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[fideld]

Yeah, you're nobodys lap dog right? I can tell. I have a special talent that helps me detect the subtle, almost invisible undercurrents and tones on anybody's posting.I had to work particularly hard on yours but i think i've grasped the basic under-narritive. I know, I know, you probably don't believe i could pick up on such a subtle message but i did all the same.
Yet one more part time bar room phillosopher Brit Bashing. Get over it mate. So we got a plot of land, where else do you think we're supposed to put all our troops? We allready billet most of them in the bars and pubs all along the beach. Where else can they go? Go on, be a sport, don't kick them out. Some of them have got families !! Have a heart.

HeyVEX,
I am nobodys lap dog. I am a Greek cypriot. Keep your talent for the pubs, you are good for that. Actually you are the best around the world for bars and pubs, but always leave the car home, you cannot take too much alcohol...I should tell you where you can put your troops, as you ask me, but being polite, I will tell you that this is your problem. After all, who do you british think you are, that you should have troops controlling the area? We can definately do without you "mate" Families can travel, England is nice, lots of pubs etc. The problem "mate" are those who were forced to leave their homes by the turkish troops, with the help and support of the british. This is our problem and not where you should put your troops!!

[cypezokyli]

Why should we continue to recognise that Treaty when nobody else seems to

bc we are supposed to represent legality... remember ?

I CAN SAY WITH ALL HONESTY, THAT ANYONE WHO DOES NOT THINK THAT BRITAIN HAD A MAJOR ROLE IN SPLITTING CYPRUS, OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT GOT A CLUE ABOUT THE ISSUE AND YOU HAVE NOT CONSIDERED EVEN THE MOST BASIC HISTORICAL EVIDENCE.

congratulations. have you heard of the phrase :bravo... anakalypses ti tashinopita!! now with the capital letters its even more evident than it was before.
just out of curiosity, what do you thing we can learn from what the english did to us? would you say we are paying for their divide and rule policies? reading your posts i am not sure if we can deal with the english bc we are still devided with the tcs did ever occur to you that by fighting with the tcs you are just playing the game that they want you to play ? and even worse, 50 years ago the cypriots couldnt possible know...but now WE DO!!!!.....and we continue. make an attempt to unite and perhaps we will have a chance.

My point in raising this issue was shouldn't we at least put some diplomatic pressure on Britain

how are WE going to put diplomatic pressure on Britain?
do you have an idea?
perhaps we could bring the matter in UNSC...but oops Britain is a permanent member, it can veto all decisions.
HOW?


btw, you didnt tell us how we are going to punish greece for the breach of the agreements. i dont see you active on the matter. everybody guilty should pay the price..... except ofcource of ourselves

[Simon]

It is the same old crap from you and it is getting boring.

bc we are supposed to represent legality... remember ?

You obviously still dont understand my point do you. Do I have to break everything down for you? If none of the signitories abide by a legal agreement, then I think you'll find that agreement is pretty irrelevant and therefore is not legal anymore. Where is the legality that the other nations have stuck to?

did ever occur to you that by fighting with the tcs you are just playing the game that they want you to play ?

No, I think that would be giving the TCs everything, like what a coward like you wants to do. All I demand is justice through proportionality. If anyone tries to deny me this, then I will go against them. That includes you.

how are WE going to put diplomatic pressure on Britain?

There are 101 ways you can do this, use your own imagination. Simple press releases regarding the necessities of such bases could be a start. Demanding payment for them could further re-invigorate the debate. We are a member of the EU now, and no member state should have huge sovereign bases in another's country. So talking about this in EU circles could also put pressure on Britain, before we could possibly invite them to formal talks. See, I'm not saying use drastic measures, but slowly, slowly we may get somewhere. Bringing Britain before a UNSC would be a last resort and I believe this will certainly not be necessary. You are forgetting that Britain has already offered one of the bases back to us, so why are you making out that what I am asking is such an unrealistic demand. Simply negotiating with Britain, that if we accept a solution, you must give up the sovereign status of the bases I think could work. This is again another typical over reaction by you to a simple topical issue. I think you need to get a hobby.

btw, you didnt tell us how we are going to punish greece for the breach of the agreements. i dont see you active on the matter. everybody guilty should pay the price..... except ofcource of ourselves

Who's mentioned punishing? This is again your own illusion. Getting back our land from the British is not about punishing them. And the last bit is a complete joke, considering GCs have been punished for over 30 years. We have been punished more than anyone you idiot and the sooner you get this into your head the better.

[Sotos]

They can't close the bases as they have never been part of the Republic Of Cyprus..

I though the era of colonial rulers was over

[cypezokyli]

You obviously still dont understand my point do you. Do I have to break everything down for you? If none of the signitories abide by a legal agreement, then I think you'll find that agreement is pretty irrelevant and therefore is not legal anymore. Where is the legality that the other nations have stuck to?

you obviously dont understand mine as well.
we cannot declare the treaties of 1960 as non-existance bc YOU believe that britain did not do its part of the agreement. the reason is not the influence that it would have on the british bases situation, the reason is the effect that this is going to have on the cyprus problem. our whole strategy is based on the fact that we represent the RoC. if we decided to brake from those agreements, then there is no RoC. i hope i made my self clear.

No, I think that would be giving the TCs everything, like what a coward like you wants to do.

yet another e-brave comment
only the future will show who will give more to the tcs.

Simple press releases regarding the necessities of such bases could be a start.Demanding payment for them could further re-invigorate the debate.

all the best
you may begin

We are a member of the EU now, and no member state should have huge sovereign bases in another's country

yet another normative statement...

we are members of the EU now...do you remember the phrace of scirac : papaqui..? it was the answer he gave when they told him that pap is creating problems in the new deal found with turkey. he answered : papawho.. ? remember many brave of us wanted to put a veto on that famous 17 dec. i wonder why we didnt...
talking about it in the EU circles...assuming that there is a single EU MP who takes seriously mad-sakis.

You are forgetting that Britain has already offered one of the bases back to us, so why are you making out that what I am asking is such an unrealistic demand. Simply negotiating with Britain, that if we accept a solution, you must give up the sovereign status of the bases I think could work.

finally a small verse with some sense in it.
IF we accept a solution. so it is clear where we should direct our focus.
and if this whole thread was about getting the base only in tha case of a solution, i dont get the point. they already offered that and you want to convince them about it!!! that would be a real vistory

I think you need to get a hobby. Laughing

traditional dances and music. whats yours ?
try it. you might learn a couple of things. traditional dances, costumes, and customs, are real a counter argument to nationalism.

We have been punished more than anyone you idiot and the sooner you get this into your head the better.

chill out

[Simon]

all the best
you may begin

I think we need our gov to do that, not me.

finally a small verse with some sense in it.
IF we accept a solution. so it is clear where we should direct our focus.
and if this whole thread was about getting the base only in tha case of a solution, i dont get the point. they already offered that and you want to convince them about it!!! that would be a real vistory

I want them to give up both. Not just offer one. Although, one would be a start.

chill out

Just letting you know the truth.