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Re: Halloumi soon to be banned in Australia

Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:57 am

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:From all the reports I’m seeing is that the Australian Dairy Farmers fund the EU demands unnacceptable.

They are saying Halloumi, an animal product, is produced all over the world.

And, I wouldn’t be surprised if most Halloumi in Cyprus is imported.

Cypriots don’t want to make cheese or farm. Interferes with Frappe time. :lol:


:lol: Don't worry, we won't lose much sleep over what a bunch of Australian farmers think. We represent 16% of the world's economy...you don't count


16% of the world's economy? Come on, you represent nothing and what's more you are dependent on our resources.

Say hello Australia and Saudi Arabia. :lol:

The entire European car Industry is fucked without Australia. You'll have to print cars with 3D Printing. :lol:
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Re: Halloumi soon to be banned in Australia

Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:00 am

Maximus wrote:Maybe I am not fully up to speed on this,

But isn't Halloumi a trade mark.

Just like Nike make sneakers, it doesn't stop others from making sneakers,

The issue is if others make sneakers and try to sell them as Nike's or sell these sneakers under that trade mark.

Another example would be McDonald s. Anyone can sell burgers and french fries but you cant sell under their trade mark, or sell burgers and French fries made with the same ingredients.

Australian manufacturers of Cypriot cheese will have to comply with international trade mark, intellectual property and patent laws.

Or they will have to make their own style of Halloumi and call it something else. Like Cypriot style cheese.

Halloumi is trade marked and its ingredients are of protected status.

Correct me if I am wrong.


I think McDonalds are different. because they make their own style of burgers using their own meat patties made to their own speck etc etc.

halloumi is just a cheese.
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Re: Halloumi soon to be banned in Australia

Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:03 am

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Maximus wrote:Maybe I am not fully up to speed on this,

But isn't Halloumi a trade mark.

Just like Nike make sneakers, it doesn't stop others from making sneakers,

The issue is if others make sneakers and try to sell them as Nike's or sell these sneakers under that trade mark.

Another example would be McDonald s. Anyone can sell burgers and french fries but you cant sell under their trade mark, or sell burgers and French fries made with the same ingredients.

Australian manufacturers of Cypriot cheese will have to comply with international trade mark, intellectual property and patent laws.

Or they will have to make their own style of Halloumi and call it something else. Like Cypriot style cheese.

Halloumi is trade marked and its ingredients are of protected status.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Is Ouzo a trademark?

No but it’s a specific product made in a specific way, and originating from a specific place.

So to use the NOUN “Ouzo” (yes, it becomes a NOUN not a label) on the packaging one has to satisfy all the above criteria.


Really? So let me get this straight.

If Australia adopts Cyprus inferior Dairy practices, and yes they ARE inferior, then it's ok to use the word Halloumi.

I think Cyprus should adopt Australia's best practices. You might end upvwith better product. :lol:
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Re: Halloumi soon to be banned in Australia

Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:04 am

Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:Maybe I am not fully up to speed on this,

But isn't Halloumi a trade mark.

Just like Nike make sneakers, it doesn't stop others from making sneakers,

The issue is if others make sneakers and try to sell them as Nike's or sell these sneakers under that trade mark.

Another example would be McDonald s. Anyone can sell burgers and french fries but you cant sell under their trade mark, or sell burgers and French fries made with the same ingredients.

Australian manufacturers of Cypriot cheese will have to comply with international trade mark, intellectual property and patent laws.

Or they will have to make their own style of Halloumi and call it something else. Like Cypriot style cheese.

Halloumi is trade marked and its ingredients are of protected status.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Is Ouzo a trademark?

No but it’s a specific product made in a specific way, and originating from a specific place.

So to use the NOUN “Ouzo” (yes, it becomes a NOUN not a label) on the packaging one has to satisfy all the above criteria.

But the clue is in your answer,

Ouzo is not trade marked, nor does it have protected status.

It has protection because it is a recognized NOUN.

In essence, Halloumi has just become a recognized NOUN.

For example, take the description “3-wheeler”.

Can a vehicle with less than or more than 3 wheels be called a “3-wheeler”?

The answer is no, because everyone knows what to expect from a “3-wheeler” and they will not accept any product with less or more wheels to use that name.


Australia has a recognized NOUN too. Cunt's!

It's basically calling you all CUNTS after thumbing it's noses at you all. :lol:

Trade mark that!
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Re: Halloumi soon to be banned in Australia

Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:07 am

Maximus wrote:If the vehicle is being manufactured by a company calling themselves 3-wheeler,

Then no other company can manufacture vehicles and sell them as 3-wheeler.

but that doesnt stop other manufacturers creating 3 wheeled vehicles.

Unless a patent was granted to 3-wheeler that states that only they can make vehicles with only 3 wheels because it is their intellectual property.

do you get it now?


Yes it applies to technology most certainly.

You can't copy an IPhone and call it an Apple. But that doesn't stop anyone from making smart phones.

Halloumi is a bit different. It comes from a goat. It's curdled (?) or pasteurized (?) and made into Halloumi. That's it.

Australian farmers milk their goats, send it to where it's got to go, and from there it's turned into cheese and other products and then it ends up on supermarket shelves.

A bit like Australian made speghetti
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Re: Halloumi soon to be banned in Australia

Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:13 am

Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:If the vehicle is being manufactured by a company calling themselves 3-wheeler,

Then no other company can manufacture vehicles and sell them as 3-wheeler.

but that doesnt stop other manufacturers creating 3 wheeled vehicles.

Unless a patent was granted to 3-wheeler that states that only they can make vehicles with only 3 wheels because it is their intellectual property.

do you get it now?

You're talking about trademarks while I was talking about patents.


It looks like every country is free to determine its own status.

The UK revoked any trademark to Cyprus and henceforth can make Halloumi.

Australia never recognized any trade mark or patent on Halloumi and henceforth the EU has no jurisdiction or power to do anything about it.

https://legal-patent.com/international- ... ection-uk/

Looks like it's all ridgy didge. :lol:
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Re: Halloumi soon to be banned in Australia

Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:25 am

Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:If the vehicle is being manufactured by a company calling themselves 3-wheeler,

Then no other company can manufacture vehicles and sell them as 3-wheeler.

but that doesnt stop other manufacturers creating 3 wheeled vehicles.

Unless a patent was granted to 3-wheeler that states that only they can make vehicles with only 3 wheels because it is their intellectual property.

do you get it now?

You're talking about trademarks while I was talking about patents.


I was talking about trade marks and patents and intellectual property from the beginning.


The argument from Australia is that Halloumi is a generic name for a product that originates from an animal. It has no geographic indicators as it's also made in other countries.

They are also saying that Cypriot producers do not have any knowledge on the manufacture of the cheese that makes it unique. It;'s just a name given to a rubbery style of cheese from goats or sheep that can be grilled. Nothing unique about it they say.
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Re: Halloumi soon to be banned in Australia

Postby DT. » Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:19 am

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:If the vehicle is being manufactured by a company calling themselves 3-wheeler,

Then no other company can manufacture vehicles and sell them as 3-wheeler.

but that doesnt stop other manufacturers creating 3 wheeled vehicles.

Unless a patent was granted to 3-wheeler that states that only they can make vehicles with only 3 wheels because it is their intellectual property.

do you get it now?

You're talking about trademarks while I was talking about patents.


It looks like every country is free to determine its own status.

The UK revoked any trademark to Cyprus and henceforth can make Halloumi.

Australia never recognized any trade mark or patent on Halloumi and henceforth the EU has no jurisdiction or power to do anything about it.

https://legal-patent.com/international- ... ection-uk/

Looks like it's all ridgy didge. :lol:


Silly goose... that was 2018


https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/sourcing/cy ... 65.article

Trademark alive and well today

No more halloumi for you matey unless it’s made in Cyprus the proper way that only our farmers can do. 8)
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Re: Halloumi soon to be banned in Australia

Postby Maximus » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:01 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:Maybe I am not fully up to speed on this,

But isn't Halloumi a trade mark.

Just like Nike make sneakers, it doesn't stop others from making sneakers,

The issue is if others make sneakers and try to sell them as Nike's or sell these sneakers under that trade mark.

Another example would be McDonald s. Anyone can sell burgers and french fries but you cant sell under their trade mark, or sell burgers and French fries made with the same ingredients.

Australian manufacturers of Cypriot cheese will have to comply with international trade mark, intellectual property and patent laws.

Or they will have to make their own style of Halloumi and call it something else. Like Cypriot style cheese.

Halloumi is trade marked and its ingredients are of protected status.

Correct me if I am wrong.


I think McDonalds are different. because they make their own style of burgers using their own meat patties made to their own speck etc etc.

halloumi is just a cheese.


Mcdonalds is just cut potatoes and minced meet put in buns with pickles, cheese, onion and sauce,. yes it is their own style.

So, how is this different to Halloumi cheese?

Halloumi is its own style of cheese too.
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Re: Halloumi soon to be banned in Australia

Postby Maximus » Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:05 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:If the vehicle is being manufactured by a company calling themselves 3-wheeler,

Then no other company can manufacture vehicles and sell them as 3-wheeler.

but that doesnt stop other manufacturers creating 3 wheeled vehicles.

Unless a patent was granted to 3-wheeler that states that only they can make vehicles with only 3 wheels because it is their intellectual property.

do you get it now?

You're talking about trademarks while I was talking about patents.


I was talking about trade marks and patents and intellectual property from the beginning.


The argument from Australia is that Halloumi is a generic name for a product that originates from an animal. It has no geographic indicators as it's also made in other countries.

They are also saying that Cypriot producers do not have any knowledge on the manufacture of the cheese that makes it unique. It;'s just a name given to a rubbery style of cheese from goats or sheep that can be grilled. Nothing unique about it they say.


Cheese is a generic name,

Halloumi is a name for a very specific style of cheese.
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