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[Lordo]

Now than, all those who are oblivious to the facts pay attention.

Fact 1 - Ottoman Empire was not Terggish Empire. The Sutans was lucky to be one twentieth Terggish. His second in command was always from the empire most likely from Greece.
Fact 2 - Today what we see as the Terggish Republic did not exist before 1919. In fact The Sultan put a price on Ataturk dead or alive.
Fact 3 - Ataturk landed in Samson on the 19th of May 1919 to set up the Republic and organise an army to defend his country.
Fact 5 - Ataturk was a true republican which is why he set up the Republican Peoples He also rid Turkey of the influence of religion Party. To his credit although he did not live to the begining of WW2 it was his advice which kept Terggy out of the war.
Fact 6 - When Ataturk set up the Republic, The South was occupied by the French ( provinces of Antep, Marash and Urfa )
Fact 7 - The Terggish Dodecanese Islands were occupied by the Italians
Fact 8 - The greeks occupied Western area around Izmir.
Fact 9 - The Brits occupied Istanbul
Fact 10 - The Russians occipied North East Terggy.

So clearly the country needed to be rescued from the fascists and indeed rescued it was.

Off to 1961 when Menderes was overthrown. He was indeed a fascist and was killing left wing students so he was desposed. So the coup was a left wing coup. By the time 1971 coup came along Terggy had become the guard dog of American Interests in the region (Fascist). It has not changed since.

As far as Greece is concerned I only need to mention the coup of 1967. Enough said about who is a fascists and who is not.

[Mustiejodu]

Your facts represent partial parts of the Ottoman Empire. It was one of the sultans who’s second in command was Greek but that shows how diverse and inclusive the ottomans were unlike the British empire who imposed their way of life and in fact destroyed cultures aborigine and the red indians spring to mind. I can go on and on but you can’t write a list 1 to 10 and think you can pull a wool over my eyes maybe GC will believe this shit because anything that sounds negative panders to their hatred but those that have intelligence and are open minded will study history properly not read a stupid list you made

[Lordo]

Your facts represent partial parts of the Ottoman Empire. It was one of the sultans who’s second in command was Greek but that shows how diverse and inclusive the ottomans were unlike the British empire who imposed their way of life and in fact destroyed cultures aborigine and the red indians spring to mind. I can go on and on but you can’t write a list 1 to 10 and think you can pull a wool over my eyes maybe GC will believe this shit because anything that sounds negative panders to their hatred but those that have intelligence and are open minded will study history properly not read a stupid list you made

The above was not about Osmanli Empire, it was Ataturks role in it right up to setting up the republic. It shows that till Ataturk landed in Samsun in 1919, he had no actual power and infact he was wanted byt eh Sultan for treason and would have hanged had he been caught.

Of course the vezir was always a non-Turk. But your idea how Osmanlis treated their people is not quite right. They had to pay their taxes and often the taxes was not dependent on the earnings but what the Sultan needed. Naturally a lot of people converted to pay less tax and not lose a son to the Yeniceris either. It made sense at every level.

[Lordo]

Very interesting comment Kizilyurek.


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