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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:09 am

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miltiades wrote:I have to agree with Paphitis's comments on Trump in 2016 when he said that Trump would be a dangerous man as the President of the USA. About the only time he, Paphitis, was right :lol:


I was probably as much anti-Trump as anyone but......................... "Dangerous"?

Trump was the first President since Eisenhower not to have had a war. When his hawkish advisors and generals told him he should carry out a strike on Iran, after they shot down a US drone in international gulf waters, he told them because no US troops had been killed they could fuck off. As I understand it he largely kept his promise to repatriate US troops.

Most of the - left wing saturation - criticism of Trump seems to have been based upon his odious character and habit of knee-jerk, dumb proclamations. I could personally have lived with that. Putin's efforts in the Ukraine bring about 13000 dead but the banner headline news has been "Have you seen this latest Trump tweet?? What an idiot!".

I hope I'm wrong but I suspect when it comes to US military involvement in foreign conflicts Biden will be your man. Time will tell of course.

Trump is dangerous and would have been even more had he got 2nd term. He created "war" at home amongst Americans. He is responsible for thousands of deaths by mismanaged Covid-19. When he claims he knows more than anyone else in everything, he is then very dangerous when he knows nothing in comparison to the professinals in their fields from science to the military.


It's impossible to rationally discuss aspects of the Trump phenomena without appearing to be in some way a supporter. Which immediately brings the ceiling down on you of course :shock: (witness what Paphitis has had thrown at him) and, actually, I never have been one.

I think though that perspective was skewed considerably during his term. The pandemic has taken it's toll on a lot of politicians. A good time to be in opposition perhaps? I suspect that, had it not been for the virus, we'd be looking at a second, possibly landslide, term for the man. Although, if you're right, Congress will shortly be burned down - the blame resting on BLM and Antifa. At which point Trump and his Nazi militias will seize power. In the interest of the people of course.


No, the ceiling does not come down on me, even if you were a Trump supporter. The only reason why Paphitis attracts too much attention as a Trump supporter, is because he does not point put Trump's fuck-ups, except for leaving the YPG in Syria to be massacred by Erdogan.
For Paphitis, Trump is the best thing since sliced bread. Pne would exvuse him if he was stupid, which he is not, therefore, in his case and all of Trump supporters the only rational explanation is that that Love is Blind.

Trump did not lose because of the Covid virus but because he has been a total cunt this year, which turned a lot of people against him, including from the conservative groups.

Trump was dangerous because he tried to steal the election which he lost by ordering officials to swing the votes in his way to win illegally. He filed many frivolous lawsuits in the hopes they would reach the Supreme court thinking he would carry favour with the judges he had appointed regardless whether the cases had any merit or not. If the Supreme court did what Trump wanted, democracy would have died in America then we would have had a Trump theocracy and wars on the streets. As an American I have more interest what happens there than those who are outsiders, just enjoying the show Trump puts on.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:38 am

...this, today,

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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:02 am

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miltiades wrote:I have to agree with Paphitis's comments on Trump in 2016 when he said that Trump would be a dangerous man as the President of the USA. About the only time he, Paphitis, was right :lol:


I was probably as much anti-Trump as anyone but......................... "Dangerous"?

Trump was the first President since Eisenhower not to have had a war. When his hawkish advisors and generals told him he should carry out a strike on Iran, after they shot down a US drone in international gulf waters, he told them because no US troops had been killed they could fuck off. As I understand it he largely kept his promise to repatriate US troops.

Most of the - left wing saturation - criticism of Trump seems to have been based upon his odious character and habit of knee-jerk, dumb proclamations. I could personally have lived with that. Putin's efforts in the Ukraine bring about 13000 dead but the banner headline news has been "Have you seen this latest Trump tweet?? What an idiot!".

I hope I'm wrong but I suspect when it comes to US military involvement in foreign conflicts Biden will be your man. Time will tell of course.


Trump has been the most peaceful POTUS in history. Probably since Eisenhower as you mentioned.

The only error I can actually pin on him is that he prematurely left Syria but he did stay true to his election promise of disengagement and bringing troops home. That he did.

But I feel very sorry and sad for the Kurds (YPG). They played a massive role in defeating ISIS. American involvement should have continued in Syria merely for the sake of the Kurds and the Kurdish Autonomous Area. The Coalition has a massive debt of gratitude to them.

Biden however will be more of the same old. It’s time for the US War Machine to clear the cobwebs. That’s what these fools voted for. War and destruction.

Problem is, it’s not the rich elites who will have their Sons and Daughters in some distant sandpit.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:05 am

Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
miltiades wrote:I have to agree with Paphitis's comments on Trump in 2016 when he said that Trump would be a dangerous man as the President of the USA. About the only time he, Paphitis, was right :lol:


I was probably as much anti-Trump as anyone but......................... "Dangerous"?

Trump was the first President since Eisenhower not to have had a war. When his hawkish advisors and generals told him he should carry out a strike on Iran, after they shot down a US drone in international gulf waters, he told them because no US troops had been killed they could fuck off. As I understand it he largely kept his promise to repatriate US troops.

Most of the - left wing saturation - criticism of Trump seems to have been based upon his odious character and habit of knee-jerk, dumb proclamations. I could personally have lived with that. Putin's efforts in the Ukraine bring about 13000 dead but the banner headline news has been "Have you seen this latest Trump tweet?? What an idiot!".

I hope I'm wrong but I suspect when it comes to US military involvement in foreign conflicts Biden will be your man. Time will tell of course.

Trump is dangerous and would have been even more had he got 2nd term. He created "war" at home amongst Americans. He is responsible for thousands of deaths by mismanaged Covid-19. When he claims he knows more than anyone else in everything, he is then very dangerous when he knows nothing in comparison to the professinals in their fields from science to the military.


It's impossible to rationally discuss aspects of the Trump phenomena without appearing to be in some way a supporter. Which immediately brings the ceiling down on you of course :shock: (witness what Paphitis has had thrown at him) and, actually, I never have been one.

I think though that perspective was skewed considerably during his term. The pandemic has taken it's toll on a lot of politicians. A good time to be in opposition perhaps? I suspect that, had it not been for the virus, we'd be looking at a second, possibly landslide, term for the man. Although, if you're right, Congress will shortly be burned down - the blame resting on BLM and Antifa. At which point Trump and his Nazi militias will seize power. In the interest of the people of course.


No, the ceiling does not come down on me, even if you were a Trump supporter. The only reason why Paphitis attracts too much attention as a Trump supporter, is because he does not point put Trump's fuck-ups, except for leaving the YPG in Syria to be massacred by Erdogan.
For Paphitis, Trump is the best thing since sliced bread. Pne would exvuse him if he was stupid, which he is not, therefore, in his case and all of Trump supporters the only rational explanation is that that Love is Blind.

Trump did not lose because of the Covid virus but because he has been a total cunt this year, which turned a lot of people against him, including from the conservative groups.

Trump was dangerous because he tried to steal the election which he lost by ordering officials to swing the votes in his way to win illegally. He filed many frivolous lawsuits in the hopes they would reach the Supreme court thinking he would carry favour with the judges he had appointed regardless whether the cases had any merit or not. If the Supreme court did what Trump wanted, democracy would have died in America then we would have had a Trump theocracy and wars on the streets. As an American I have more interest what happens there than those who are outsiders, just enjoying the show Trump puts on.


Trump got 7 million more votes than he did in 2016 so clearly, he didn’t turn people against him.

Obviously, Americans agreed with his policies abd endorsed his Presidency.

And that against all the odds as he had all the MSM media against him which polarised the low information voters to come out to vote for someone who would struggle to remember how to spell his name. And this is where all the nuclear codes will be entrusted to. Remember when they were saying that about Trump. That he is a war monger and he will start wars everywhere.

Well he promised he wouldn’t and he didn’t.

As mentioned above, everyone was calling for Airstrikes. He said no. A drone shooting down was not enough to warrant airstrikes against Iran. I happen to agree with that. It would be different if US personnel perished.

The above stability was something that put Trump in a league of his own. That is leadership.

If it was Clinton, there would be war or Cruise Missile Strikes at the very least.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:12 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
miltiades wrote:I have to agree with Paphitis's comments on Trump in 2016 when he said that Trump would be a dangerous man as the President of the USA. About the only time he, Paphitis, was right :lol:


I was probably as much anti-Trump as anyone but......................... "Dangerous"?

Trump was the first President since Eisenhower not to have had a war. When his hawkish advisors and generals told him he should carry out a strike on Iran, after they shot down a US drone in international gulf waters, he told them because no US troops had been killed they could fuck off. As I understand it he largely kept his promise to repatriate US troops.

Most of the - left wing saturation - criticism of Trump seems to have been based upon his odious character and habit of knee-jerk, dumb proclamations. I could personally have lived with that. Putin's efforts in the Ukraine bring about 13000 dead but the banner headline news has been "Have you seen this latest Trump tweet?? What an idiot!".

I hope I'm wrong but I suspect when it comes to US military involvement in foreign conflicts Biden will be your man. Time will tell of course.

Trump is dangerous and would have been even more had he got 2nd term. He created "war" at home amongst Americans. He is responsible for thousands of deaths by mismanaged Covid-19. When he claims he knows more than anyone else in everything, he is then very dangerous when he knows nothing in comparison to the professinals in their fields from science to the military.


It's impossible to rationally discuss aspects of the Trump phenomena without appearing to be in some way a supporter. Which immediately brings the ceiling down on you of course :shock: (witness what Paphitis has had thrown at him) and, actually, I never have been one.

I think though that perspective was skewed considerably during his term. The pandemic has taken it's toll on a lot of politicians. A good time to be in opposition perhaps? I suspect that, had it not been for the virus, we'd be looking at a second, possibly landslide, term for the man. Although, if you're right, Congress will shortly be burned down - the blame resting on BLM and Antifa. At which point Trump and his Nazi militias will seize power. In the interest of the people of course.


No, the ceiling does not come down on me, even if you were a Trump supporter. The only reason why Paphitis attracts too much attention as a Trump supporter, is because he does not point put Trump's fuck-ups, except for leaving the YPG in Syria to be massacred by Erdogan.
For Paphitis, Trump is the best thing since sliced bread. Pne would exvuse him if he was stupid, which he is not, therefore, in his case and all of Trump supporters the only rational explanation is that that Love is Blind.

Trump did not lose because of the Covid virus but because he has been a total cunt this year, which turned a lot of people against him, including from the conservative groups.

Trump was dangerous because he tried to steal the election which he lost by ordering officials to swing the votes in his way to win illegally. He filed many frivolous lawsuits in the hopes they would reach the Supreme court thinking he would carry favour with the judges he had appointed regardless whether the cases had any merit or not. If the Supreme court did what Trump wanted, democracy would have died in America then we would have had a Trump theocracy and wars on the streets. As an American I have more interest what happens there than those who are outsiders, just enjoying the show Trump puts on.


Trump got 7 million more votes than he did in 2016 so clearly, he didn’t turn people against him.

Obviously, Americans agreed with his policies abd endorsed his Presidency.

And that against all the odds as he had all the MSM media against him which polarised the low information voters to come out to vote for someone who would struggle to remember how to spell his name. And this is where all the nuclear codes will be entrusted to. Remember when they were saying that about Trump. That he is a war monger and he will start wars everywhere.

Well he promised he wouldn’t and he didn’t.

As mentioned above, everyone was calling for Airstrikes. He said no. A drone shooting down was not enough to warrant airstrikes against Iran. I happen to agree with that. It would be different if US personnel perished.

The above stability was something that put Trump in a league of his own. That is leadership.

If it was Clinton, there would be war or Cruise Missile Strikes at the very least.


Thank you, Paphitis for proving my point, that Love really is Blind! :wink: :D
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby miltiades » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:21 am

Both you General and arsehole Trum are idiots.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:53 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
miltiades wrote:I have to agree with Paphitis's comments on Trump in 2016 when he said that Trump would be a dangerous man as the President of the USA. About the only time he, Paphitis, was right :lol:


I was probably as much anti-Trump as anyone but......................... "Dangerous"?

Trump was the first President since Eisenhower not to have had a war. When his hawkish advisors and generals told him he should carry out a strike on Iran, after they shot down a US drone in international gulf waters, he told them because no US troops had been killed they could fuck off. As I understand it he largely kept his promise to repatriate US troops.

Most of the - left wing saturation - criticism of Trump seems to have been based upon his odious character and habit of knee-jerk, dumb proclamations. I could personally have lived with that. Putin's efforts in the Ukraine bring about 13000 dead but the banner headline news has been "Have you seen this latest Trump tweet?? What an idiot!".

I hope I'm wrong but I suspect when it comes to US military involvement in foreign conflicts Biden will be your man. Time will tell of course.

Trump is dangerous and would have been even more had he got 2nd term. He created "war" at home amongst Americans. He is responsible for thousands of deaths by mismanaged Covid-19. When he claims he knows more than anyone else in everything, he is then very dangerous when he knows nothing in comparison to the professinals in their fields from science to the military.


It's impossible to rationally discuss aspects of the Trump phenomena without appearing to be in some way a supporter. Which immediately brings the ceiling down on you of course :shock: (witness what Paphitis has had thrown at him) and, actually, I never have been one.

I think though that perspective was skewed considerably during his term. The pandemic has taken it's toll on a lot of politicians. A good time to be in opposition perhaps? I suspect that, had it not been for the virus, we'd be looking at a second, possibly landslide, term for the man. Although, if you're right, Congress will shortly be burned down - the blame resting on BLM and Antifa. At which point Trump and his Nazi militias will seize power. In the interest of the people of course.


No, the ceiling does not come down on me, even if you were a Trump supporter. The only reason why Paphitis attracts too much attention as a Trump supporter, is because he does not point put Trump's fuck-ups, except for leaving the YPG in Syria to be massacred by Erdogan.
For Paphitis, Trump is the best thing since sliced bread. Pne would exvuse him if he was stupid, which he is not, therefore, in his case and all of Trump supporters the only rational explanation is that that Love is Blind.

Trump did not lose because of the Covid virus but because he has been a total cunt this year, which turned a lot of people against him, including from the conservative groups.

Trump was dangerous because he tried to steal the election which he lost by ordering officials to swing the votes in his way to win illegally. He filed many frivolous lawsuits in the hopes they would reach the Supreme court thinking he would carry favour with the judges he had appointed regardless whether the cases had any merit or not. If the Supreme court did what Trump wanted, democracy would have died in America then we would have had a Trump theocracy and wars on the streets. As an American I have more interest what happens there than those who are outsiders, just enjoying the show Trump puts on.


Trump got 7 million more votes than he did in 2016 so clearly, he didn’t turn people against him.

Obviously, Americans agreed with his policies abd endorsed his Presidency.

And that against all the odds as he had all the MSM media against him which polarised the low information voters to come out to vote for someone who would struggle to remember how to spell his name. And this is where all the nuclear codes will be entrusted to. Remember when they were saying that about Trump. That he is a war monger and he will start wars everywhere.

Well he promised he wouldn’t and he didn’t.

As mentioned above, everyone was calling for Airstrikes. He said no. A drone shooting down was not enough to warrant airstrikes against Iran. I happen to agree with that. It would be different if US personnel perished.

The above stability was something that put Trump in a league of his own. That is leadership.

If it was Clinton, there would be war or Cruise Missile Strikes at the very least.


Thank you, Paphitis for proving my point, that Love really is Blind! :wink: :D


It’s got nothing to do with love.

Just cold harsh reality, policies and his general behaviour which Kikapu is all of the below and more.

Trump was a visionary. He transformed the economy and took the US down a different path towards pacifism. In other words, he didn’t start wars needlessly and proved to be quite measured and reasonable when dealing with the likes of Iran and others.

He wasn’t the trigger happy war monger like the guy you voted for.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Londonrake » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:09 am

I've noticed - and this isn't aimed at anybody in here particularly but seems to apply cross-forum - it often seems the case, those most vociferously indignant about Trump's "stealing" the election (and AFAIA, he hasn't actually managed that) tend to be the self-same people who fought tooth-and-nail to support every effort by any means, fair or foul, to steal the UK's 2016 EU referendum result?

It seems, like so many things with "Liberals" ( :lol: ) - stealing, as with voting, is only OK.................... if it produces the "right" result.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:27 am

Londonrake wrote:I've noticed - and this isn't aimed at anybody in here particularly but seems to apply cross-forum - it often seems the case, those most vociferously indignant about Trump's "stealing" the election (and AFAIA, he hasn't actually managed that) tend to be the self-same people who fought tooth-and-nail to support every effort by any means, fair or foul, to steal the UK's 2016 EU referendum result?

It seems, like so many things with "Liberals" ( :lol: ) - stealing, as with voting, is only OK.................... if it produces the "right" result.

Well, your examples would apply to both parties, Liberals and Conservatives, no? :wink:
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:01 am

Londonrake wrote:I've noticed - and this isn't aimed at anybody in here particularly but seems to apply cross-forum - it often seems the case, those most vociferously indignant about Trump's "stealing" the election (and AFAIA, he hasn't actually managed that) tend to be the self-same people who fought tooth-and-nail to support every effort by any means, fair or foul, to steal the UK's 2016 EU referendum result?

It seems, like so many things with "Liberals" ( :lol: ) - stealing, as with voting, is only OK.................... if it produces the "right" result.


It’s about to get a whole lot worse.

The Billionaire elites, whom the Democrats support are pushing for Agenda 21 or The Great Reset.

“You will own nothing and be happy”

It’s the so called 4th industrial revolution. We will own nothing and rent everything,

But if we own nothing, where is our rent going?

This isn’t a conspiracy theory. It’s a very real thing. Prince Charles is one of the elites pushing for it,

With Trump out of the way, it gets easier.

The UK has done the right thing to get out of the EU.

And yes it’s the same people alright. They wanted to steal the Brexit result. They wanted to steal Trump’s 2016 election result. And the MSM is silent over the Biden FBI investigation.

This is the corruption they support. Not me.
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