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[Lordo]

The recent discoveries of unmarked indigenous Canadian graves at residential schools had prompted calls for national celebrations to be called off.
Are they still celebrating?
Really?
To this day there are no records of crimes against the natives no matter how serious? This from a so called "democratic" country?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57693683

[repulsewarrior]

Canadians, at least, do not go through such a tragic discovery in denial, unlike the USA, or Turkey.

They are facing their own colonial past, without hesitation, in an effort to correct the wrong that Native people have suffered, and are suffering, without the country being torn apart, or as if it never happened.

BLM "spreading" is a misnomer, although as a sentiment it grows.

Indeed Canada's success like so many Occidental countries was founded on plunder, there is no point in making excuses, such things must change.

[Paphitis]

Canadians, at least, do not go through such a tragic discovery in denial, unlike the USA, or Turkey.

They are facing their own colonial past, without hesitation, in an effort to correct the wrong that Native people have suffered, and are suffering, without the country being torn apart, or as if it never happened.

BLM "spreading" is a misnomer, although as a sentiment it grows.

Indeed Canada's success like so many Occidental countries was founded on plunder, there is no point in making excuses, such things must change.

Why are you placing the USA along with the likes of Turkey.

The US has had its civil liberties movement way back in the 60s and is today, one of the most liberal countries on earth.

It’s actually quite insulting to comparing US to Turkey. They are not alike in any way.

[Paphitis]

The recent discoveries of unmarked indigenous Canadian graves at residential schools had prompted calls for national celebrations to be called off.
Are they still celebrating?
Really?
To this day there are no records of crimes against the natives no matter how serious? This from a so called "democratic" country?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57693683

Yes Canada has a lot to be celebrating.

Indigenous graves are found almost on a daily basis. Every time we dig to build something, we regularly find bones of indigenous people, some thousands of years old.

[Paphitis]

Canadians, at least, do not go through such a tragic discovery in denial, unlike the USA, or Turkey.

They are facing their own colonial past, without hesitation, in an effort to correct the wrong that Native people have suffered, and are suffering, without the country being torn apart, or as if it never happened.

BLM "spreading" is a misnomer, although as a sentiment it grows.

Indeed Canada's success like so many Occidental countries was founded on plunder, there is no point in making excuses, such things must change.

I see a lot of finger pointing to the US when perhaps they really don’t deserve it.

I’ll put it to you that the US is also far more liberal and with a stronger sense of social justice than Cypriots. There are laws that the enforced and there is a functioning country at all levels with great culture, institutions, universities and infrastructure.

I’m really astonished how you can compare to Turkey.

There are so many countries that deserve finger pointing a lot more. Turkey is one of them. Russia, China, North Morea, Saudi Arabia and we can go on and on.

In addition, America is a multicultural country that has opened its arms to migrants of all backgrounds and today you find the descendants of these migrants in all facets of their society and Government. Chalk and cheese to Turkey.

People like Lordo want to inflict a guilt trip on countries like these - his pick this week being Canada. Another terrific liberal country that has plenty to be proud of as one of the best countries on earth. Liberal, free, rich, strong, and a proud country.

Canadians today, like Americans, Australians, Kiwis have nothing to be ashamed of, we are all proud of our European Colonial history. Why should a few naked people with sticks and boomerangs stop the colonisation of these lands by Europeans. People need to get a grip really.

We are not guilty. Have nothing to be guilty about.

[Paphitis]

I put to all of you that Americans are about half as racist as Cypriots are.

Don’t believe me? You should.

Because from what I can see, Americans are far more accepting of Black people than you all think - to the point Blacks are employed at all levels, government, corporations, sports etc and the number of mixed marriages.

Oh yes! Imagine what would happen if a Cypriot Boy or Cypriot girl bought a black partner to introduce to their Cypriot parents. Do you think it will go well. Probably not!

Whereas Americans are use to this by now. And have far more liberal minds to allow them to cope with it too.

Just saying…

But everyone likes to point fingers. They don’t look at the reflection in the mirror to see that they are actually far more racist.

Seriously, Americans live in giant liberal mega cities like New York, Chicago, LA, Washington and these massive cities are just some out there liberal societies these days where every nationality, race or colour is intermingling, working and bonking peacefully. Life there would probably be quite an eye opener to the average Cypriot.

These are real cosmopolitan cities that never sleep people.

You can do what you want when you want. Total freedom people. And the police do not hinder you in any way regardless of whether you are white or black.

Gay people can kiss and hold hands on the streets. Most people won’t bat an eyelid. Can they do that in Cyprus? Probably not.

Half of you lot would be running to mummy if you spent 2 days in LA.

[Lordo]

Canadians, at least, do not go through such a tragic discovery in denial, unlike the USA, or Turkey.

They are facing their own colonial past, without hesitation, in an effort to correct the wrong that Native people have suffered, and are suffering, without the country being torn apart, or as if it never happened.

BLM "spreading" is a misnomer, although as a sentiment it grows.

Indeed Canada's success like so many Occidental countries was founded on plunder, there is no point in making excuses, such things must change.

I was not expecting that from you RW. What the fuck have I got to do with Turkey. I am not Turkish, I do not visit Turkey and I have never defended what they did.
WTF RW.

[repulsewarrior]

...do you think that my comment was directed at you Lordo; it was not my intention.

Indeed I include the US along with Turkey, when it comes to denial; what is BLM all about?

...as for finding bodies every day, in Canada it is an exaggeration but it is true; they are finding them because they are looking. Canadians are not hiding behind conspiracy theories:that is also something to think about.

[Paphitis]

...do you think that my comment was directed at you Lordo; it was not my intention.

Indeed I include the US along with Turkey, when it comes to denial; what is BLM all about?

...as for finding bodies every day, in Canada it is an exaggeration but it is true; they are finding them because they are looking. Canadians are not hiding behind conspiracy theories:that is also something to think about.

You are picking on the wrong country then RW.

The US is probably one of the least countries to have denial and they can prove it through their national parks and celebreation of their entire history, including native American.

There are 100 other counbtries you can pick before you even mention America.

[repulsewarrior]

...it's the leadership that we are expecting from America that is lacking; being the best and the biggest is as much a responsibility, as it is a benefit.

Indeed, America cannot demand from others change if they are unable to make these changes for themselves.

...and where but America are we, along with them, most hopeful that such change is possible?