Lordo wrote:Maximus wrote:Did Turks conquer the area known today as Turkey by the sword Bordo?
640,000 civilans murdered and all you can say is that
Was this not genocide? Why do we never hear about this then?
Na fais do ghlossasou gavole.
It really depends on how far Turkey went to protect people.
Just because civilians died, doesn't mean a war crime was committed by the Greeks. There was a war. Civilians will be killed.
If the Greek Army bombarded a town where there were Turkish Soldiers, and some civilians died, well that's sad, but its not a war crime.
I'm sure Civilians died from the other allies in Galipoli and cape Hellas as well.
What was a fact is that was never a strategy of extermination and ethnic cleansing.
Rounding people up and killing them en masse or putting them through a Death March to certain death is a completely different kettle of fish than some civilians getting caught up as 2 armies go to battle.
There are many other examples. The Bombing of Dresden, The London Blitz, The Bombing of Darwin, Pearl Harbour, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and so on. Thousands of civilians killed, but no genocide.
The NAZI holocaust against Jews, Blacks, Homosexuals, Gypsies, Communists, and even Russians however is a war crime.
The Turkish exterminations of Armenians, Assyrians, Greeks also the exact same as the German Holocaust. Only difference is, the Turks were much less sophisticated in their systematic extermination of these people.
Greece also has the advantage of being on the right side of history since they fought with the allies against Germany, Hungary and Turkey. As such, the history books favour Greece and Greece is afforded certain protections by the allies - hence war reparations and the Ceding of territories over to Greece as a reward to Greece and punishment agaist Turkey.
It pays to be on the right side of history.
Greece again turked out to be on the right side of history in WW2. And that only helped Greece to form even better ties - especially with Australia and NZ. We have a long history of our soldiers fighting side by side and that can never be forgotten. They fought against evil and to defend Greece, unsuccessfuly initially but again, right side of history. Turkey, once again, wrong side of history.