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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby miltiades » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:07 pm

I wonder if Paf-ides still remains convinced that Arsehole Trump has 4 more years as the POUTTOS :) :lol: :lol: :x :x
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:35 pm

miltiades wrote:I wonder if Paf-ides still remains convinced that Arsehole Trump has 4 more years as the POUTTOS :) :lol: :lol: :x :x


If Trump gets another 4 years, it will most likely be in the jail! :wink: :mrgreen:
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:01 pm

This article is 4 years old, but it is just as relevant today as it was in 2016. :D

Is Trump Making His 'Last Stand'?


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Donald J. Trump reminds me of George Armstrong Custer.

Both men enjoyed being brash, and boastful, about their early, surprising success. Each was famously vain — proud of his long, blond locks.

Trump astonished the world by winning many small battles (primaries) against many foes (GOP candidates), and earned the glory he craved: the GOP nomination. Similarly, Custer won many battles during the Civil War as a cavalry commander and earned many promotions, ultimately attaining the rank of major general.

During Custer’s military career, he often bragged about his success. After the Battle of Gettysburg, he wrote in a report, “I challenge the annals of warfare to produce a more brilliant or successful charge of cavalry.” Trump, of course, was equally immodest about his success during the Republican primary contest.

After the Civil War, Custer joined the 7th Cavalry Regiment as a lieutenant colonel, and went west to fight in the American Indian Wars. Like Trump after winning the GOP nomination, his self-confidence and ambition made him all the more arrogant and rash. When his scouts found the encampment of Native American tribes at Little Bighorn in Montana Territory, he didn’t want to wait. Custer attacked. His 210 men, greatly outnumbered, were outflanked and killed. The battle is known as “Custer’s Last Stand” and the defeat was so total that it eclipsed his early military accomplishments.

Trump is in a similar position. Polls, not scouts, tell him he is surrounded. The majority of American voters are hostile to Trump and Trumpism. Like the coalition of Native American tribes that vanquished Custer, most voters have a negative view of the blond, brash, boastful man seeking greater glory. And any analysis of demographics reveals that most voters are not in Trump’s core demo: older, white, less-educated, angry men.

Trump must feel surrounded now, but not just by voters who want to see him lose. He likely feels surrounded by Clinton surrogates, media critics and GOP leaders who have refused to ride to his rescue.
Worse, he must feel surrounded by a reality of his own making. After the GOP national convention, he chose to continue attacking Republican rivals. He chose to attack the Gold Star family of a fallen soldier; and he chose to hire as campaign CEO Steve Bannon, the former head of Breitbart News whose controversial support of the “alt-right” will keep Trump on the defensive on the issue of racism.

And it was Trump who recently chose to divide his own forces — as Custer divided his forces — by “softening,” “hardening,” retreating, denying and delaying on his main line of attack: the issue of immigration and deportation.

So now if Trump retreats on the issue, some of his supporters will lose respect for him, and they won’t be motivated to work for, and help fund, his campaign. If he continues his hard line attack, he may earn the nickname once given to Custer for his stamina in the saddle — “Hard Ass” — but the opposition will be even more relentless in attacking him. If he denies changing his views, or delays a decision on what policy he supports, both critics and supporters will continue to press him … and when he finally states a definitive position, it will be too little, too late.

He will have made his last stand.

https://www.wbur.org/politicker/2016/08 ... last-stand
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Londonrake » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:59 pm

Kikapu wrote:I am beginning to believe that the word “obfuscation” is your favourite word in your vast vocabulary! :wink: :D


Well, you can only respond to the same thing in a limited number of ways. I apologise, nevertheless.

It seems to me though, obfuscation is when you ask a relatively simple question, satisfied fundmentally by "Yes"or "No" and the response is reams of irrelevance, none of which answer the simple query. It's generally used to cover up somebody having to acknowledge a ................. "yes, fair point" situation. You will struggle really hard to find any of those on any chat forum. :lol:

Anyway, has Don left the building yet? :?
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:22 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I am beginning to believe that the word “obfuscation” is your favourite word in your vast vocabulary! :wink: :D


Well, you can only respond to the same thing in a limited number of ways. I apologise, nevertheless.

It seems to me though, obfuscation is when you ask a relatively simple question, satisfied fundmentally by "Yes"or "No" and the response is reams of irrelevance, none of which answer the simple query. It's generally used to cover up somebody having to acknowledge a ................. "yes, fair point" situation. You will struggle really hard to find any of those on any chat forum. :lol:

Anyway, has Don left the building yet? :?


Perhaps you like your Gin just straight, but mostly I like mine with tonic, ice, slice of lemon with a twist, and sometimes with fresh mint and slice of cucumber when having a “London Mule”! :D

Truth be told, I also indulge myself with just straight Gin if I couldn’t be bothered to add the rest of the ingredients. :wink:

It all depends how I feel at the time, much like when posting on CF. :wink:

Oh shit, I’m obfuscating again! :D

No, Trump hasn’t left the building yet because he is counting on one LAST STAND in Congress on January 6th when the Electoral College votes are counted. :lol:
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:18 am

miltiades wrote:I wonder if Paf-ides still remains convinced that Arsehole Trump has 4 more years as the POUTTOS :) :lol: :lol: :x :x


Yes, one way or an other, the only sure thing at this point is a GOP landslide in 2024.

Hopefully they can reset Trumps 8 years or his son or daughter take over.

Or we get Tucker Carlson. :D

No way in the world anyone is voting for Biden or Camela now that the media will be fixated on them.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:19 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
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This will be a major set back to the Democrats and cement the GOPs stance on freedom of speech and a free press.


Are you sure about that, Paphitis?

Trump wants to veto the defense bill, because; :wink:

Why does Trump object to the bill?

The US president also wants lawmakers to include provisions that are unrelated to military and national defense that would target social media companies. Specifically, Trump wants the bill to abolish a law that protects social media giants from being liable for third-party content.

Trump has regularly claimed that Google, Facebook and other tech giants are biased against him.

https://www.dw.com/en/donald-trump-thre ... a-55927522


Yes there is speculation this could be Trumps last move.

But he will speak with his lawyers first or obtain assurances that Assange will desist from being a National Security concern for the USA and her allies, in particular the 5 eye partners.

No social media company or even big tech is protected from divulging State Secret information.

The State does have the power to take drastic power against businesses or individuals who are able to onteain or divulge sensitive material. At least in Australia. US should be similar.

For example, I would hazard a guess if anyone divulges anything about Pine Gap, your cement boots could be awaiting. You’ll become a missing person. :lol: prison would be the least of your problems.


I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about the GOP standing for freedom of speech and free press, but Trump wants to limit what is written on social media because it maybe against him. :wink:


The GOP is the only party in town that stands for free speech and free press and free everything including free market.

Democrats stand for Marxist Authoritarianism. Control of every citizen, what they own (they won't be allowed to own anything if they get their way) and you vill be happy, and that's an order!

Kikapu, if you want freedom and liberty, then you missed the boat when you voted for Democrats I'm afraid!


Never heard such rubbish! :D

Tell me something, Paphitis, when you watch FOX News, do they display a message on the screen warning viewers that watching this channel may impair your thinking? :wink: :D


I should ask you, when you listen to the MSM, does it warn you that doing so may result in sheepish behavious?


FOX News is MSM, No? :wink:


Yes it is. Owned by Australia’s News Corp.

It’s one of only very few outlets where the journos are curated to be real journalists rather than activists.

It takes Australua to open the eyes of the American people.

Now FOX News turned on Trump mainly because Murdock will carry favour with the incoming administration through Biden who will serve Murdoch’s interests well. He is an opportunist. Same thing happened with Obama, as Murdoch and Obama will be on the phone regularly.

Then in 2024, Murdoch will possibly get his boy Tucker Carlson into the WH.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:28 am

You wouldn't want to miss this interview... :)

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9MLrM_1608151379
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:35 am

Get Real! wrote:You wouldn't want to miss this interview... :)

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9MLrM_1608151379


Each to their own.

There is a religion in our societies, not mainstream, who refuse blood transfusions, even if that means they will die.

I remember here in Australia, the parents of a young child kept refusing a blood transfusion for their child. The child was going to die without it. So the Government took the parents to court with accusations of neglect leading to manslaughter and the State removed custody from the parents to the State so that the child can get the transfusion and live.

There are nut jobs everywhere. Poor kid.

I do t know what happened to the child after that whether it went back to parents or was fostered to another family.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:10 am

Looks like China has had enough of Australia… Paphitis :lol:

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=snP24_1608156798
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