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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Lordo » Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:44 pm

Kikapu wrote:This is how presidential candidates should give meaningful speeches, therefore, RFK gets my vote regardless if he is now supporting Trump for president over Harris, because of the way he has been treated by the Democrats and their policies past and going forward for the country. His Intentions to drop out of the presidential race in the 10 battleground states may well help Trump get elected as President, then so be it, if the Democratic party he belongs to gives him the boot, which they have!




Surely this is a matter of principle. If the Democrats do not select him then he must suck it up and wait his turn. Take a leaf out of Corbyn's book. He did not go and join Reform or Tory party or even the Liberal party because he was kicked out of the Labour Party. He stood his ground and won his seat back as an independent. But this cunt actually offered his support for job in the administration to both sides. So not so clear how the Democrats treated him badly, clearly he did not have the support of the Democrats because what he has been saying in the past about migration and environment. Calling him a whore is an insult to all whores. Aligning with Trump to me is unforgivable. I suspect his father is turning in his grave.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Lordo » Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:56 pm

This gives you an idea what he is about. After claiming both parties are corrupt which is true then offers them his support for a job is all you need to know about him.

I am not sure if that is his voice or he is suffering some sort of throat infection but he will not win talking the way he does no matter what his policies are.

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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Lordo » Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:44 pm

So if Kennedy Jnr switches sides does it mean those supporting him will do the same? Considering his support is from Democrats, I suspect his supporters will be horrified by his actions and vote Democrat anyway. Even if only half vote for him, he is in effect negated.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:54 am

Lordo wrote:
Kikapu wrote:This is how presidential candidates should give meaningful speeches, therefore, RFK gets my vote regardless if he is now supporting Trump for president over Harris, because of the way he has been treated by the Democrats and their policies past and going forward for the country. His Intentions to drop out of the presidential race in the 10 battleground states may well help Trump get elected as President, then so be it, if the Democratic party he belongs to gives him the boot, which they have!




Surely this is a matter of principle. If the Democrats do not select him then he must suck it up and wait his turn. Take a leaf out of Corbyn's book. He did not go and join Reform or Tory party or even the Liberal party because he was kicked out of the Labour Party. He stood his ground and won his seat back as an independent. But this cunt actually offered his support for job in the administration to both sides. So not so clear how the Democrats treated him badly, clearly he did not have the support of the Democrats because what he has been saying in the past about migration and environment. Calling him a whore is an insult to all whores. Aligning with Trump to me is unforgivable. I suspect his father is turning in his grave.

That’s the whole problem. Democrats should not have to select a candidate if they believe in a democratic system. Instead, they should allow the candidates to be voted on by the voters at primaries. RFK was not supported by the Democratic Party during the primaries. He was not even given any secret service protection as an Independent presidential candidate. When Biden dropped out, which by the way, it appears to be contrived to allow Harris to replace him without any other Democrat to take his place except for Harris, even without a single vote for her. More and more, it appears that the debate between Biden and Trump was staged for Biden to do very poorly so that Harris can replace him in the late stages towards the elections so to keep other Democrats out and give Harris a cover as long as possible away from the presidential spotlight because she is not a good candidate. RFK would have been a much better candidate for the Democrats if he was allowed to have an equal platform. Therefore, whatever RFK does now, it is a fair game, whether his supporters follow him or not by him now endorsing Trump. Many might if Trump gives him a cabinet post!

Welcome to America’s corrupt politics. :evil:
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Lordo » Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:06 pm

I do not see how Democrats are being corrupt. The rule is the sitting President gets aromatically selected to run for the second term. Once Biden pulled out then the selection of Harris was not automatic, she had to be voted on by the delegates at the convention. There was also talk at that point that if neither Biden or Harris is not on the ticket, all the money collected for election could not be used where as if Harris was selected the money collected previously could be used.

I do not buy the idea that Biden did this deliberately to stop anybody else standing, the old boy wanted a second shot at it and it took a lot of persuasion to get him to drop out.

But I do agree with you, the democratic system used in America was suitable back in the 1800, and it has no place in todays world. While the smaller states need a system that gives them more say, they can be given that when selecting Senators and Representatives. The Candidates can be selected through direct voting and so can the Presidency.

Add to that it really makes no difference who wins between the two parties, the polices are identical both internally and externally.

Indeed welcome to the best Democracy in the world money can buy.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:06 am

Very interesting video by Mark Levin on “How to kill Democracy” and more about the US elections and on Trump and Harris.

I think he is spot on on most of the things he has talked about.


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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Lordo » Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:22 pm

What is so striking is his lack of understanding. I don't think the Democrats have ever been in control of all arms of the government ever where as the Republicans have. What he is talking about is the American System of democracy and yet he blames it on the Democrats. He even quoted something Trump said despite Trump being the most demented, irresponsible selfish and greedy excuse for a human being.
We had the same here, when once Johnson took over he blamed the Judges, Lawyers and finally the MPs for not voting what he wanted to do. Unfortunately Democracies all over are exactly the same. About 10 corporations in America control all forms of government all over the world with the exception of a few government that stood against them.

Media is used to make people think they are thinking for themselves but in fact following their own narrative. Look what they have done to the Labour Party today. What Labour was 5 years ago and what it has become now. They have also lost half of the members too but that is not a worry to Starmerites because the corporations have stepped in and are financing them.

Interestingly I rang up LBC last night to talk about energy prices and how it is a scam the way they calculate the prices using the most expensive commodity which is gas. All I was going to suggest that in the interest of education the public, he should have some specialists who can explain to him what is going on. I was told I am not allowed to say that. According the producer, the conversation was the withdrawal of the 300 pounds from all the pensioners except those on pension credit. Nothing else was allowed except the politics behind that. But don't worry we have a fully democratic media. Without democratic media there is no democracy which is why the few corporations control the whole of the media in UK.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Lordo » Mon Aug 26, 2024 7:16 pm

Very interesting indeed
In late February 2019, former Maine governor Paul LePage, a Republican, went on a local radio show to talk politics. The topic of abolishing the Electoral College came up, and LePage essentially freaked out. A national popular vote for president, LePage said, would be tantamount to turning America into a “dictatorship,” and the types of people voting would prefer “the constitution of Venezuela” to that of the United States.

So you see it is not just democrats, the republicans are the same shit in the control of the same corporations. At least with the Democrats the officials elected have some brains where as the Republicans going all the way to Nixon and beyond were thick as shit.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/conservative-excuses-for-preventing-everyone-from-voting-opinion/ar-AA1prP0m?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=a7f1f042b2614b6eaf054c6223506aa5&ei=20
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Lordo » Fri Aug 30, 2024 3:07 pm

If Tramp is looking after people with wealth, and Harris is looking after the middle class, who is looking after the working class in America. Or is it that there is no working class in America?
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