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[Paphitis]

Melbourne has gone into lock down again.

but this time, there is a twist.

If you are vaccinated, then you don't have to stay home. If not, you are in lock down.

This is how the vaccine will be pushed on people. Then, there is the vaccine passport. And travel restrictions. Restrictions on your employment too.

These are not measures I like, but I can't do anything about them. So I will be having the vaccine. Seems pointless to be giving up on life, work (my work which I dearly love so much) and traveling around the world.

The only issue I have really is with Astra zeneca. Australia has had about 24 blood clot victims, and 2 have died. So the vaccine itself, has killed more people ij Australia than COVID has in the last 3 odd months. That's mind boggling.

The good news is, you are allowed to refuse Astra Zeneca, and wait for Pfizer. Australia has already started to administer Pfizer but it will be widely available soon enough.

It has been a bit of a mess. And the other good thing is, that I can get my vaccine from the US Consulate and that willk be Pfizer.

[Get Real!]

And secondly, Australia has had to big Covid waves. The first was when temperatures will still in the 30s the second was in Melbourne but in the middle of winter.

Australia’s seasons/temperatures are always the opposite to most of the rest of the planet which would explain why their infections and deaths plummeted to almost non-existent levels, but now that winter is approaching brace yourselves…

And it was only a few short weeks ago Cyprus was getting 800 odd cases a day. India is virtually sub tropical and is in dire trouble from Covid.

No doubt you must’ve heard about India’s recent plight due to the surge of infections and deaths… and if you’re an avid reader you will have also read about India’s version of a covid-19 vaccine released sometime last year, although it probably didn’t circulate outside of India.

Now here’s a little conundrum for you to solve…

Have a guess where the so-called “Indian strain” of Covid-19, came from!

Now apply the same logic for all other vaccines that have circulated around the world... and you have a nice array of strains working hard infecting people!

What the planet of clowns doesn’t seem to understand is that a non-natural virus cannot be defeated via natural methodologies such as herd/vaccine immunities… all they are achieving is the exacerbation of the problem!

[Paphitis]

And secondly, Australia has had to big Covid waves. The first was when temperatures will still in the 30s the second was in Melbourne but in the middle of winter.

Australia’s seasons/temperatures are always the opposite to most of the rest of the planet which would explain why their infections and deaths plummeted to almost non-existent levels, but now that winter is approaching brace yourselves…

And it was only a few short weeks ago Cyprus was getting 800 odd cases a day. India is virtually sub tropical and is in dire trouble from Covid.

No doubt you must’ve heard about India’s recent plight due to the surge of infections and deaths… and if you’re an avid reader you will have also read about India’s version of a covid-19 vaccine released sometime last year, although it probably didn’t circulate outside of India.

Now here’s a little conundrum for you to solve…

Have a guess where the so-called “Indian strain” of Covid-19, came from!

Now apply the same logic for all other vaccines that have circulated around the world... and you have a nice array of strains working hard infecting people!

What the planet of clowns doesn’t seem to understand is that a non-natural virus cannot be defeated via natural methodologies such as herd/vaccine immunities… all they are achieving is the exacerbation of the problem!

True. I understand COVID is constantly evolving into different strains.

From what I have read, these current vaccines will only be effective for about 6 months. After that, we will need another version of the same vaccines to combat the other more evolved strains.

And even when vaccinated, you can still get COVID - hopefully with reduced symptoms and a much lesser chance of dieing from it.

I don't believe the experts and Pharma companies have ever said that this vaccine will mean the end of COVID or stop you from getting it.

It'sd just a measure to help the world come to terms with COVID, like we have with Influenza, and lead a normal life without restrictions and the like.

[Kikapu]

My gripe with the vaccination is, and having had it already, I am still required to take a Covid test if I want to fly abroad and also upon returning, costing time, effort and money. So the question begs to be asked is, if being vaccinated is not safe to travel without Covid test, why would it be safe to be in my home country? Where is the vaccinations benefit I ask?

[Londonrake]

My gripe with the vaccination is, and having had it already, I am still required to take a Covid test if I want to fly abroad and also upon returning, costing time, effort and money. So the question begs to be asked is, if being vaccinated is not safe to travel without Covid test, why would it be safe to be in my home country? Where is the vaccinations benefit I ask?

My understand is that it stops you dying. Which, to me, has always been a strong selling point.

[Kikapu]

My gripe with the vaccination is, and having had it already, I am still required to take a Covid test if I want to fly abroad and also upon returning, costing time, effort and money. So the question begs to be asked is, if being vaccinated is not safe to travel without Covid test, why would it be safe to be in my home country? Where is the vaccinations benefit I ask?

My understand is that it stops you dying. Which, to me, has always been a strong selling point.

Yes, that is a good selling point if in fact it does, because it does not prevent getting Covid 100%. I guess it is fair to say that ALL the results are not in yet.

Ok, let’s say vaccination does stop people dying from Covid and that is great, so why the need for the Covid Test in order to travel abroad and back home again?

Friends whom are vaccinated in recent month have driven from Switzerland twice to their second home in France, to which they needed to take the Covid test both direction since some regions of France are at high risk but not the region where their home is, which does not require to be quarantined in Switzerland upon their return.

I understand that unless ALL are vaccinated, this trend will continue, but what if not ALL want to be vaccinated?

[Paphitis]

My gripe with the vaccination is, and having had it already, I am still required to take a Covid test if I want to fly abroad and also upon returning, costing time, effort and money. So the question begs to be asked is, if being vaccinated is not safe to travel without Covid test, why would it be safe to be in my home country? Where is the vaccinations benefit I ask?

My understand is that it stops you dying. Which, to me, has always been a strong selling point.

Yes a very strong selling point.

[Paphitis]

My gripe with the vaccination is, and having had it already, I am still required to take a Covid test if I want to fly abroad and also upon returning, costing time, effort and money. So the question begs to be asked is, if being vaccinated is not safe to travel without Covid test, why would it be safe to be in my home country? Where is the vaccinations benefit I ask?

My understand is that it stops you dying. Which, to me, has always been a strong selling point.

Yes, that is a good selling point if in fact it does, because it does not prevent getting Covid 100%. I guess it is fair to say that ALL the results are not in yet.

Ok, let’s say vaccination does stop people dying from Covid and that is great, so why the need for the Covid Test in order to travel abroad and back home again?

Friends whom are vaccinated in recent month have driven from Switzerland twice to their second home in France, to which they needed to take the Covid test both direction since some regions of France are at high risk but not the region where their home is, which does not require to be quarantined in Switzerland upon their return.

I understand that unless ALL are vaccinated, this trend will continue, but what if not ALL want to be vaccinated?

I guess it’s because you can still get Covid and transmit it to others who are not vaccinated yet. Who could in fact also die.

[Kikapu]

My gripe with the vaccination is, and having had it already, I am still required to take a Covid test if I want to fly abroad and also upon returning, costing time, effort and money. So the question begs to be asked is, if being vaccinated is not safe to travel without Covid test, why would it be safe to be in my home country? Where is the vaccinations benefit I ask?

My understand is that it stops you dying. Which, to me, has always been a strong selling point.

Yes, that is a good selling point if in fact it does, because it does not prevent getting Covid 100%. I guess it is fair to say that ALL the results are not in yet.

Ok, let’s say vaccination does stop people dying from Covid and that is great, so why the need for the Covid Test in order to travel abroad and back home again?

Friends whom are vaccinated in recent month have driven from Switzerland twice to their second home in France, to which they needed to take the Covid test both direction since some regions of France are at high risk but not the region where their home is, which does not require to be quarantined in Switzerland upon their return.

I understand that unless ALL are vaccinated, this trend will continue, but what if not ALL want to be vaccinated?

I guess it’s because you can still get Covid and transmit it to others who are not vaccinated yet. Who could in fact also die.

I get all that. My point is, unless everyone is vaccinated, Covid tests will continue for those who would like to travel abroad. Now, what are the chances of everyone getting vaccinated? Not much. My friends paid close to 800 Swiss Francs in 4 Covid tests for two people for two trips to France and back by car this month.

[Lordo]

It is true that we have no way of knowing here in the UK what the effect of vaccination has been because we are still in lock down. And coming out of lockdown leading into summer will not prove anything either. The real proof is going to be September and October. If the cases start going up, than that is not so bad so long as deaths do not follow in the same trend and hospitals are not overrun . At least the deaths will be at normal levels with other viruses and the vaccination has helped. But if the reverse happens then we will know that we took part in a very large scale experiment which has failed.