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[Paphitis]

A coup is when the military take power.

Not necessarily Paphitis, a coup (takeover, ousting) can also come about by civil unrest.

This author calls it a "self coup"...

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... ill-457549

Sorry Get Teal but that isn’t the case. These dingbats were not in any place to be able to in all seriousness organise a Coup and wrestle power from the Government or even be taken seriously,

I mean who was the ring leader? Viking man?

And if you were going to have a scout, you would have something a little more substantial than 2x4s especially when you will come up against armed security, secret service, and FBI.

When you guys Hm had a coup in Cyprus, the National Guard and Junta went in with Tanks to blow Makarios up to smithereens. These protesters were more like Bambos and his inbred family.

What happened in Cyprus in 74 was a Coup. What happened in Capitol Hill was a complete farcical joke let alone a Coup. If someone didn’t lose their life it could almost be funny.

[Kikapu]

No Democratic politicians ever wanted to overturn the 2nd Amendment. What they have proposed was to regulate and to make sure that the police on the streets are not outgunned by the criminals, which often they are. When the constitution was formulated by the founders, it was never envisioned that the kinds of weapons on the market for non military use a century later and beyond.

You will never be able to control the criminals who will always get their guns.

Those who have guns and are registered, are not the people who commit crime,

The Democrats did want to control and curb hun ownership laws. Which does indeed breach the 2nd amendment. The Constitution can only be changed by referendum in every state by a 2 thirds majority in every state.

Democrats always proposed hand gun registrations as well as ban on certain automatic weapons. That does not constitute 2nd amendment being denied to Americans.

Well that would be a direct violation of the constitution. No way in the world will the yanks put up with hand hun and automatic weapon restrictions.

It’s been done in Australia and the criminals still have automatic weapons and hand guns here. If you know someone in the bikeys or Nafia, you can buy any military grade weapon you want and you can also do it on the dark web.

Prohibition doesn’t work on crime. It only makes people more vulnerable to crime if anything.

This is where you go off the rails.

Regulating guns is not same as violation of the 2nd amendment. There are many weapons restriction laws on the books already. Some Federal laws and most are state laws. The 2nd amendment does not give anyone carte blanche freedom to have any weapons they want and what to do with them.

[Paphitis]

No Democratic politicians ever wanted to overturn the 2nd Amendment. What they have proposed was to regulate and to make sure that the police on the streets are not outgunned by the criminals, which often they are. When the constitution was formulated by the founders, it was never envisioned that the kinds of weapons on the market for non military use a century later and beyond.

You will never be able to control the criminals who will always get their guns.

Those who have guns and are registered, are not the people who commit crime,

The Democrats did want to control and curb hun ownership laws. Which does indeed breach the 2nd amendment. The Constitution can only be changed by referendum in every state by a 2 thirds majority in every state.

Democrats always proposed hand gun registrations as well as ban on certain automatic weapons. That does not constitute 2nd amendment being denied to Americans.

Well that would be a direct violation of the constitution. No way in the world will the yanks put up with hand hun and automatic weapon restrictions.

It’s been done in Australia and the criminals still have automatic weapons and hand guns here. If you know someone in the bikeys or Nafia, you can buy any military grade weapon you want and you can also do it on the dark web.

Prohibition doesn’t work on crime. It only makes people more vulnerable to crime if anything.

This is where you go off the rails.

Regulating guns is not same as violation of the 2nd amendment. There are many weapons restriction laws on the books already. Some Federal laws and most are state laws. The 2nd amendment does not give anyone carte blanche freedom to have any weapons they want and what to do with them.

My hats not how the Yanks see it. Or the NRA. Who by the way have been a very loyal GOP supporter. The only enabler on Trump’s side actually. That’s where the Democrats fail. It’s politically motivated.

Regulation means perhaps only stronger criminal vetting in my eyes, not banning certain categories of weapons.

[Get Real!]

A coup is when the military take power.

Not necessarily Paphitis, a coup (takeover, ousting) can also come about by civil unrest.

This author calls it a "self coup"...

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... ill-457549

Sorry Get Teal but that isn’t the case. These dingbats were not in any place to be able to in all seriousness organise a Coup and wrestle power from the Government or even be taken seriously,

I mean who was the ring leader? Viking man?

And if you were going to have a scout, you would have something a little more substantial than 2x4s especially when you will come up against armed security, secret service, and FBI.

When you guys Hm had a coup in Cyprus, the National Guard and Junta went in with Tanks to blow Makarios up to smithereens. These protesters were more like Bambos and his inbred family.

What happened in Cyprus in 74 was a Coup. What happened in Capitol Hill was a complete farcical joke let alone a Coup. If someone didn’t lose their life it could almost be funny.

If it weren't a coup they wouldn't be contemplating indictments for sedition, which is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... ol-assault

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -quicktake

[repulsewarrior]

...and what would be happening, now, if "they" had succeeded in taking hostages?

[Kikapu]

...and what would be happening, now, if "they" had succeeded in taking hostages?

Depends.

If ONLY the Vice President can count the Electoral College votes and he is either kidnapped or killed, would that have hampered the constitutional order to be fulfilled before Biden can be inaugurated?

Wasn’t that Trump’s last roll of the dice to stay in power?

Wasn’t that the reason why Trump called on his insurrectionist to be there on that day?

Trump reportedly watched the whole ordeal on TV and did nothing to help those in the Capitol building.

Trump has been correctly impeached and if the Banana Republican Party want to free themselves from the Psycho Trump family in politics, the Senate Republicans must join the Democrats and convict Trump.

[Paphitis]

A coup is when the military take power.

Not necessarily Paphitis, a coup (takeover, ousting) can also come about by civil unrest.

This author calls it a "self coup"...

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... ill-457549

Sorry Get Teal but that isn’t the case. These dingbats were not in any place to be able to in all seriousness organise a Coup and wrestle power from the Government or even be taken seriously,

I mean who was the ring leader? Viking man?

And if you were going to have a scout, you would have something a little more substantial than 2x4s especially when you will come up against armed security, secret service, and FBI.

When you guys Hm had a coup in Cyprus, the National Guard and Junta went in with Tanks to blow Makarios up to smithereens. These protesters were more like Bambos and his inbred family.

What happened in Cyprus in 74 was a Coup. What happened in Capitol Hill was a complete farcical joke let alone a Coup. If someone didn’t lose their life it could almost be funny.

If it weren't a coup they wouldn't be contemplating indictments for sedition, which is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... ol-assault

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -quicktake

Good luck with that because the US is governed by a good and proper judicial process and not by the media.

You can charge those responsible with anything you want but if a US court upholds the charges and convicts is another matter. They will not convict anyone on trumped up charges or conduct a trial by media.

If prosecutors are that stupid, the demonstrators will get off Scott free. We had a politically motivated show trial here in Australia. Perhaps our greatest miscarriage of justice and pure and utter corruption to the point Pootin would have been so proud. But the Federal Court overturned everything and released an innocent man.

There is no sedition or attempt to wrestle power. All I saw was a bunch of anarchists and misfits doing stupid things endangering safety abd causing damage to Government property and breaching security, looting and stealing, and perhaps a few other laws as well. But sedition and treachery? Or a Coup? Yeh well pull the other one why don’t you.

A Coupust would not steal abd loot stuff and post on Facebook I’m afraid.

[Paphitis]

...and what would be happening, now, if "they" had succeeded in taking hostages?

Take hostages? With what? With their Viking horns and sticks?

It’s like taking a knife to a gun fight.

What would have happened is the Swat teams would be called in with the Secret Service and they would have signed their death certificates. They would be lined up and shot clinically and very efficiently.

A bit of natural selection at play. I mean yeh right. As if they would have lasted a couple of hours.

I’m pretty sure the protesters were a bit dumb but I doubt they were dumb enough to not understand that they would in effect have committed suicide.

I mean good luck with that one. The Secret Service and TRGs are probably former Seals and Rangers.

What would have happened is demonstrators will be coming out in body bags.

[Get Real!]

All I know is that the Bison boy (not a Viking outfit Paphitis) has fucked up BIGLY!

[Paphitis]

...and what would be happening, now, if "they" had succeeded in taking hostages?

Depends.

If ONLY the Vice President can count the Electoral College votes and he is either kidnapped or killed, would that have hampered the constitutional order to be fulfilled before Biden can be inaugurated?

Wasn’t that Trump’s last roll of the dice to stay in power?

Wasn’t that the reason why Trump called on his insurrectionist to be there on that day?

Trump reportedly watched the whole ordeal on TV and did nothing to help those in the Capitol building.

Trump has been correctly impeached and if the Banana Republican Party want to free themselves from the Psycho Trump family in politics, the Senate Republicans must join the Democrats and convict Trump.

Oh geez! You couldn’t make it up if you tried.

The were taking selfie’s in Belosis office and stole here laptop.

How the fuck would they be able to kidnapp the VP when he is surrounded by secret service all the time. Yeh right Kikapu!