no simon, but it can come up with an annoucement of the type : we strictly warn all of our citizens, that there exists a severe anti-british climate in cyprus. as simple as that.
I am talking about trying to open talks with Britain about the bases aswell, as part of the problem. I'm not talking about cutting off all diplomatic relations, or becoming extremely hostile to the extent that they have to warn citizens. Indeed, they already offered us one of the bases, in the Annan Plan, this shows that Britain has involved it in the issue and also shows that Britain are prepared to give one back. So why not talk to them about it? To warn citizens not to come here, they would have to have a solid foundation for this, as the media scrutiny in the UK is immense, they would NEVER be able to do it just because two governments have a disagreement. For example, Jack Straw has already had quite bad protests against him when he came to Cyprus, but did you here any British official saying that citizens should not come now because of this? Once again, your logic is ridiculous.
expecting from britain to save our asses, and when they dont we just cry and complain...but see, you have signed those agreements. why didnt you keep your signiture?
and as bg_turk have said, i dont see you wanting to stop diplomatic relations with greece bc they didnot keep their part of the agreement.
I have said, we also breached it. But you must understand what the Treaty says. If what you are saying to me is that everyone has breached it and therefore it no longer exists in any form; then we have no legal obligation to recognise the bases then do we?
ok. britain is responsible for the partition.
britain did not keep its word.
britain did not fullfill its obligations
Not totally responsible, but yes, they were largely responsible. If you do not believe this, then I strongly, strongly, strongly advise you to read the excellent book by William Mallinson, A Modern History Cyprus, published in 2005. It is an excellent book - I think he is English of American himself, and he has detailed evidence about just the role Britain played, and how Greece were screwed over by Britain over the years.
lets assume we take the arms and we take the f****ing british out of cyprus. britain doesnot reply militarily, but instead starts direct trade with the north. as the past has shown they dont really give a shit about agreements. then ...suddenly....we got the land of the british bases back (where there are no refuggees) and we lost all the rest.
why the hell not?
i mean our target will be achieved. we are going to make those british pay.
Where has all this come from? I'm merely talking about putting some diplomatic pressure on them, as a part of the wider Cyprus problem, of which Britain is involved. I think you have jumped the gun, thinking I want to start some war against them! If you thought this, all I can say is, don't be so stupid. I am commenting on us opening talks, not trying to kill them.
the organisation who represents international peace and security has send an invitation for starting negotiations. thats the important stuff on the cyprus problem. not the bases.
I agree, it is important. But like I said, do not lose the sight of the fact that Cyprus is actually divided three ways. And in resolving the Cyprus problem, all I am saying is that it would be good to sort out the bases issue aswell.
Don't get so uptight. I've just raised this as a side issue and wondered what people's thoughts were. I believe it is also a part of the wider problem. I was just wondering whether people thought that if we accepted a Plan, would Britain would give up one of the bases (which it has already offered) but also considerably cut the other one, or at least make it non-sovereign. Why do you always try and make out that I'm some sort of extremist who wants to go to war with everyone?
