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[Paphiti]

My 5 cents for what it`s worth,
1 - The island of cyprus is in a key position for what is expected to take place in the future.English , USA , TURKISH are all the same.Look where all the trouble is ( IRAQ , ISRAEL , LEBANON , IRAN ETC )
2 - We are orthodox !!!!!!
we will suffer to the end !!!!!!!

[kythrea]

I just got around to reading some of the responses to my original post.

The reason that information which sheds light on historical events is important in relation to solving the Cyprus problem today is because those events (or a version of them) are used by the Turkish government to justify its ongoing occupation of Cyprus (especially the supposed threat to the Turkish-Cypriot community from the Greek-Cypriot community).

If it can be demonstrated that there were in fact other aims underpinning Turkey's invasion (eg strategic/expansionist aims on the part of Turkey and/or other countries) then one of the major arguments put forward by Turkey for maintaining a military presence in Cyprus today can be set aside.

I thought people would find the documentary I mentioned of particular interest because it is from a non-Greek source, and therefore can avoid accusations of pro-Greek bias.

oh and just for the record, I am not anti-British, anti-American, anti-Capitalist, anti-Muslim, or anti-Turkish. Any criticism I make of a particular government or policy is not and should not be taken as a slur on an entire race or nation of people, OK ? so please stop accusing me of being anti-whatever – it’s a cheap shot. I'm sure plenty of other people who have been accused of similar on this forum feel the same.

[macketterry]

I just got around to reading some of the responses to my original post.

The reason that information which sheds light on historical events is important in relation to solving the Cyprus problem today is because those events (or a version of them) are used by the Turkish government to justify its ongoing occupation of Cyprus (especially the supposed threat to the Turkish-Cypriot community from the Greek-Cypriot community).

If it can be demonstrated that there were in fact other aims underpinning Turkey's invasion (eg strategic/expansionist aims on the part of Turkey and/or other countries) then one of the major arguments put forward by Turkey for maintaining a military presence in Cyprus today can be set aside.

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So what if you can prove that Turkey's reasons for being in Cyprus are strategic and not purely altruistic?

You've just discovered that that's the way the real world works and getting excited about discovering it is a bit like a child learning about the birds and the bees. So well done but it won't change anything. The powerful dominate the weak and the sooner Greek Cypriots learn to work with Turkey the sooner they will free themselves from their crazy hellenic nationalism - end of lesson.

[Michael]

I just got around to reading some of the responses to my original post.

The reason that information which sheds light on historical events is important in relation to solving the Cyprus problem today is because those events (or a version of them) are used by the Turkish government to justify its ongoing occupation of Cyprus (especially the supposed threat to the Turkish-Cypriot community from the Greek-Cypriot community).

If it can be demonstrated that there were in fact other aims underpinning Turkey's invasion (eg strategic/expansionist aims on the part of Turkey and/or other countries) then one of the major arguments put forward by Turkey for maintaining a military presence in Cyprus today can be set aside.

I thought people would find the documentary I mentioned of particular interest because it is from a non-Greek source, and therefore can avoid accusations of pro-Greek bias.

oh and just for the record, I am not anti-British, anti-American, anti-Capitalist, anti-Muslim, or anti-Turkish. Any criticism I make of a particular government or policy is not and should not be taken as a slur on an entire race or nation of people, OK ? so please stop accusing me of being anti-whatever – it’s a cheap shot. I'm sure plenty of other people who have been accused of similar on this forum feel the same.

Although not exactly a revelation. The British have always regarded Cyprus as a fixed aircraft carrier. They are completely untrustworthy in any negotiations. They would sell this whole country the down the river for a minor political advantage. My view is to keep these people at arms length. History has shown them to be poor friends.

[Piratis]

The powerful dominate the weak and the sooner Greek Cypriots learn to work with Turkey the sooner they will free themselves from their crazy hellenic nationalism - end of lesson.

We don't have any "crazy hellenic nationalism". What we have is a foreign occupation of part of our country and the natural anger as a result.

The powerful dominate the weak, sure. However be certain that the more arrogant you become and the more people you piss off, the more sleep you will loose because you will not know if the airplane you are flying with will land on the building your wife works, or if you will be blown up in the bus or the underground. Would that make you feel powerful?

[macketterry]

The powerful dominate the weak and the sooner Greek Cypriots learn to work with Turkey the sooner they will free themselves from their crazy hellenic nationalism - end of lesson.

We don't have any "crazy hellenic nationalism". What we have is a foreign occupation of part of our country and the natural anger as a result.

The powerful dominate the weak, sure. However be certain that the more arrogant you become and the more people you piss off, the more sleep you will loose because you will not know if the airplane you are flying with will land on the building your wife works, or if you will be blown up in the bus or the underground. Would that make you feel powerful?

So you say that Hellenic nationalism is not crazy and then you warn that it could be capable of doing what crazy, intolerant muslim zealots do? Come on man, this whole sorry Cyprus episode needs to be put to bed once and for all. The world's powers are not with you in your futile ethnic squabble. If your leaders had half a brain they would negotiate for the best possible compromise instead of gambling everything on a horse with odds of
100-1 against it. Your whole population except maybe 10% seem to be in a state of denial. Your media live in a total fantasy world and blatantly toe the nationalists' line. There is almost no space for dissent. You are on a collision course with reality and the sooner it happens the better it will be for your health.

[Piratis]

What I am saying is that the arrogance of the new colonialists (US) and their pets (UK/Turkey) will sooner or later bring them down crashing like it happened with all the other empires before them.

Do you live in a Greek Cypriot property that was stolen from us in 1974 macketterry? This is why you want us to take "lessons" from you? No my friend, we will hunt people like you down in every way possible. Supporting the violation of our human rights was the mistake of your life. I hope you are really old and you will die soon to avoid what will follow.

[rolo]

(especially the supposed threat to the Turkish-Cypriot community from the Greek-Cypriot community).


Supposed threat??????????????????????

Crazy Hellenic Nationalism?????????????



then can you please tell us what the then leader of both the Greek Cypriot Orthodox Church, and the first President of The Republic of Cyprus implied when he said::

“Independence was not the aim of the EOKA struggle. Foreign factors have prevented the achievement of the national goal, but this should not be a cause for sorrow, New bastions have been conquered and from these bastions the Greek Cypriots will march on to complete the final victory.” - Makarios, August 16, 1974



I suppose these views have now been modified.


Why?

[Lala_Mustafa_Pasha]

You guys are so paranoid,

ITS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE ISNT IT

[macketterry]

What I am saying is that the arrogance of the new colonialists (US) and their pets (UK/Turkey) will sooner or later bring them down crashing like it happened with all the other empires before them.

Do you live in a Greek Cypriot property that was stolen from us in 1974 macketterry? This is why you want us to take "lessons" from you? No my friend, we will hunt people like you down in every way possible. Supporting the violation of our human rights was the mistake of your life. I hope you are really old and you will die soon to avoid what will follow.

My God, you are nuts. Have you ever used Larnaca airport? That belongs to a Turkish Cypriot, you immoral scumbag. People like you should be hunted down until all TCs get their human rights.

Why don't you devote your life to an attainable goal instead of a deluded pipe dream that eats you up with bitterness. What a waste of a life.