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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:10 pm

Here's another interesting development...

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/ ... tructuring

Slowly but surely the US is changing.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:16 pm

Get Real! wrote:Here's another interesting development...

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/ ... tructuring

Slowly but surely the US is changing.


The US will never abandon its guns. It’s enshrined in the US Constitution. To change it you require a referendum in every state by a 75% majority.

They view it as their fundamental right which is deep rooted due to their civil war.

Cyprus is a country that also has an affinity to guns, well at least in my family they do. So why you want that to change is beyond me.

The US oozes freedom and civil liberties as the liberal country they have always been. What’s changing is this tilt towards totalitarianism, abd control which isn’t something anyone should desire.

They have always been a free country but the Democrats want to change that since the revolting peasants became disobedient to the script in 2016.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:I believe it was a real coup d’état... but their leader Trump knew nothing military so he did the only style he knows... WWF!

You know the storming of the rink by outsiders with 2x4s, chairs... and all that. The ref gets knocked out, the opponent pinned and they flip the result...

I think the fool genuinely thought he could brawl his way into a 2nd term! :lol:


No it wasn’t. It started off as a demonstration of some tens of thousands GOP Trump supporters.

Only about 1000 people stormed Capitol Hill. The vast majority did not wish to partake.

In the US, demonstrations are allowed. That applies to everyone. And that includes ANTIFA demonstrations and BLM,

What is always illegal is when any demonstration turns violent, causes property damage or jeopardises the safety of other people. That is what we have seen in virtually all ANTIFA and BLM demonstrations with the support of Democrat officials. Many people died. But that’s ok. Many people lost shop fronts, property and their houses but that’s ok.

It’s also illegal of course when 1000 people stormed Capitol Hill and decided to wreck the joint and jeopardise the safety of workers. Fair is fair and the law must be even handed. These people deserve to be condemned and arrested. But to say Trump had something to do with it is beyond a joke. Democrats had a lot more influence over the ANTIFA and BLM riots.

A coup is when the military take power. I do not support it. But things have deteriorated so much in the US, that one day the US military may have to declare martial law. It’s not a good thing but the alternative is civil war and that is worse. So it can’t be ruled out.

The military does have a responsibility to mobilise itself in such extreme circumstances. It’s still a long way from that obviously but America has had a civil war before and looking at current events, it does allude to the potential of it happening again if the death spiral continues which will only anger and polarise people more and more. This is how civil wars start and the Democrats are to blame.

The US Military isn’t prone to doing Coups like they have in Greece, Cyprus, Turkey and other places. But I would imagine that the only time will be if there is mass armed insurrection and violence. The storming of Capitol Hill was no organised insurrection. Just some dingbats being stupid.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:39 pm

No Democratic politicians ever wanted to overturn the 2nd Amendment. What they have proposed was to regulate and to make sure that the police on the streets are not outgunned by the criminals, which often they are. When the constitution was formulated by the founders, it was never envisioned that the kinds of weapons on the market for non military use a century later and beyond.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Maximus » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:43 pm

This was no way a coup,

insurrection?, is just a choice and play on words.

But the US national Rifle association says this;

The gun rights group said the filing will help it “exit what it believes is a corrupt political and regulatory environment in New York,” according to the statement.


Similar to what Paphitis is saying. Democrat run states are corrupt, they have been criminally negligent these past for years. They are not so quick now to want law enforcement to be de-funded but they got everything to say about the capitol hill protestors while they looked the other way with BLM and the antifa.

Unfortunately, they are hypocrites beyond belief.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:43 pm

Kikapu wrote:No Democratic politicians ever wanted to overturn the 2nd Amendment. What they have proposed was to regulate and to make sure that the police on the streets are not outgunned by the criminals, which often they are. When the constitution was formulated by the founders, it was never envisioned that the kinds of weapons on the market for non military use a century later and beyond.


You will never be able to control the criminals who will always get their guns.

Those who have guns and are registered, are not the people who commit crime,

The Democrats did want to control and curb hun ownership laws. Which does indeed breach the 2nd amendment. The Constitution can only be changed by referendum in every state by a 2 thirds majority in every state.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:47 pm

Maximus wrote:This was no way a coup,

insurrection?, is just a choice and play on words.

But the US national Rifle association says this;

The gun rights group said the filing will help it “exit what it believes is a corrupt political and regulatory environment in New York,” according to the statement.


Similar to what Paphitis is saying. Democrat run states are corrupt, they have been criminally negligent these past for years. They are not so quick now to want law enforcement to be de-funded but they got everything to say about the capitol hill £terrorists" while they looked the other way with BLM and the antifa..

Unfortunately, they are hypocrites beyond belief.


Yes the Democrats have become very vile the last 4 to 5 years. They were not always like that, they actually use to be different in the past to the point that if I was a citizen and could vote, I could have no issue at all voting fir them. I probably would have voted for certain democrats like Obama.

But I could never do so in their current form. Not in a million years. They have gone so out of kilter it isn’t funny anymore. More criminals now than a political force.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:50 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:No Democratic politicians ever wanted to overturn the 2nd Amendment. What they have proposed was to regulate and to make sure that the police on the streets are not outgunned by the criminals, which often they are. When the constitution was formulated by the founders, it was never envisioned that the kinds of weapons on the market for non military use a century later and beyond.


You will never be able to control the criminals who will always get their guns.

Those who have guns and are registered, are not the people who commit crime,

The Democrats did want to control and curb hun ownership laws. Which does indeed breach the 2nd amendment. The Constitution can only be changed by referendum in every state by a 2 thirds majority in every state.

Democrats always proposed hand gun registrations as well as ban on certain automatic weapons. That does not constitute 2nd amendment being denied to Americans.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:56 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:No Democratic politicians ever wanted to overturn the 2nd Amendment. What they have proposed was to regulate and to make sure that the police on the streets are not outgunned by the criminals, which often they are. When the constitution was formulated by the founders, it was never envisioned that the kinds of weapons on the market for non military use a century later and beyond.


You will never be able to control the criminals who will always get their guns.

Those who have guns and are registered, are not the people who commit crime,

The Democrats did want to control and curb hun ownership laws. Which does indeed breach the 2nd amendment. The Constitution can only be changed by referendum in every state by a 2 thirds majority in every state.

Democrats always proposed hand gun registrations as well as ban on certain automatic weapons. That does not constitute 2nd amendment being denied to Americans.


Well that would be a direct violation of the constitution. No way in the world will the yanks put up with hand hun and automatic weapon restrictions.

It’s been done in Australia and the criminals still have automatic weapons and hand guns here. If you know someone in the bikeys or Nafia, you can buy any military grade weapon you want and you can also do it on the dark web.

Prohibition doesn’t work on crime. It only makes people more vulnerable to crime if anything.

The real reason why the Democrats want to do it is to hit at the GOOs base who represent the majority of hun owners. If a civil war were to occur, there is no doubt who the winner would be.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:59 pm

Paphitis wrote:A coup is when the military take power.

Not necessarily Paphitis, a coup (takeover, ousting) can also come about by civil unrest.

This author calls it a "self coup"...

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... ill-457549
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