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[Paphitis]

I was at a lunch and speaking to someone who shall remain nameless. They are in politics. They said, COVID is going to ravage the world for the next 5 years.

I had no idea some politicians could set virus departure dates!

What I want to know from the politician is, what happens after 5 years!

He doesn’t know. It’s just speculation. He mentioned Spanish Flu and said that lasted for 3 years. Virus like these die out naturally over time when the human body builds some immunity to it.

So he was alluding to herd immunity.

But he also mentioned the virus won’t work. Usually when vaccines are introduced, a virus will keep changing its DNA and become more resistant and aggressive.

He said the world is in for a rough 5 years. We will be too in Australia but we are a lot more lucky in that at worst case scenario we can keep our border closed and come out in relatively much better shape. So in other words, Australia and NZ is the place to be.

[Paphitis]

For the next 5 years ?? Fuck that mate, is your source a member of the scientific world or ....Trump supporter ??

He is a Trump supporter too.

Like most of the Australian Government are. Our Federal Government was very close to Trump.

And yes, they prefer him over Biden about 10 fold.

The reasons why they liked Trump was over the Paris Agreement. Australia is one of the rebels that refuses to ratify. They won’t be signing any further accords.

So pleased that PRESIDENT Biden will rejoin the Paris agreement as well as the WHO. Australia , regardkess of what you may think, is irrelevant to the world as it mostly inhabited by English descendants of criminals !!: Not a place for me mate, I do have very very close relatives living there but they are of solid Cypriot breed, from Paphos mainly with one or two exemptions. I have neve4 be3n there and would not wish to either. Its full of fucking criminals and ....Kangaroos, also I dont like Australian beer or fucking ....cricket . Long live the WEST, Cyprus much much longer. The only true Paradise on earth and close to the rest of Europe.

It isn’t irrelevant.

Australia is one of the biggest energy and raw material traders globally.

It’s right next to Saudi Arabia in that regard.

And it seems it doesn’t want to play ball.

America rejoining the Paris Agreement only means disaster for the US Economy, and higher energy prices for Americans.

Australia is still going green. About a third of our electricity is from Green Tech - solar, hydro electric, wind etc

But it doesn’t want to be a part of Paris. Australia isn’t the only country either. The Gulf States like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Oman don’t want to either.

The premise of our thinking is that we will do things our way. We are adopting green policies on our own. And Scott Morrison keeps saying, “I am the Australian PM elected by the Australian people. I answer to the Australian People and am accountable to the Australian People, not some international organisations”

He also says, “I will look after Australian interests, Australian business, and Australian jobs”

Trump 101.

And like Trump, he’s walking the walk as well.

[Kikapu]

I was at a lunch and speaking to someone who shall remain nameless. They are in politics. They said, COVID is going to ravage the world for the next 5 years.

I had no idea some politicians could set virus departure dates!

What I want to know from the politician is, what happens after 5 years!

He doesn’t now. It’s just speculation. He mentioned Spanish Flu and said that lasted for 3 years. Virus like these die out naturally over time when the human body builds some immunity to it.

So he was alluding to herd immunity.

But he also mentioned the virus won’t work. Usually when vaccines are introduced, a virus will keep changing its DNA and become more resistant and aggressive.

He said the world is in for a rough 5 years. We will be too in Australia but we are a lot more lucky in that at worst case scenario we can keep our border closed and come out in relatively much better shape. So in other words, Australia and NZ is the place to be.

GR touched on this few months ago, that if Covid-19 is not a natural virus but instead it is a man manipulated virus, then it is no use comparing this virus to Spanish Flu that it will just die out at some point.

Boris Johnson stated today that the new variant is not just increases the virus cases much faster than before but it may also be increasing the mortality rate at much faster than before.

I agree, that Australia and New Zealand do have a natural defense system by being an island and low population numbers if they choose to close their borders to the outside world until if and when Covid starts affecting the wild life and domestic animals, then all bets are off worldwide.

[Paphitis]

I was at a lunch and speaking to someone who shall remain nameless. They are in politics. They said, COVID is going to ravage the world for the next 5 years.

I had no idea some politicians could set virus departure dates!

What I want to know from the politician is, what happens after 5 years!

He doesn’t now. It’s just speculation. He mentioned Spanish Flu and said that lasted for 3 years. Virus like these die out naturally over time when the human body builds some immunity to it.

So he was alluding to herd immunity.

But he also mentioned the virus won’t work. Usually when vaccines are introduced, a virus will keep changing its DNA and become more resistant and aggressive.

He said the world is in for a rough 5 years. We will be too in Australia but we are a lot more lucky in that at worst case scenario we can keep our border closed and come out in relatively much better shape. So in other words, Australia and NZ is the place to be.

GR touched on this few months ago, that if Covid-19 is not a natural virus but instead it is a man manipulated virus, then it is no use comparing this virus to Spanish Flu that it will just die out at some point.

Boris Johnson stated today that the new variant is not just increases the virus cases much faster than before but it may also be increasing the mortality rate at much faster than before.

I agree, that Australia and New Zealand do have a natural defense system by being an island and low population numbers if they choose to close their borders to the outside world until if and when Covid starts affecting the wild life and domestic animals, then all bets are off worldwide.

That is what this guy has said. There will be new variants and we haven’t reached the peak yet. It will keep evolving and spreading and he also said it’s too late for all of you. You have to ride it out now. It isn’t going to be pretty.

In Australia he seems to think we have dodged a bullet and we can keep dodging it for as long as it takes.

He doesn’t believe the vaccine will end it, it will help in that it will alleviate the symptoms of those who get it. Those vaccinated can still get COVID and will get it, but maybe less deaths over time. But it will still kill more and more people over the years.

COVID isn’t man made. It’s a virus that originated from bats and jumped into humans due to some stiff up in a lab in Chy-na or the wet markets there. It’s exactly very similar to what happened with Swine and Bird Flu.

These pandemics will occur from time to time. It happened with Spanish Flu and Kong Kong flu as well just a few decades ago.

He basically said, the world is stuffed. Europe and America are too far gone. You are all in a bit of trouble. Here in Australia, we are able to keep doing what we are doing. No guarantees, but if we keep playing to the current script and barring any major stuff up, we can be COVID free here and life will be normal mostly with business open, schools open, people going about their normal lives with some control measures like social distancing, hygiene, etc but we won’t be able to travel to any other country other than NZ which we will form a bubble with. Conversely, no one will be able to travel to Australia easily unless it’s approved by Government. Vaccinated or not. Borders will remain closed indefinitely until it’s over.

[Paphitis]

The Government here is also tracking our movements. You have to scan in every time you go somewhere. Go to a restaurant, a bar or shopping.

As soon as a positive comes up, they know where that person has been and they isolate all close contacts.

Reason is they want to keep the local economy going. And for some strange reason, it’s going quite strong. So it turns out we have an extremely resilient and strong economy.

[Paphitis]

For the next 5 years ?? Fuck that mate, is your source a member of the scientific world or ....Trump supporter ??

He is a Trump supporter too.

Like most of the Australian Government are. Our Federal Government was very close to Trump.

And yes, they prefer him over Biden about 10 fold.

The reasons why they liked Trump was over the Paris Agreement. Australia is one of the rebels that refuses to ratify. They won’t be signing any further accords.

So pleased that PRESIDENT Biden will rejoin the Paris agreement as well as the WHO. Australia , regardkess of what you may think, is irrelevant to the world as it mostly inhabited by English descendants of criminals !!: Not a place for me mate, I do have very very close relatives living there but they are of solid Cypriot breed, from Paphos mainly with one or two exemptions. I have neve4 be3n there and would not wish to either. Its full of fucking criminals and ....Kangaroos, also I dont like Australian beer or fucking ....cricket . Long live the WEST, Cyprus much much longer. The only true Paradise on earth and close to the rest of Europe.

We are now also facing the biggest challenge since WW2. COVID could end up being worse than WW2 actually.
It’s killed over a million people so far. This year it may kill 3 million people and the year after that another 10 million people. Unless there is some kind of treatment to alleviate symptoms, it’s going to kill lots of people. The vaccine may do that to a degree if we are lucky. It might not do anything.

So now it’s survival of the fittest I’m afraid. The countries that will survive this will be the benevolent ones that are able to control their people and limit the spread. The only countries that have demonstrated to be able to it are as follows:

Chy-na, Australia, NZ, Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan.

The countries that will be ok economically are:

Chy-na, Australia, NZ, Hong Kong, Japan, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States.

The rest of you are going to collapse and crumble. That includes America.

Maybe a few other countries have a fighting chance too, like Canada perhaps. But they need to lock down their country.

Cyprus has a fighting chance because its an island. But you need to close the borders and not let anyone in. No one! No tourism, no nothing. No Russian or Chy-nese property investors either. Lock down!

But I don’t know if the Cyprus economy can take that. It could be that you may have another economic meltdown. Or even another banking collapse. Your credit rating may turn to crap again. But it just goes to show, you guys need to be resourceful to survive. If you are not resourceful you will pay. Either through the pandemic or financially. So choose your death basically.

If it was me, I would declare a national emergency and lock the country down completely. No one allowed in. Not even from other EU countries. Then COVID can be controlled. If people survive, you can always do something later on with regard to the economy. Even make drastic changes like revert back to the Pound and just print money. Do whatever it takes to survive. That’s what humanity faced in WW2 and it’s facing a similar calamity now.

This is basically that time in history where we are at the crossroads. The calamity that awaits humanity my be the biggest calamity in human history ever. A much greater calamity than any of the world wars. In fact greater than both world wars combined. Some countries will fare better than others. Right now, Cyprus isn’t in good shape at all.

So the Paris Agreement shouldn’t even be on the agenda. Those countries that will survive will be those who manage to insulate themselves the best and safeguard as many jobs as possible. That’s why Australia won’t have a bar of it. Our mining and resource sector is a giant beast which we need to keep humming along. We export a lot of energy and raw materials. Hundreds of thousands are employed in that sector and its keeping us alive. And because we are alive we can shut ourselves down from the rest of the world and stay afloat.

If we were not blessed with our resources sector, we could collapse as well.

COVID is basically the war of our generation. It isn’t going away anytime soon. Whole countries will be bought to their knees.

In 20 years time, COVID is going to be the defining moment in our history, much like WW2 was. Every country will come through it eventually but at a cost. Lives lost and ruined economies. And of course, the boom that will follow will be unprecedented. The cycle never ends.

[repulsewarrior]

Soldiers doing their job: on watch; (which is not to turn and wave).



...sold as soldiers turning their backs on the commander-in-chief.

How many will have such false hope affirmed, who want to believe with such a frame of mind?

...what is sedition; how far?

Such is the stuff where America's politicians will need to take a good look at themselves; Impeaching Trump exactly for the right reasons will not be in this atmosphere an easy task.

...it's like the Scopes monkey trial all over again; who wins in such an event, when reason itself is put on trial?

More distractions, but Biden, men like these with a job to do will not be so easily drawn in to the drama, (those who want things just the way they are), those with too much time on their hands are apt to dream-up.

[Kikapu]

You are losing the plot mate,

I thought it was clear that I was not siding with the dems to win this election. I have also stated the reasons why numerous times throughout this thread. I am flabbergasted that you think that I am hiding in some closet.

Furthermore, I did not in any way shape or fashion insinuate that these Antifa protests are on the same level with what happened at the Capitol hill. Its just a figment of your imagination, this is the next event.

If these where republican's or trump supporters you would probably be calling them terrorists.

A prime example, you are saying there is no criminal activity here; but there is. Vandalism is a criminal activity which is punishable by the law and arrest were made.

Why is it alright and even excused for Antifa to vandalize the buildings of the democratic party but if a group of people, wear hats that say make america great again, it is not?

Sorry Max but, sometimes you do not read correctly what is written.

I said the 2 videos you posted did not show anything illegal by those who were just walking in a group. Only the News people were making such claims. Those videos had no value to support your argument at all.

I do not excuse any criminal activity by any group, including the police. When they break the law, they should face the consequences. I never heard of Antifa group until about 6 months ago when Trump wanted to label them as terrorist group. Little did Trump admit, that he was supporting other groups which committed the ultimate terrorism against the government at his encouragement by being part of the insurrection group in storming Capitol building, by these groups which I too had not heard of until about 6 months ago, “Proud Boys, Oath Keepers & QAnon”.

I never suggested that you had supported the Dems winning the election. That would be very foolish statement to make. After all, Dems are nothing but bunch of devils eating babies for breakfast!

We know you were backing Trump to win by a large margin, because you told us before the election, but did not happen. Some of your posts clearly displays your disappointment of Trump losing the election by posting rubbish videos to divert attention from the criminal Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol.

[Maximus]

Again, those people that committed a crime during the events at capitol hill should have the book thrown at them.

I never suggested that you had supported the Dems winning the election. That would be very foolish statement to make. After all, Dems are nothing but bunch of devils eating babies for breakfast!

No they are not, but by and large they are a group of hypocritical liars that have pivoted too far to the left.

The challenge now for the democratic party's supporters is going to be uniting the country and holding this administration accountable. Which I dont think they will. I already see complacency from the left leaning media now that they have won the election.

The lies just continue to smear Trump and republicans. Pelosi is saying that trump never took the pandemic seriously and has left them to deal with covid from scratch. Basically, they are pre-empting their possible incompetancies by blaming someone other than themselves even though it is now their responsibility.

When in fact, Pelosi was miss lets go hug a Chinese so they dont feel bad at the beginning of the pandemic and during Trumps administration, they have already started vaccinating 1 million people per day.

[Get Real!]

More than anything, America now has the perfect pretext to disarm and dismantle all militia groups, as well as imposing many gun restrictions that wouldn’t have previously been acceptable.

I hope Biden is smart enough to swiftly take advantage of this situation while he still can.

As for uniting the nation, I think it’ll fall into place by itself once the many offenders have been incarcerated and any remaining agitators crawl back under their rocks.

As for who is lying the most… I think Trump takes the cake, the cherry and all other decorations!