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[Lordo]

It's clearly a satire and one of many on the same theme.

Nevertheless, the Biden cuts are genuine.

It's difficult to understand how anybody could listen to this sort of thing - when they actually manage to slip by the US media's embrace that is - and not acknowledge the man is obviously well past his sell by date.

His recent statements on the Afghanistan situation have shown him clearly, rigidly fixated on the autocue. As is usually the case - he took no questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNWjXYHz2u0

What a fucking disaster this man is.

The disaster was back when Bush boy decided to onvade the country, after 20 years they had to pull out sooner or later. They could have planned it better to get people who are going to be targetted out first but then again Americans have never been that good at planning.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-oct-01-mn-17288-story.html

[Paphitis]

Paphitis, the war in Vietnam was a losing war from the beginning just as Afghanistan was. Each of these wars had a President from both parties, but the end result was going to be the same whomever pulled the troops out. There never is an easier way out when you lose a war. If after 20 years the corrupt Afghan government could not build a stable government with 300,000 home trained troops, just how long do you want to retain 50,000 NATO troops in Afghanistan? The so called Afghan President left the country with tons of cash no doubt to save his own ass and left his people to fend for themselves. So far the Taliban is sending positive messages to all Afghans so let’s hope that they have reformed somewhat.

I'm so sorry Kikapu but there are no positive messages. None.

They are just playing it smart, waiting for the Americans to leave. Then all hell will break loose.

They already attacked Northern Alliance Afghans just north of Kabul, because they are seemingly forming a resistence with the former Government Officials and I also heard that the Afghan Deputy Prime Minister is there with them.

It's a total disgrace what the Coalition have done. It simply just can't be justified by any human being seeking law and order, human rights and justice.

You want to know something? If Biden comes back and clearly states he made a mistake and miscalculated, and then remobilized 50,000 US Troops, I will praise him. But is he such a leader or such a man? I doubt it.

As such, the man is unfit to be President and should resign immediately.

Americans will not forget this by 2024.

The Taliban had stated they are giving blanket amnesty to every Afghan, but if there are those who want to fight them including the former Vice President who has promoted himself as President, then they will be challenged and taken out. The west is willing to work with the Taliban as long as they are civil, no less, no more than Saudi Arabia. Biden is not going to send 50,000 troops back to Afghanistan just to babysit a corrupt system.

Biden is a total disaster.

Firstly, the West will not work with the Taliban, recognize them as a Government, have any form of diplomatic relationship with the terrorist organisation, or trade with Afghanistan at any level. That can never happen.

Australia removed its embassy in March.

Taliban is basically non existent to us similar to the trnc.

Secondly, even US is a corrupt country. Afghanistan is barely 20 years old. We had an obligation to help them nation build. All America had to do is send 25,000 troops. Another 25,000 will come from Australia, Canada, NZ, UK, France, Turkey, Greece, Spain, Italy, and more.

Anyway, Biden is finished now. For 5 years you all been trying to get Trump, and now look. Biden impeached within 6 months.

[Paphitis]

Ok News just in.

Taliban just shot an Australian Embassy interpreter as they were working towards an Australian military plane.

[Kikapu]

Paphitis, the war in Vietnam was a losing war from the beginning just as Afghanistan was. Each of these wars had a President from both parties, but the end result was going to be the same whomever pulled the troops out. There never is an easier way out when you lose a war. If after 20 years the corrupt Afghan government could not build a stable government with 300,000 home trained troops, just how long do you want to retain 50,000 NATO troops in Afghanistan? The so called Afghan President left the country with tons of cash no doubt to save his own ass and left his people to fend for themselves. So far the Taliban is sending positive messages to all Afghans so let’s hope that they have reformed somewhat.

I'm so sorry Kikapu but there are no positive messages. None.

They are just playing it smart, waiting for the Americans to leave. Then all hell will break loose.

They already attacked Northern Alliance Afghans just north of Kabul, because they are seemingly forming a resistence with the former Government Officials and I also heard that the Afghan Deputy Prime Minister is there with them.

It's a total disgrace what the Coalition have done. It simply just can't be justified by any human being seeking law and order, human rights and justice.

You want to know something? If Biden comes back and clearly states he made a mistake and miscalculated, and then remobilized 50,000 US Troops, I will praise him. But is he such a leader or such a man? I doubt it.

As such, the man is unfit to be President and should resign immediately.

Americans will not forget this by 2024.

The Taliban had stated they are giving blanket amnesty to every Afghan, but if there are those who want to fight them including the former Vice President who has promoted himself as President, then they will be challenged and taken out. The west is willing to work with the Taliban as long as they are civil, no less, no more than Saudi Arabia. Biden is not going to send 50,000 troops back to Afghanistan just to babysit a corrupt system.

Biden is a total disaster.

Firstly, the West will not work with the Taliban, recognize them as a Government, have any form of diplomatic relationship with the terrorist organisation, or trade with Afghanistan at any level. That can never happen.

Australia removed its embassy in March.

Taliban is basically non existent to us similar to the trnc.

Secondly, even US is a corrupt country. Afghanistan is barely 20 years old. We had an obligation to help them nation build. All America had to do is send 25,000 troops. Another 25,000 will come from Australia, Canada, NZ, UK, France, Turkey, Greece, Spain, Italy, and more.

Anyway, Biden is finished now. For 5 years you all been trying to get Trump, and now look. Biden impeached within 6 months.

I don’t know why you are ignoring the fact that Trump negotiated with the Taliban that the US and NATO would withdraw from Afghanistan. Secondly, Trump negotiated alone with the Taliban without the sitting Afghan government, so who knows what kind of deals Trump agreed to. My guess is to anything the Taliban wanted just to get the US out of the bottomless pit where money has been thrown at a corrupt Afghan government. Biden could have reversed Trump’s withdrawal agreementI suppose, but the US does not want to be in the Nation building business anymore.

All the money the US spent, and the 300,000 Afghan army just melted away as soon as the Taliban came and their president left town with tons of US tax payers money. All we did was to give the Taliban all the weapons that were given to the 300,000 Afghans. No doubt many of the 300,000 also support the Taliban for the reasons why they were able to take over the whole country virtually overnight.

Yes, I get the politics against Biden, however, your average American does not care what happens in Afghanistan, whether they sink or swim as there is no oil there and Osama Bin Laden is dead. The war is over for the Americans which is the reality for them, so it is time to leave just as we left Vietnam after losing 60,000 US personnel there, and now not only we recognize them, but we trade with them. Trump would have done the same thing as a businessman. So please, enough of the crocodile tears from the Banana Republicans about the welfare of the Afghans.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis, the war in Vietnam was a losing war from the beginning just as Afghanistan was. Each of these wars had a President from both parties, but the end result was going to be the same whomever pulled the troops out. There never is an easier way out when you lose a war. If after 20 years the corrupt Afghan government could not build a stable government with 300,000 home trained troops, just how long do you want to retain 50,000 NATO troops in Afghanistan? The so called Afghan President left the country with tons of cash no doubt to save his own ass and left his people to fend for themselves. So far the Taliban is sending positive messages to all Afghans so let’s hope that they have reformed somewhat.

I'm so sorry Kikapu but there are no positive messages. None.

They are just playing it smart, waiting for the Americans to leave. Then all hell will break loose.

They already attacked Northern Alliance Afghans just north of Kabul, because they are seemingly forming a resistence with the former Government Officials and I also heard that the Afghan Deputy Prime Minister is there with them.

It's a total disgrace what the Coalition have done. It simply just can't be justified by any human being seeking law and order, human rights and justice.

You want to know something? If Biden comes back and clearly states he made a mistake and miscalculated, and then remobilized 50,000 US Troops, I will praise him. But is he such a leader or such a man? I doubt it.

As such, the man is unfit to be President and should resign immediately.

Americans will not forget this by 2024.

The Taliban had stated they are giving blanket amnesty to every Afghan, but if there are those who want to fight them including the former Vice President who has promoted himself as President, then they will be challenged and taken out. The west is willing to work with the Taliban as long as they are civil, no less, no more than Saudi Arabia. Biden is not going to send 50,000 troops back to Afghanistan just to babysit a corrupt system.

Biden is a total disaster.

Firstly, the West will not work with the Taliban, recognize them as a Government, have any form of diplomatic relationship with the terrorist organisation, or trade with Afghanistan at any level. That can never happen.

Australia removed its embassy in March.

Taliban is basically non existent to us similar to the trnc.

Secondly, even US is a corrupt country. Afghanistan is barely 20 years old. We had an obligation to help them nation build. All America had to do is send 25,000 troops. Another 25,000 will come from Australia, Canada, NZ, UK, France, Turkey, Greece, Spain, Italy, and more.

Anyway, Biden is finished now. For 5 years you all been trying to get Trump, and now look. Biden impeached within 6 months.

I don’t know why you are ignoring the fact that Trump negotiated with the Taliban that the US and NATO would withdraw from Afghanistan. Secondly, Trump negotiated alone with the Taliban without the sitting Afghan government, so who knows what kind of deals Trump agreed to. My guess is to anything the Taliban wanted just to get the US out of the bottomless pit where money has been thrown at a corrupt Afghan government. Biden could have reversed Trump’s withdrawal agreementI suppose, but the US does not want to be in the Nation building business anymore.

All the money the US spent, and the 300,000 Afghan army just melted away as soon as the Taliban came and their president left town with tons of US tax payers money. All we did was to give the Taliban all the weapons that were given to the 300,000 Afghans. No doubt many of the 300,000 also support the Taliban for the reasons why they were able to take over the whole country virtually overnight.

Yes, I get the politics against Biden, however, your average American does not care what happens in Afghanistan, whether they sink or swim as there is no oil there and Osama Bin Laden is dead. The war is over for the Americans which is the reality for them, so it is time to leave just as we left Vietnam after losing 60,000 US personnel there, and now not only we recognize them, but we trade with them. Trump would have done the same thing as a businessman. So please, enough of the crocodile tears from the Banana Republicans about the welfare of the Afghans.

I'm not ignoring anything Kikapu.

Trump had a meeting with some Taliban in Doha, along with senior staff of the US Central Command. We do not know the details of the meeting.

What Trump did was standard. Not withstanding the fact that at the time, he sort some kind of peace settlement from them to ensure what we are witnessing today would not happen.

But either way, what is comming to fruition today under Biden is a total abomination to justice and an utter petrayal of the US Forces and allies as well as the Afghan People who do not want to live under Taliban rule. And as it appears to be the case, the Pentagon, US Security Agencies did advise Biden that this would happen, so the notion that it was unexpected is totally a lie. Australia, as I said, was aware of this several months ago and acted by commencing embassy closure procedures so that sensitive documents and Australian Symbols (Flags) do not fall into enemy hands. Staff were being evacuaed as early as march leaving only 196 people attached to the US Embassy.

As for the Afghan Security Forces. Details are emerging about that also. many of them have now joined the Northern Alliance. This is an old US Ally which we were supplying with arms when the Soveit union was occupying Afghanistan and they are in alliance with members of the US backed Afghan Government, including the Deputy prime minister. I don't know anything else other than there are elements of the old Northern Alliance forming some kind of cladestine rebel group which was enormously successful against the Soveit Union.

The US weapons are not a big deal. In the fullness of time, all that US equipment will be superfluous as the taliban will not be able to service the equipment as the US will obviously not support them. Sophisticated equipment will fall off the perch in days, or within weeks. Hummers and other armoured velicles will take a few months and then its back to their Toyota Hilux utes.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis, the war in Vietnam was a losing war from the beginning just as Afghanistan was. Each of these wars had a President from both parties, but the end result was going to be the same whomever pulled the troops out. There never is an easier way out when you lose a war. If after 20 years the corrupt Afghan government could not build a stable government with 300,000 home trained troops, just how long do you want to retain 50,000 NATO troops in Afghanistan? The so called Afghan President left the country with tons of cash no doubt to save his own ass and left his people to fend for themselves. So far the Taliban is sending positive messages to all Afghans so let’s hope that they have reformed somewhat.

I'm so sorry Kikapu but there are no positive messages. None.

They are just playing it smart, waiting for the Americans to leave. Then all hell will break loose.

They already attacked Northern Alliance Afghans just north of Kabul, because they are seemingly forming a resistence with the former Government Officials and I also heard that the Afghan Deputy Prime Minister is there with them.

It's a total disgrace what the Coalition have done. It simply just can't be justified by any human being seeking law and order, human rights and justice.

You want to know something? If Biden comes back and clearly states he made a mistake and miscalculated, and then remobilized 50,000 US Troops, I will praise him. But is he such a leader or such a man? I doubt it.

As such, the man is unfit to be President and should resign immediately.

Americans will not forget this by 2024.

The Taliban had stated they are giving blanket amnesty to every Afghan, but if there are those who want to fight them including the former Vice President who has promoted himself as President, then they will be challenged and taken out. The west is willing to work with the Taliban as long as they are civil, no less, no more than Saudi Arabia. Biden is not going to send 50,000 troops back to Afghanistan just to babysit a corrupt system.

Biden is a total disaster.

Firstly, the West will not work with the Taliban, recognize them as a Government, have any form of diplomatic relationship with the terrorist organisation, or trade with Afghanistan at any level. That can never happen.

Australia removed its embassy in March.

Taliban is basically non existent to us similar to the trnc.

Secondly, even US is a corrupt country. Afghanistan is barely 20 years old. We had an obligation to help them nation build. All America had to do is send 25,000 troops. Another 25,000 will come from Australia, Canada, NZ, UK, France, Turkey, Greece, Spain, Italy, and more.

Anyway, Biden is finished now. For 5 years you all been trying to get Trump, and now look. Biden impeached within 6 months.

I don’t know why you are ignoring the fact that Trump negotiated with the Taliban that the US and NATO would withdraw from Afghanistan. Secondly, Trump negotiated alone with the Taliban without the sitting Afghan government, so who knows what kind of deals Trump agreed to. My guess is to anything the Taliban wanted just to get the US out of the bottomless pit where money has been thrown at a corrupt Afghan government. Biden could have reversed Trump’s withdrawal agreementI suppose, but the US does not want to be in the Nation building business anymore.

All the money the US spent, and the 300,000 Afghan army just melted away as soon as the Taliban came and their president left town with tons of US tax payers money. All we did was to give the Taliban all the weapons that were given to the 300,000 Afghans. No doubt many of the 300,000 also support the Taliban for the reasons why they were able to take over the whole country virtually overnight.

Yes, I get the politics against Biden, however, your average American does not care what happens in Afghanistan, whether they sink or swim as there is no oil there and Osama Bin Laden is dead. The war is over for the Americans which is the reality for them, so it is time to leave just as we left Vietnam after losing 60,000 US personnel there, and now not only we recognize them, but we trade with them. Trump would have done the same thing as a businessman. So please, enough of the crocodile tears from the Banana Republicans about the welfare of the Afghans.

Additionally, all this could have been avoided with a nominal troop presence. 50,000 multinational troops from several countries. Even Greece and Turkey were prepared to supply 500 and 1000 troops respectfully. It would have been good also for both Greece and Turkey to operate militarily togather to build trust between them under a Central Command.

If the US wanted to, they could have also handed over command and control to another country - perhaps UK, France, Australia, or Canada.

In fact, that would have been prudent because it is very clear that Biden is incompetent. That the US, with such a leadership is incompetent. Biden has damaged his country and his actions are a complete disgrace. He should, as I said, resign. Perhaps under Article 25 of the US Constitution, or be impeached.

[Kikapu]

I had stated last year that Biden would not finish his first term, instead he would resign halfway through to allow Kamala to become the first woman president. Well, this Afghanistan situation will give him the perfect excuse to do just that rather than resigning because he is too old.

In the meantime, Afghanistan withdrawal is a done deal and there won’t be any going back even in Trump were to win in 2024, because he took us out himself to allow the Taliban to rule. End of!

[Paphitis]

I had stated last year that Biden would not finish his first term, instead he would resign halfway through to allow Kamala to become the first woman president. Well, this Afghanistan situation will give him the perfect excuse to do just that rather than resigning because he is too old.

In the meantime, Afghanistan withdrawal is a done deal and there won’t be any going back even in Trump were to win in 2024, because he took us out himself to allow the Taliban to rule. End of!

Camela has gone into hiding, and I am reading there is no turmoil within the Democrats, because even she doesn't want to be associated with Biden right now and has the knives out.

In fact, I am reading that Biden might be subject to an Article 25 dissmissal and impeachment, supported bipartisanly by many within the Democrat Party and GOP. Atm, I am hearing everyone wants Biden's head on a platter.

Don't ever say ever kikapu. If the coalition do decide to go back, the Taliban will run for hills once again. And, there are many people who believe that is not just necessary, but is an obligation.

Right now, we are waiting to see. The Taliban have already shot an Australian Consular Staff. That's strike 1.

Once we hear there is Al Qaeda or ISIL activity in Afghanistan, we will be back to sort them out. Only a matter of time.

[Pyrpolizer]

The disaster was back when Bush boy decided to onvade the country, after 20 years they had to pull out sooner or later. They could have planned it better to get people who are going to be targetted out first but then again Americans have never been that good at planning.

Yet Paphis thinks it's Biden who does all the planning.
Lots of crazy journalists in Australia, dreaming of military parades with their allies.

[Pyrpolizer]

Secondly, even US is a corrupt country. Afghanistan is barely 20 years old. We had an obligation to help them nation build. All America had to do is send 25,000 troops. Another 25,000 will come from Australia, Canada, NZ, UK, France, Turkey, Greece, Spain, Italy, and more.