Lordo wrote:Mankind will never learn. Those in power create the myths about themselves and then actually believe them.
If you look back in the last 50 odd years, no guerilla movement was defeated by taking out the leaders. Taking out the leaders are replaced by new leaders which are going to be more ferocious than the previous leaders and it goes on. Not only that but the killings are the best recruiting agent for the cause. It seems the British government did eventually learn this and sat down and talked. And of course peace was arrived at and IRA gave up the demand of full unification with Southern Ireland.
I know what you are going to say, but Hamas has no intention of talking.
Well first sit down and talk to them to see what they want. If you go by the rhetoric you will simply continue in the circle of violence.
I have an idea what they would accept.
1. Return to the 1948 borders
2. Allow the Palestinians who wish to return to their homes to return and compensate them to reset up their lives where they call home.
3. Compensate those who do not wish to return.
4. Recognise Palestine as an independent state in the UN with full rights in every respect
And then you shall have peace. Hamas will lose all its power if they do not accept such offer. The Question is does Israel want peace or just the whole of Palestine.
Some of us take sides. Others don't. They just want the TRUTH. I'm in the second category. That's because it's awful to see people suffer and be killed, both Israeli and Palestinian.
In a war, the first victim is always the TRUTH. We get propaganda from all sides.
Fact is, both sides are liable to committing atrocities. You close your eyes to that. But Hamaz is NOT innocent here. They are definitely committing war crimes by targeting civilian people and also using their own people as human shields. The Israelis are probably committing crimes as well.
What is important is trying to learn the truth.
I have come to the conclusion that in all wars, war crimes are committed. Whether from our guys, their guys or others. What is difficult to fathom is the strong fact that the Australian Military committed war crimes in Afghanistan. Not so much our regulars. I believe they were more or less above board. But our special forces (SAS and Commando regiments) executed captured combatants, even civilians, and in one case a 15 year old boy. So, I'm certain the Americans also committed crimes, the Brits as well, the French and so on and so on.
So it isn't inconceivable at all that the Israelis would do the same. And let's be realistic here now, and just understand that it happens in war. It shouldn't but it happens.
So obviously, warfare brings out the worst in people. And our special forces had an underlying culture for blood thirst. Maybe it's how the recruit such elite soldiers, similar to the type of guy you posted a video of, who was a hitman in the US. Militaries recruit people fitting that profile. Who knows? I'm no psychologist like that FBI guy.
But, it's nonetheless disappointing. Which I am sure is also equally disappointing if Israelis commit similar crimes, which inevitably, I think they probably would.
However, HAMAZ isn't innocent here. They targeted Israeli towns with rockets. So the IDF will inevitably respond. I man it isn't that hard to understand. If they are attacked, they will attack GAZA and go after HAMAZ militants.
So it's definitely no good pointing fingers at Israel alone here. Takes 2 to tango.
You posted a picture of an Israeli Soldier and a boy. You wanted to believe that the Israeli soldier did something bad to the boy. That may not be the case at all. And the face of the Israeli soldier was not in the photo. Just his gun. An obvious piece of propaganda as far as I'm concerned. Blatant piece of propaganda, painting a narrative which may not be true.
The boy could have been apprehended for throwing a couple of stones. He could have been apprehended to be removed from a violent scene. I seriously doubt any soldier will willfully go out of their way to hurt or kill the boy. They could have even given him treatment to his arm. For every single case of war crimes, there are thousands of humane acts committed by soldiers as well. In fact, humanity is everywhere, but always overlooked.
I mean seriously, it really is pointless hurting an 11 year old boy.
Having said that, Australian SAS executed a 15 year old boy. As I said, I am disgusted that this was done by my country and every Australian wants the soldiers responsible to feel the full brunt of the law. They will be charged with murder as a matter of fact, and face life imprisonment.
You need to stop taking sides and seek the TRUTH. Not look for photos and fill in the blanks yourself because that's what you want.
