Kikapu wrote:Lordo wrote:Kikapu wrote:It is fascinating to trace back to our origins of life, along with trying to understand things which we cannot see, but perhaps do exists all the same in the 3, 4, 5, 6+ dimensional world. Who is to say God did not create science and science created evolution? It is very easy to dismiss anything to which we cannot see, as things are only logical in our 3 dimensional world of the things which we can see or able to measure with instruments . As humans and individuals, we only occupy space on this Earth at most a little over 100 years. Each 1 million years in the future will generate at most 10,000 generations (one hell of a family tree) in our 3 dimensional world which we as humans and all living things will continue to evolve. To what exactly, no one knows.
Please do not ask what my point is in all this!
Can I knock this down in one move. if god existed he would be like a house builder. It would not throw bunch materials in the air and hope that they fall in the right way or at some point evolve to suit the purpose.
Evolution is not about some superior being controling what happens.
Lets give a good example in our time. Chernobyl explosion took place. What happened since then is fascinating. A lot of animals and plants died and some survived and actually thrived from the opened special opporotunity. Some crazy scientists eventually returned there with suitable protection and started growing vegitation for human consumption. Clearly he had to make sure anything he grew there was not poisoned by radiation and sure enough he did actually grow stuff there he could eat. In otherword they could filter radiation out of their system
So in this instance the Nuclear disaster created a bit of localised evolution as only plants and animals that are able to stand radion survived and the rest died. As this radiation will be there for thousands of years, clearly those able to stand it will thrive.
This is how evolution takes place. If it was not for the extinction if the T-rex and his kind , mammals would not have had a cat in hell chance of surviving on this earth as they were food.
Well, we don’t necessarily know what god is or that it had a master plan to create man in his own image. God may have created science and science created it’s own plan based on circumstances and conditions, hence evolution. God and Evolution can both exist together to answers everyone’s questions of our existence.
You hve to understand how the idea of god came to humanity. Fry explains it very clearly. He even wrote several bools on it. If mankind did not understand a volcano it was god of fire that was not pleased becasue people did not pray to him. Going back in history they even succrified people to p;ease their god. It is such sick thing to do. To this day muslims practice this but with a twist. They only sacrifice animals we would nor mally eat and are duty bound to give it to those who cannot afford to buy meat for free. Well that si the idea but in realty the whole village was given a piece.
God is for simple people who rather than deal with their issues they are encouraged to trust god and put the usual contribution in the church fund box. A church that is richer than most corporations in the world.
It is sick I tell you. Their followers are suffering whilst they live a life of luxury.