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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:08 pm

Another reason why Trump is dangerous to Democracy as the Republican Party candidates believe they are entitled to win even when they have lost BIG by the will of the people. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Trump unleashes an army of sore losers

By David Siders
Sun, December 13, 2020, 1:00 PM GMT+1

It’s been five weeks since the election, and he still hasn’t conceded. Alleging massive voter fraud, he’s demanded an audit of votes in populous Democratic strongholds. On Thursday, he sued the secretary of state.

We’re talking here about Loren Culp, the unsuccessful Republican nominee for governor in Washington state, where he lost by more than 13 percentage points on Nov. 3. Like Donald Trump, Culp insists he’s the victim of a rigged election.

Trump, it seems, isn’t the only dead-ender holding out more than a month after the election, refusing to acknowledge defeat. Even as Trump lost again in court on Friday, with the Supreme Court rejecting a long-shot effort to overturn the election, he remains a lodestar for denialists of the GOP.

In California, a Republican congressional candidate trounced in Democratic-heavy Los Angeles is still refusing to concede — while simultaneously announcing he’s running for governor. In Maryland, a congressional candidate beaten by more than 40 percentage points is still complaining about “irregularities” in her election. And in Tennessee, a House candidate defeated by more than 57 percentage points has reached out to the ubiquitous pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell to air her grievances about an election that no Republican had any chance of winning — but that she’s convinced she did.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-unleas ... 50368.html
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:43 pm

Another reason why Trump is dangerous! :roll:


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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby miltiades » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:57 pm

What a blithering idiot this arsehole is.
He lost, should do the right thing and concede ig only to preserve the democratic principles of his country. As Socrates said, the definition of STUPIDITY is the repedition of something that is known to be false.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:14 pm

Oh, it’s Sunday, so let’s have some laughs, because the truth is too tragic! :wink:


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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Londonrake » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:59 pm

Kikapu wrote:No disrespect to Paphitis, but the “Blind Love” comment just signifies when one does not see the negatives in a person, and in this case, the person being Trump. :wink:


Forgive my persistence. And, I also think examples of Trump's character problems are prolific and impossible to explain away. I do believe though that they've been obsessively over-hyped.

In a world containing the likes of Putin, Xi Jinping, Khamenei and Kim Jong-un, all of whom rule absolutely, until death do us part, with (blood soaked) iron fists, Trump - who was always going to be a here today gone tomorrow phenomena - seems pretty small fry. The number of postings on forums dedicated to the man though must far exceed any comments people (might dare to) post on the dictators mentioned combined. That is, before those same "Liberals" ( :lol: ) who complain about Trump's authoritarian tendencies rush in to defend them of course. Don't you see it's all a bit hypocritical and "double think"? :?

Anyway, you said that Trump's actions in the last year had turned a lot of people against him. Paphitis replies that he got millions more votes than 2016, so obviously hasn't . You can't both be right. :?
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:58 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:No disrespect to Paphitis, but the “Blind Love” comment just signifies when one does not see the negatives in a person, and in this case, the person being Trump. :wink:


Forgive my persistence. And, I also think examples of Trump's character problems are prolific and impossible to explain away. I do believe though that they've been obsessively over-hyped.

In a world containing the likes of Putin, Xi Jinping, Khamenei and Kim Jong-un, all of whom rule absolutely, until death do us part, with (blood soaked) iron fists, Trump - who was always going to be a here today gone tomorrow phenomena - seems pretty small fry. The number of postings on forums dedicated to the man though must far exceed any comments people (might dare to) post on the dictators mentioned combined. That is, before those same "Liberals" ( :lol: ) who complain about Trump's authoritarian tendencies rush in to defend them of course. Don't you see it's all a bit hypocritical and "double think"? :?

Anyway, you said that Trump's actions in the last year had turned a lot of people against him. Paphitis replies that he got millions more votes than 2016, so obviously hasn't . You can't both be right. :?


No one I know here is in love with any of the dictators you have mentioned above, even though RH is a little defensive against Putin when it comes to America, but that’s him. Your argument is like saying one is better than the rest because one only beats his wife once a week and the rest does it 6 times a week. We are supposed to be living in a democracy in the USA in comparison to the rest you have mentioned. Hardly a level playing field to try to exonerate Trump’s negatives. :wink:

Yes, Trump got 7 million more votes in 2020 than 2016, assuming the dominion counting machines did no cheat and sent Biden’s votes to Trump instead :wink: (yes, what’s good for the goose, it’s also good for the gander), however, Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump, so what does that tell you, that either Trump could have gotten 14 million more votes or that 15 million more voters than what Hillary received in 2016 hated Trump to vote against him. The bottom number is, Trump lost by a landslide in popular vote and electoral college. Time to move on as soon as Trump accepts his defeat or when he gets evicted from the White House on January 20th. :D
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Londonrake » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:54 pm

Kikapu wrote:No one I know here is in love with any of the dictators you have mentioned above, even though RH is a little defensive against Putin when it comes to America, but that’s him. Your argument is like saying one is better than the rest because one only beats his wife once a week and the rest does it 6 times a week. We are supposed to be living in a democracy in the USA in comparison to the rest you have mentioned. Hardly a level playing field to try to exonerate Trump’s negatives. :wink:


Exonerate? Mmmm, I don't think so. :?

That's not really an appropriate analogy though is it? There's a period of turmoil at present but in essence Trump's history. Well, at least until late 2024. At which point he will of course be 78. Far too old to start a 4 year spell as leader of the free world. Ohh - wait a minute! :D

"Love" wasn't mentioned, or inferred, but if you think what I say's wrong try posting something critical of those dictators. Usually, you won't have to wait long before the pitter patter of tiny minds rushing in to defend. Normally in the form of "We've heard it all before. It's MSM nonsense" or such. That, no matter what they get up to. Those who'll float the most nebulous (absurd) conspiracy theories as being the obvious truth will normally contemptuously dismiss the likes of in yer face Russian shenanigans as fairy tales.

I think you're being very kind to RH in saying "a little defensive" I suspect he might even be a tad offended at that luke warm description :wink:

Nevertheless, all of those despots - because they certainly fit that definition - unlike Trump, have considerable blood on their hands. By that I mean the real bullet/bomb/state executions/assassination stuff, not victims of a pandemic. Moreover, again unlike our man Don, all of them will likely rule until either they decide not to, die naturally or somebody whacks them. Yet, they and their actions rarely appear on the forum (who would dare! :shock: ), whereas criticism of Trump's gaffes and idiocies form a daily diet. What are you all going to talk about when he's gone?? :shock: :D

Kikapu wrote:Yes, Trump got 7 million more votes in 2020 than 2016, assuming the dominion counting machines did no cheat and sent Biden’s votes to Trump instead :wink: (yes, what’s good for the goose, it’s also good for the gander), however, Biden got 7 million more votes than Trump, so what does that tell you, that either Trump could have gotten 14 million more votes or that 15 million more voters than what Hillary received in 2016 hated Trump to vote against him. The bottom number is, Trump lost by a landslide in popular vote and electoral college. Time to move on as soon as Trump accepts his defeat or when he gets evicted from the White House on January 20th. :D


Well, that's all a bit obfuscating but what it seems to tell me is that Paphitis was right and your assertion Trump was a victim of mass rejection doesn't really bear up. Whatever the stats and despite all the histrionics clearly he lost though and it's bye-bye Don time.

I sincerely hope Biden doesn't turn out to be an "I told you so" President. I think you get a better idea of the next 4 years by looking at those behind him. He's obviously just a congenial front man.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:33 pm

I am beginning to believe that the word “obfuscation” is your favourite word in your vast vocabulary! :wink: :D

I really did not vote for Biden per se. I actually like Kamala Harris more, a Californian gal. I mainly voted against Trump, along with the extra 15 million voters which Hillary did not get. Year 2020 killed Trump’s chances of winning on many fronts and ALL of his doing. Anyone who can screw up monopoly to win re-election does not deserve it because of their arrogance in thinking it was in the bag so that he can be as much a cunt he wants to be on the home stretch to 2nd term. I guess his old man never read the bedtime story to him, “The Tortoise and the Hare”. Now he has the time to read it before the next election in 2024! :D
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:59 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I've noticed - and this isn't aimed at anybody in here particularly but seems to apply cross-forum - it often seems the case, those most vociferously indignant about Trump's "stealing" the election (and AFAIA, he hasn't actually managed that) tend to be the self-same people who fought tooth-and-nail to support every effort by any means, fair or foul, to steal the UK's 2016 EU referendum result?

It seems, like so many things with "Liberals" ( :lol: ) - stealing, as with voting, is only OK.................... if it produces the "right" result.

Well, your examples would apply to both parties, Liberals and Conservatives, no? :wink:


Blimey, go for a coffee and the thread's moved to another galaxy. :shock: :D

I use the term Liberal in the wider sense, rather than a political party one of course. Yes, whilst there are people with liberal views in the Tory party and always have been (back in the ole days referred to as "Wets"), outside of Brexit, that great polariser, they've tended to be an exception to the rule. Whilst it's more a qualifying membership thing for left wingers.

I think "Liberal" in that respect is probably a top contender for the world champion misnomer title. I've met some of the worst racist bigots, vindictive, spiteful, hypocritical - fill in the blanks - among their ranks on various forums over the years than anything the so-called "Extreme right wingers" have produced.

A few posts ago I thought Paphitis made some valid points. To dismiss them with a throwaway one-liner (as in fact you've done here) about blind love doesn't do the thread justice and gives the impression of avoiding. Just sayin'


No disrespect to Paphitis, but the “Blind Love” comment just signifies when one does not see the negatives in a person, and in this case, the person being Trump. :wink:


Negatives?

The MSM have been going on and on about the negatives for 5 years. And you bought it.

Meanwhile, he brings the troops home, disengages America from long wars, pulls 17 million people out of poverty and overhauls the economy.

The blind are those who could not see his achievements because they were to gullible to be drawn in by the criminal MSM looking after the established elites.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:01 am

Another reason why Trump is dangerous, because his Party can’t accept losing, and more than that, that they were not able to steal the election using the courts. Can you believe these despicable cunts, that now they want Texas to secede from the Union because they lost an election and were not allowed to steal it to keep Trump at the helm at all cost. I say, fuck you, assholes. Shut up and take it like a man you bunch of pathetic pussies. :roll:

By the way, any state wanting to secede from the Union is not as easy as Brexit from the EU, therefore, Texas has ZERO chance going anywhere. :D


Business Insider
The Texas GOP had a fit after the Supreme Court rejected their bid to flip the election in Trump's favor, and now they're hinting at secession

Kelsey Vlamis
Sat, December 12, 2020, 2:58 AM GMT+1

Texas GOP Chairman Allen West suggested some states "should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution."

The Republican Party of Texas decried the US Supreme Court decision to reject a bid by some states to overturn the results of the presidential election.

The case, which was brought by Texas and joined by other Republican-led states, sought to overturn the results in four states won by President-elect Joe Biden. The court denied the lawsuit due to a lack of standing.

"Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution," Allen West, the Texas GOP chairman, said.

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The Republican Party of Texas decried the US Supreme Court decision to reject a bid by some states to overturn the results of the presidential election.

The case, which was brought by Texas and joined by other Republican-led states, sought to overturn the results in four states won by President-elect Joe Biden. The court denied the lawsuit due to a lack of standing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-gop-ha ... 30873.html
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