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by **Paphitis** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:07 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
And the safest thing of all, he is far closer to leftism than any of the Democrats ever were in the last 10 years because everything he did was to overhaul the economy and get the disadvantaged working again.

I don’t know when Trump is trying to kick 20 million people off affordable Obamacare healthcare program with nothing to replace it with makes him a leftist?

Since most Americans receive their healthcare from their employers as a benefit and due to massive layoffs now with Covid-19, they could not afford to buy healthcare coverage for their families without some assistance from the government.

It wasn’t affordable which is why he did it.

Health insurance premiums sky rocketed under Obama care resulting in more people requiring assistance. There is no question the US Health Industry needs reforming but when health providers have the ability to up their prices 50% or more, it’s literally fruitless.

That’s where their needs to be some regulator or body that fixes or controls pricing, similar to what Australia has.

by **Paphitis** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:13 am

Kikapu wrote:Another reason why Trump is dangerous to Democracy as the Republican Party candidates believe they are entitled to win even when they have lost BIG by the will of the people.

Politico
Trump unleashes an army of sore losers

By David Siders
Sun, December 13, 2020, 1:00 PM GMT+1

It’s been five weeks since the election, and he still hasn’t conceded. Alleging massive voter fraud, he’s demanded an audit of votes in populous Democratic strongholds. On Thursday, he sued the secretary of state.

We’re talking here about Loren Culp, the unsuccessful Republican nominee for governor in Washington state, where he lost by more than 13 percentage points on Nov. 3. Like Donald Trump, Culp insists he’s the victim of a rigged election.

Trump, it seems, isn’t the only dead-ender holding out more than a month after the election, refusing to acknowledge defeat. Even as Trump lost again in court on Friday, with the Supreme Court rejecting a long-shot effort to overturn the election, he remains a lodestar for denialists of the GOP.

In California, a Republican congressional candidate trounced in Democratic-heavy Los Angeles is still refusing to concede — while simultaneously announcing he’s running for governor. In Maryland, a congressional candidate beaten by more than 40 percentage points is still complaining about “irregularities” in her election. And in Tennessee, a House candidate defeated by more than 57 percentage points has reached out to the ubiquitous pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell to air her grievances about an election that no Republican had any chance of winning — but that she’s convinced she did.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-unleas ... 50368.html

It’s not the GOP who think they are entitled. It’s the Democrats.

It was the Democrats who didn’t want to accept the 2016 result and tried to pull every trick in the book to destabilise the POTUS.

The GOO however is very willing to accept the results but you can expect a rough ride because it’s obvious that something doesn’t make sense. For instance, Trump gets 75 million votes and Biden comes through with over 80 million votes.

Questions exist over the Mail in ballots and Trump is within his rights to exercise his legal options to ensure electoral integrity.

Where integrity is definitely lacking is the MSM which spewed its propaganda throughout to trick the masses so that their guy wins.

by **Paphitis** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:29 am

Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:No disrespect to Paphitis, but the “Blind Love” comment just signifies when one does not see the negatives in a person, and in this case, the person being Trump.

Forgive my persistence. And, I also think examples of Trump's character problems are prolific and impossible to explain away. I do believe though that they've been obsessively over-hyped.

In a world containing the likes of Putin, Xi Jinping, Khamenei and Kim Jong-un, all of whom rule absolutely, until death do us part, with (blood soaked) iron fists, Trump - who was always going to be a here today gone tomorrow phenomena - seems pretty small fry. The number of postings on forums dedicated to the man though must far exceed any comments people (might dare to) post on the dictators mentioned combined. That is, before those same "Liberals" ( ) who complain about Trump's authoritarian tendencies rush in to defend them of course. Don't you see it's all a bit hypocritical and "double think"?

Anyway, you said that Trump's actions in the last year had turned a lot of people against him. Paphitis replies that he got millions more votes than 2016, so obviously hasn't . You can't both be right.

No one I know here is in love with any of the dictators you have mentioned above, even though RH is a little defensive against Putin when it comes to America, but that’s him. Your argument is like saying one is better than the rest because one only beats his wife once a week and the rest does it 6 times a week. We are supposed to be living in a democracy in the USA in comparison to the rest you have mentioned. Hardly a level playing field to try to exonerate Trump’s negatives.

Yes, Trump got 7 million more votes in 2020 than 2016, assuming the dominion counting machines did no cheat and sent Biden’s votes to Trump instead (yes, what’s good for the goose, it’s also good for the gander), however, Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump, so what does that tell you, that either Trump could have gotten 14 million more votes or that 15 million more voters than what Hillary received in 2016 hated Trump to vote against him. The bottom number is, Trump lost by a landslide in popular vote and electoral college. Time to move on as soon as Trump accepts his defeat or when he gets evicted from the White House on January 20th.

But Trump doesn’t beat his wife.

I posted a video a few days ago which encapsulated the Trump phenomena to a tee, and explained why so many people support him. It had a Christian slant on things as the chap in the video was the Head of The Australian Christian League. They are funded by organised religion. This includes the Orthodox Church - Greek, Russian, Serbian, Romanian, and Ukrainian. They pay fees and money to the ACL.

He answered everything perfectly as to why he became a Trump fan, he wasn’t originally because of his past. He admitted to being a supporter of the Democrats.

But Trumps term bared no resemblance at all to his past. That’s the first thing. He changed significantly. He worked tirelessly for America. What he said he did. And he did it with heart on sleeve. He did it also with a bombastic style.

So we all accepted that as he established a baseline of trust. We all got a politician we can trust. We all knew he would fight for America and the people.

And what drew the Christians in was his approach to social issues.

And then all that economic reform which created millions of jobs. This is why people voted for him.

by **Kikapu** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:33 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Another reason why Trump is dangerous to Democracy as the Republican Party candidates believe they are entitled to win even when they have lost BIG by the will of the people.

Politico
Trump unleashes an army of sore losers

By David Siders
Sun, December 13, 2020, 1:00 PM GMT+1

It’s been five weeks since the election, and he still hasn’t conceded. Alleging massive voter fraud, he’s demanded an audit of votes in populous Democratic strongholds. On Thursday, he sued the secretary of state.

We’re talking here about Loren Culp, the unsuccessful Republican nominee for governor in Washington state, where he lost by more than 13 percentage points on Nov. 3. Like Donald Trump, Culp insists he’s the victim of a rigged election.

Trump, it seems, isn’t the only dead-ender holding out more than a month after the election, refusing to acknowledge defeat. Even as Trump lost again in court on Friday, with the Supreme Court rejecting a long-shot effort to overturn the election, he remains a lodestar for denialists of the GOP.

In California, a Republican congressional candidate trounced in Democratic-heavy Los Angeles is still refusing to concede — while simultaneously announcing he’s running for governor. In Maryland, a congressional candidate beaten by more than 40 percentage points is still complaining about “irregularities” in her election. And in Tennessee, a House candidate defeated by more than 57 percentage points has reached out to the ubiquitous pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell to air her grievances about an election that no Republican had any chance of winning — but that she’s convinced she did.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-unleas ... 50368.html

It’s not the GOP who think they are entitled. It’s the Democrats.

It was the Democrats who didn’t want to accept the 2016 result and tried to pull every trick in the book to destabilise the POTUS.

The GOO however is very willing to accept the results but you can expect a rough ride because it’s obvious that something doesn’t make sense. For instance, Trump gets 75 million votes and Biden comes through with over 80 million votes.

Questions exist over the Mail in ballots and Trump is within his rights to exercise his legal options to ensure electoral integrity.

Where integrity is definitely lacking is the MSM which spewed its propaganda throughout to trick the masses so that their guy wins.

Let’s get the facts straight.

Trump loses at the ballot box.
Trump files endless lawsuits of widespread election fraud but cannot produce any evidence.
The lower courts and the appeal courts ALL reject the claims.
Trump calls for state governors and election officials to rig the election and make him the winner, but they all told him to take a hike.
Then there is a direct lawsuit to the Supreme Court to give the election to Trump, and they told him to take a flying leap, even Trump’s 3 appointees to the court.

After all of the above, Trump and his supporters can’t accept being defeated, which means there’s no hope for them at all as they will be miserable for the rest of their lives instead of moving on gracefully. :roll:

by **Paphitis** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:34 am

Kikapu wrote:I am beginning to believe that the word “obfuscation” is your favourite word in your vast vocabulary!

I really did not vote for Biden per se. I actually like Kamala Harris more, a Californian gal. I mainly voted against Trump, along with the extra 15 million voters which Hillary did not get. Year 2020 killed Trump’s chances of winning on many fronts and ALL of his doing. Anyone who can screw up monopoly to win re-election does not deserve it because of their arrogance in thinking it was in the bag so that he can be as much a cunt he wants to be on the home stretch to 2nd term. I guess his old man never read the bedtime story to him, “The Tortoise and the Hare”. Now he has the time to read it before the next election in 2024!

Camela Harris is a GOP party asset. The GOPs Christ masses will come all at once when she takes over.

I don’t understand what you see in her.

But your story isn’t uncommon. Many people voted Democrats because they too believed the MSM propaganda of Orange Nan bad and just voted for Biden based on that. Low information voting,

But if you look at Biden’s speeches and Camela’s past then you wouldn’t vote at all.

And speaking of past, Camela has more of a past than Trump did. She spent more time on her knees or on her back with her heels up than any US Senator in history.

by **Paphitis** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:38 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Another reason why Trump is dangerous to Democracy as the Republican Party candidates believe they are entitled to win even when they have lost BIG by the will of the people.

Politico
Trump unleashes an army of sore losers

By David Siders
Sun, December 13, 2020, 1:00 PM GMT+1

It’s been five weeks since the election, and he still hasn’t conceded. Alleging massive voter fraud, he’s demanded an audit of votes in populous Democratic strongholds. On Thursday, he sued the secretary of state.

We’re talking here about Loren Culp, the unsuccessful Republican nominee for governor in Washington state, where he lost by more than 13 percentage points on Nov. 3. Like Donald Trump, Culp insists he’s the victim of a rigged election.

Trump, it seems, isn’t the only dead-ender holding out more than a month after the election, refusing to acknowledge defeat. Even as Trump lost again in court on Friday, with the Supreme Court rejecting a long-shot effort to overturn the election, he remains a lodestar for denialists of the GOP.

In California, a Republican congressional candidate trounced in Democratic-heavy Los Angeles is still refusing to concede — while simultaneously announcing he’s running for governor. In Maryland, a congressional candidate beaten by more than 40 percentage points is still complaining about “irregularities” in her election. And in Tennessee, a House candidate defeated by more than 57 percentage points has reached out to the ubiquitous pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell to air her grievances about an election that no Republican had any chance of winning — but that she’s convinced she did.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-unleas ... 50368.html

It’s not the GOP who think they are entitled. It’s the Democrats.

It was the Democrats who didn’t want to accept the 2016 result and tried to pull every trick in the book to destabilise the POTUS.

The GOO however is very willing to accept the results but you can expect a rough ride because it’s obvious that something doesn’t make sense. For instance, Trump gets 75 million votes and Biden comes through with over 80 million votes.

Questions exist over the Mail in ballots and Trump is within his rights to exercise his legal options to ensure electoral integrity.

Where integrity is definitely lacking is the MSM which spewed its propaganda throughout to trick the masses so that their guy wins.

Let’s get the facts straight.

Trump loses at the ballot box.
Trump files endless lawsuits of widespread election fraud but cannot produce any evidence.
The lower courts and the appeal courts ALL reject the claims.
Trump calls for state governors and election officials to rig the election and make him the winner, but they all told him to take a hike.
Then there is a direct lawsuit to the Supreme Court to give the election to Trump, and they told him to take a flying leap, even Trump’s 3 appointees to the court.

After all of the above, Trump and his supporters can’t accept being defeated, which means there’s no hope for them at all as they will be miserable for the rest of their lives instead of moving on gracefully.

Let’s look at the facts alright.

When Trump has an issue, he goes to court to have the matters heard.

When Trump won the 2016 election, the Democrats did not file a single case even after making the most outrageous of claims that Trump colluded with Russia and due to Russian interference won the election.

Why mere they not like Trump and take these accusations to the Judicial system?

by **Kikapu** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:09 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I am beginning to believe that the word “obfuscation” is your favourite word in your vast vocabulary!

I really did not vote for Biden per se. I actually like Kamala Harris more, a Californian gal. I mainly voted against Trump, along with the extra 15 million voters which Hillary did not get. Year 2020 killed Trump’s chances of winning on many fronts and ALL of his doing. Anyone who can screw up monopoly to win re-election does not deserve it because of their arrogance in thinking it was in the bag so that he can be as much a cunt he wants to be on the home stretch to 2nd term. I guess his old man never read the bedtime story to him, “The Tortoise and the Hare”. Now he has the time to read it before the next election in 2024!

Camela Harris is a GOP party asset. The GOPs Christ masses will come all at once when she takes over.

I don’t understand what you see in her.

But your story isn’t uncommon. Many people voted Democrats because they too believed the MSM propaganda of Orange Nan bad and just voted for Biden based on that. Low information voting,

But if you look at Biden’s speeches and Camela’s past then you wouldn’t vote at all.

And speaking of past, Camela has more of a past than Trump did. She spent more time on her knees or on her back with her heels up than any US Senator in history.

I would have voted for Linda Lovelace (Deep Throat) if she was alive over Trump.

Kamala has accomplished a great deal, for a girl born to immigrant parents of different race in the 60’s in crime ridden city of Oakland, California, just across the Bay Bridge from San Francisco. She faced many challenges to work her way to become US senator from California, and now the first woman as Vice President to become Madam President in good time.

What do you have against women who make it big in the Political and Judiciary sphere? :roll:

by **miltiades** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:50 pm

The Electoral College officially confirms Joe Biden as the next president today. .
Arsehole Trump still doesn't concede. He still thinks he ....won the election. What a PLONKER :lol: