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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:22 pm

miltiades wrote:We've got the message stupid

You are not.just a pilot but a multimillionaire developer.
Any more loans recently ?????
Your stupidity is incomparable.
UK .....independence day. Look stupid just concentrate on flying jumbo jets and multi million loans. :lol:


Listen old fart, I have my fingers in some pies but I never stated I was a multi millionaire. I just do alright but I work for it too and have a bit going on. I’ve never been busier actually. Because I got a lot more time to focus on it as well.

You are the stupid idiot for making utterly stupid claims like when you tried to convince people that I said a liability is an asset. A liability isn’t an asset. It’s definitely a liability. But the liability can be used to buy an asset as most people buying a house do the very same thing when they have a mortgage. Do that liability also creates an asset for that person or entity. Your children may have done something similar when they took out a mortgage to buy a home. Otherwise, they pay rent and I can tell you they are better paying a bank instalment than pay rent because they are building equity in their asset.

Do you get it? Yes or no?

Do you agree that debt isn’t a bad thing when it’s used to buy things like a house or a rental property or to operate a business etc? As long as it’s manageable...
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby erolz66 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:16 pm

Four years of political turmoil and divisive polarisation, economic turmoil, loss of rights, reduced value in sterling all to get back what we have now proven we had all along anyway. Sovereignty. Sorry but does not seem like much of a deal to me.
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Kikapu » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:39 pm

erolz66 wrote:Four years of political turmoil and divisive polarisation, economic turmoil, loss of rights, reduced value in sterling all to get back what we have now proven we had all along anyway. Sovereignty. Sorry but does not seem like much of a deal to me.

EU seems to be more concerned about the UK watering down Labour laws after Brexit than Boris is, which is why Boris is bitching about sovereignty rights blah blah blah, because he wants to water down UK’s Labour laws and also have free market with the EU, so that he can have an advantage over the EU, which the EU said, “on your bike, Boris”. We will have a level playing field and should you water down your Labour laws, then we will impose duty on your goods. :D

The Brexiteers will get fucked by their own UK government after Brexit. They would deserve it, unfortunately the rest will get fucked also in the UK. For so long British workers were protected by the EU, but now, their fate will be in the hands of the UK government, and not a very promising one either, especially with the Covid pandemic which seems to be getting out of control in the UK. Talk about fate, more like talk about the perfect storm of economic disaster for the UK and her citizens. Well, at least they got their “sovereignty” back with ALL the foreigners to remain in the UK still. :D
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Kikapu » Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:03 pm

Now the Brexit deal is done. Next is to read the details! :D

Reading Boris’s face, it leads me to believe the EU got the better deal of the two! :wink:
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Londonrake » Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:31 pm

Last twitches of the Remainer corpse.

Naive, I know. :D
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Kikapu » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:14 pm

Londonrake wrote:Last twitches of the Remainer corpse.

Naive, I know. :D

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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:22 am

Kikapu wrote:
erolz66 wrote:Four years of political turmoil and divisive polarisation, economic turmoil, loss of rights, reduced value in sterling all to get back what we have now proven we had all along anyway. Sovereignty. Sorry but does not seem like much of a deal to me.

EU seems to be more concerned about the UK watering down Labour laws after Brexit than Boris is, which is why Boris is bitching about sovereignty rights blah blah blah, because he wants to water down UK’s Labour laws and also have free market with the EU, so that he can have an advantage over the EU, which the EU said, “on your bike, Boris”. We will have a level playing field and should you water down your Labour laws, then we will impose duty on your goods. :D

The Brexiteers will get fucked by their own UK government after Brexit. They would deserve it, unfortunately the rest will get fucked also in the UK. For so long British workers were protected by the EU, but now, their fate will be in the hands of the UK government, and not a very promising one either, especially with the Covid pandemic which seems to be getting out of control in the UK. Talk about fate, more like talk about the perfect storm of economic disaster for the UK and her citizens. Well, at least they got their “sovereignty” back with ALL the foreigners to remain in the UK still. :D


And since when should the EU have any input on any friggin laws or internal matters of the UK?

And haha, the EU is like panicking right now because Boris is all too happy to be on him is bike. Be called them out and dealt them the death blow.

Good riddance EU.

Soon, the UK will have a union with 3 of the best countries in the world. They are leaving a bunch of dysfunctional and almost bankrupt bananas for 3 dynamos which are in Switzerland’s league no less. :wink:
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:52 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
erolz66 wrote:Four years of political turmoil and divisive polarisation, economic turmoil, loss of rights, reduced value in sterling all to get back what we have now proven we had all along anyway. Sovereignty. Sorry but does not seem like much of a deal to me.

EU seems to be more concerned about the UK watering down Labour laws after Brexit than Boris is, which is why Boris is bitching about sovereignty rights blah blah blah, because he wants to water down UK’s Labour laws and also have free market with the EU, so that he can have an advantage over the EU, which the EU said, “on your bike, Boris”. We will have a level playing field and should you water down your Labour laws, then we will impose duty on your goods. :D

The Brexiteers will get fucked by their own UK government after Brexit. They would deserve it, unfortunately the rest will get fucked also in the UK. For so long British workers were protected by the EU, but now, their fate will be in the hands of the UK government, and not a very promising one either, especially with the Covid pandemic which seems to be getting out of control in the UK. Talk about fate, more like talk about the perfect storm of economic disaster for the UK and her citizens. Well, at least they got their “sovereignty” back with ALL the foreigners to remain in the UK still. :D


And since when should the EU have any input on any friggin laws or internal matters of the UK?

And haha, the EU is like panicking right now because Boris is all too happy to be on him is bike. Be called them out and dealt them the death blow.

Good riddance EU.

Soon, the UK will have a union with 3 of the best countries in the world. They are leaving a bunch of dysfunctional and almost bankrupt bananas for 3 dynamos which are in Switzerland’s league no less. :wink:


So the UK knew all along that it could not have a hard Brexit and funny enough, so did the EU, so Boris accepted the deal based on EU’s terms, which means that, the UK government will not be able to make laws which would tilt the level playing field to it’s advantage, as far as tariffs free goods going to the EU goes. Like it or not, the UK is very much still tied to the EU, but at a lesser advantages than while U.K. was a member of the EU. If the UK believed they had a very strong hand, they would have walked away from the EU with a hard Brexit a year ago and gone with the WTO tariffs based economy with the EU, to which the UK could have passed any kinds of laws they wanted. That would have been the true exit from the EU and a truly taking back their sovereignty. Sorry Paphitis, but the UK did not gain their independence from the EU, hence the fact there won’t be any Independence parade happening anytime soon. :wink:
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:03 am

Oh dear dear, sounds like there’s going to be a lot of unhappy people in paradise......I mean, the UK! :lol:

Reuters
Brexiteer Farage says UK will be too closely aligned to EU

Thu, December 24, 2020, 11:05 AM GMT+1

LONDON (Reuters) - Brexit campaigner Nigel Farage said on Thursday that he suspected the United Kingdom would remain far too closely aligned to the European Union's rules after Prime Minister Boris Johnson clinches a trade deal.

"Winning a war is one thing, winning peace is another: I suspect we are going to find ourselves far too closely aligned to EU rules in the years to come," Farage told Talk Radio.

Watch: UK agrees a post-Brexit trade deal with EU

He said he hoped "this is the beginning of the end of the European Union," according to a Talk Radio transcript.

"Hey, is [the deal] better than where we were five years ago? Yes, it is. Is it good enough to allow us to become Singapore, the really dynamic booming economy? No," Farage said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/brexiteer-fa ... 58771.html
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Re: Countdown to British Independence Day

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:54 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
erolz66 wrote:Four years of political turmoil and divisive polarisation, economic turmoil, loss of rights, reduced value in sterling all to get back what we have now proven we had all along anyway. Sovereignty. Sorry but does not seem like much of a deal to me.

EU seems to be more concerned about the UK watering down Labour laws after Brexit than Boris is, which is why Boris is bitching about sovereignty rights blah blah blah, because he wants to water down UK’s Labour laws and also have free market with the EU, so that he can have an advantage over the EU, which the EU said, “on your bike, Boris”. We will have a level playing field and should you water down your Labour laws, then we will impose duty on your goods. :D

The Brexiteers will get fucked by their own UK government after Brexit. They would deserve it, unfortunately the rest will get fucked also in the UK. For so long British workers were protected by the EU, but now, their fate will be in the hands of the UK government, and not a very promising one either, especially with the Covid pandemic which seems to be getting out of control in the UK. Talk about fate, more like talk about the perfect storm of economic disaster for the UK and her citizens. Well, at least they got their “sovereignty” back with ALL the foreigners to remain in the UK still. :D


And since when should the EU have any input on any friggin laws or internal matters of the UK?

And haha, the EU is like panicking right now because Boris is all too happy to be on him is bike. Be called them out and dealt them the death blow.

Good riddance EU.

Soon, the UK will have a union with 3 of the best countries in the world. They are leaving a bunch of dysfunctional and almost bankrupt bananas for 3 dynamos which are in Switzerland’s league no less. :wink:


So the UK knew all along that it could not have a hard Brexit and funny enough, so did the EU, so Boris accepted the deal based on EU’s terms, which means that, the UK government will not be able to make laws which would tilt the level playing field to it’s advantage, as far as tariffs free goods going to the EU goes. Like it or not, the UK is very much still tied to the EU, but at a lesser advantages than while U.K. was a member of the EU. If the UK believed they had a very strong hand, they would have walked away from the EU with a hard Brexit a year ago and gone with the WTO tariffs based economy with the EU, to which the UK could have passed any kinds of laws they wanted. That would have been the true exit from the EU and a truly taking back their sovereignty. Sorry Paphitis, but the UK did not gain their independence from the EU, hence the fact there won’t be any Independence parade happening anytime soon. :wink:


What nonsense. It looks like the UK got what it wants - a complete free trade deal with the EU.

But it will no longer be in the EU, or under the EU courts or future laws. New custom laws will be introduced.

And EU access to British fisheries will expire in 5.5 years.

All the EU got was their ability to revoke free trade if the UK decides to skew the “level playing field”. Which is to be expected.

Basically UK can do what it wants but could risk the free trade if the EU decide too.

So basically, UK is free from the EU clutches!

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.abc ... e/13013814

Congratulations Boris! You did it. You won! :D
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