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[Lordo]

You supported Biden, you got this....

You stupid boy, It was trump wh set the date to 1st of May. Idiot.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

[repulsewarrior]

...and it's pretty clear he was not prepared, to do what he said he'd do.

The 'master planner' has a lot of blame to take, Bush, Obama, and Biden are not blameless either; another State torn up, down to the Nations and their claim to a notion of Sovereignty.

...it is the Taliban that holds the cards. One hopes that such a hand will show their Grace, and that Sharia Law can demonstrate this tolerance, the universal Principals as Humans we all value.

...that in Civil Law their is Justice seen, as in Criminal Law, an absence of distinctions or discrimination, that everyone is equal to make of their lives as they see fit in Good Faith and Good Will.

I would not put much faith in these options as a gambling man; i am suggesting that they may have the acumen, now, to defend Afghanistan, as a State and an Emirate, just, and modest if you will.

...intentions count.

[Maximus]

You supported Biden, you got this....

You stupid boy, It was trump wh set the date to 1st of May. Idiot.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

Yeah I know, but that was over a year ago.

That is enough time to evacuate whoever and whatever needed to be evacuated before the military left.

Idiot.

[Kikapu]

You supported Biden, you got this....

You stupid boy, It was trump wh set the date to 1st of May. Idiot.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

Yeah I know, but that was over a year ago.

That is enough time to evacuate whoever and whatever needed to be evacuated before the military left.

Idiot.

The problem in setting dates of departure for the US and NATO troops from Afghanistan, they would need almost all of the Afghans who have been helping them to also stay until the end, which is what is happening now that everyone wants to leave at the same time which is not possible to do. Given the chance, most of the 38 million Afghans wants to leave regardless whether they had helped NATO troops or not, which is why the chaos we have seen at the airport. Simply put, how can you get rid of your car if you still need it until to the day you depart. You don’t. You keep it until the last day. There lies the problem for the Afghans trying to leave the country in the last minute, assuming of course that other countries would even want to take any of them. We have seen this movie before.

[Maximus]

Still, I think the Americans could have evacuated and should have evacuated whoever should have been evacuated before the military left.

These are their people we are talking about, you dont abandon them without security and safe passage.

Regardless, I am pretty confident the outcome would have been the same anyway.

Chaos, mainly from the civilian population.

This is not about evacuating all the civilians anyway. Tats is just absurd, most of these people dont have any right to get evacuated but they are adding to the chaos at the airport.

The Afghans need to take control of their country and get their shit together,

That is the bottom line

[Londonrake]

https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/08/22/turk ... ghan-road/

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[Paphitis]

...and it's pretty clear he was not prepared, to do what he said he'd do.

The 'master planner' has a lot of blame to take, Bush, Obama, and Biden are not blameless either; another State torn up, down to the Nations and their claim to a notion of Sovereignty.

...it is the Taliban that holds the cards. One hopes that such a hand will show their Grace, and that Sharia Law can demonstrate this tolerance, the universal Principals as Humans we all value.

...that in Civil Law their is Justice seen, as in Criminal Law, an absence of distinctions or discrimination, that everyone is equal to make of their lives as they see fit in Good Faith and Good Will.

I would not put much faith in these options as a gambling man; i am suggesting that they may have the acumen, now, to defend Afghanistan, as a State and an Emirate, just, and modest if you will.

...intentions count.

Trump would not have done it this way. never would Trump inflict so much embarrassment on himself or the US. Trump is all about winning. That's what drives him.

He would love to withdraw US Troops, and it's been a long time promise of his, but in such a scenario he probably would have sent his troops back into Kabul to secure the city (he would have done something) and re-evaluate the situation. Trump, just doesn't like losing, or losing face or embarrassing America. Surely, you know what makes Trump tick? He wrote a book about it.

Trump right now is very clearly in a state of dismay and disbelief. Like everyone else obviously. Including most of the Democrats who are turning on Biden.

This is clearly on Biden's watch.

[Paphitis]

The reality is that there are Afghans who have worked for us at our Embassies and Coalition Forces, and these individuals are being hunted down by the Taliban.

And I am sorry for being graphc, but some have already been executed, by gunshot or having their throats slit.

The whole thing about the military is to never leave anyone behind. Well, we are leaving people behind. The only way they can survive is to somehow hide their involvement with our diplomatic missions or military. But what generally happens is that other Afghans will betray them to the Taliban in order to carry favour and survive themselves.

[Paphitis]

Trump encapsulated it well just prior to the election and his behaviour immediately after the election.

Remember when he said, winning is easy. It's losing that is hard, especially for him?

[Paphitis]

You supported Biden, you got this....

You stupid boy, It was trump wh set the date to 1st of May. Idiot.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

Yeah I know, but that was over a year ago.

That is enough time to evacuate whoever and whatever needed to be evacuated before the military left.

Idiot.

The problem in setting dates of departure for the US and NATO troops from Afghanistan, they would need almost all of the Afghans who have been helping them to also stay until the end, which is what is happening now that everyone wants to leave at the same time which is not possible to do. Given the chance, most of the 38 million Afghans wants to leave regardless whether they had helped NATO troops or not, which is why the chaos we have seen at the airport. Simply put, how can you get rid of your car if you still need it until to the day you depart. You don’t. You keep it until the last day. There lies the problem for the Afghans trying to leave the country in the last minute, assuming of course that other countries would even want to take any of them. We have seen this movie before.

The way the Australian media have been reporting this locally.

There were a couple of Herc Flights. These carried a troop deployment which are still at Kabul as far as we know. Then these 2 flights evacuation some 200 people, mostly Australian Citizens and Afghans who worked for Australian Interests.

Then there were quite a number of Globemaster flights. There were 4 on one day. They have claimed that all their people of interest are out, but there are some claims still that there are some left behind.

Now, the evacuees are mostly humanitarian, and other Afghans who worked for other coalition countries. They areaiming to get 3000 people out.

Then they take them to Dubai where they recieve medical attention and are being processed by the Embassy there, before getting on other flights to Australia.