dreaming of military parades with their allies. :mrgreen:


That’s what probably you think.

What we think in Australia is a genuine concern for the Afghani People.

We did complete our mission very early which was to destroy the capacity of Al Qaeda and others to conduct major international terrorism but our mission expanded and evolved after that. It’s called mission creep.

I am a firm supporter of the mission creep in so far as providing support to the Afghan People to rebuild their nation and to see them fully engaged globally, with women in schools and universities, the Afghan Cricket team playing Australia and to also see the smiles on the faces of children.

That’s what we think about in Australia. We think about that because over the 20 years, we have developed bonds and friendships in Afghanistan with the Afghan People.

You better believe Biden is behind this. He just snapped his fingers and it’s very clear there was no planning at all. None! In fact that withdrawal has to be the biggest failure EVER. And if you know that was on the cards, then a withdrawal would simply be unviable.
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Re: Biden's lies or incompetence over Afghanistan

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:21 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Secondly, even US is a corrupt country. Afghanistan is barely 20 years old. We had an obligation to help them nation build. All America had to do is send 25,000 troops. Another 25,000 will come from Australia, Canada, NZ, UK, France, Turkey, Greece, Spain, Italy, and more.


What’s wrong with that?

What do you think is the problem with a multinational force of 50,000 troops from many countries.

Australia has had Federal Police in Cyprus since 1963.

I actually think Australia should tell the Republic of Cyprus to fuck itself sideways, withdraw everything from Cyprus abd offer that support to the Afghan People who are more deserving of that support because Afghans are a better people and much smarter than Cypriots are.

Our Federal Police would have been better allocated to Afghan Police and helping them.

I mean if you want a laughing stick, look no further.

Agree?
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Re: Biden's lies or incompetence over Afghanistan

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:03 pm

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I am a firm supporter of the mission creep in so far as providing support to the Afghan People to rebuild their nation and to see them fully engaged globally, with women in schools and universities, the Afghan Cricket team playing Australia and to also see the smiles on the faces of children.



You need to see a doctor.


This was happening not long ago.(1985 in Mali.) All they needed was some food. The expenses for just one soldier per day in Afganistan could save the life of 100 of these.
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Re: Biden's lies or incompetence over Afghanistan

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:27 pm

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Paphitis wrote:
I am a firm supporter of the mission creep in so far as providing support to the Afghan People to rebuild their nation and to see them fully engaged globally, with women in schools and universities, the Afghan Cricket team playing Australia and to also see the smiles on the faces of children.



You need to see a doctor.


This was happening not long ago.(1985 in Mali.) All they needed was some food. The expenses for just one soldier per day in Afganistan could save the life of 100 of these.


I see a moron with zero compassion having a laugh at the expense of a people that have suffered.

And yet with all the suffering, I have never seen a people that is more kind, hard working, and who will be tomorrows rich, at least here in Australia.

And a people so rich in culture, music and wonderful food.

They are definately far beyond you Pyro. These people are going places. well the lucky ones who manage to get to America and Australia will go places.

The rest, under the Taliban, well, it's not going to be good...

Our soldiers, provided safetly for millions of Afghans over the last 20 years. We should have stayed another 10 or 20 years or for however long it takes until they are able to stand on their own feet. Otherwise, what the hell was the last 10 to 15 years of mission creep all about?
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Re: Biden's lies or incompetence over Afghanistan

Postby Maximus » Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:47 pm

its proven to be a big waste of time,

20 years was too long,

All that power and they couldnt eradicate the Taliban.
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Re: Biden's lies or incompetence over Afghanistan

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:53 pm

Maximus wrote:its proven to be a big waste of time,

20 years was too long,

All that power and they couldnt eradicate the Taliban.


When you are offering freedom to these people, it’s definitely no waste of time.

Not in my book at least.

Because it wouldn’t have taken much at all after what we all went through in the last 20 years. Just a small nominal force would have been more than enough.
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Re: Biden's lies or incompetence over Afghanistan

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:19 pm

Maximus wrote:its proven to be a big waste of time,

20 years was too long,

All that power and they couldnt eradicate the Taliban.


You can’t easily eradicate an enemy you can’t see. It takes time.
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Re: Biden's lies or incompetence over Afghanistan

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:48 pm

Paphitis wrote: We should have stayed another 10 or 20 years or for however long it takes until they are able to stand on their own feet. Otherwise, what the hell was the last 10 to 15 years of mission creep all about?
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Re: Biden's lies or incompetence over Afghanistan

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:37 pm

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Paphitis wrote: We should have stayed another 10 or 20 years or for however long it takes until they are able to stand on their own feet. Otherwise, what the hell was the last 10 to 15 years of mission creep all about?


It isn’t a laughing matter. In Cyprus, we have had Federal Police since 1963.

We can pull them out and save some dollars. I mean what’s it to Australia if 37% of Cyprus is occupied.

Here is a news flash for you. Australia doesn’t care about Cyprus.

It cares more about Turkey with its 85 million consumers of Australian produce and resources.

So if you want criminal behaviour and the condoning of international law violations, then that’s a fine example.

It’s time you understand exactly where you stand with Australia which is nowhere. Fact!

They do care more of Afghanistan, because unlike Cyprus, Afghanistan actually had a much brighter future with its immense resource wealth if we kept our troops there. And the Americans and Australians would have recouped then costs tenfold. Just through trade and cooperation.
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