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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:02 pm

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Kikapu wrote:In all seriousness, I can’t Trump running in 2024 because he won’t have the base he has now. Americans have a very short attention span and 4 years is just way too far to know what will happen. Up to early this year, Trump was on a cruise control to be re elected, but he messed it up with not doing enough with COVID-19 and the demonstration/riots after police brutality in murdering citizens. He then doubled down his mistakes by planning more on how to steal the elections after the fact if he lost it than actually plan to win it outright from the beginning, which he could have done very easily, but it is never in Trump’s blood to play fair and win.Typical mind of a dictator wannabe.


He’ll have the base.

Trump is extremely popular and he is more popular right now than at election time. If another election were to take place, Biden’s gone.

The only way the Democrats can defeat Trump is by having a stellar 4 years and stead away from the old politics of Obama, Bush and co. I doubt that’s possible.[ /quote]
You do talk a load of shit don't you !! You seem.to constantly get everything wrong, first you said Trim was an idiot.and a dangerous man, then.you fall 8n love with him. Well
I suppose....multi millionaires can aff9rd to make fo9ls of them selves.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby DT. » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:10 pm

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Londonrake wrote:I suspect ending up with a black lady President by default would upset a lot of those hillbillys. :shock:



A lot of people will be upset and it won’t have anything to do about her skin colour or gender. This is 2021 and America is probably one of the most liberal countries in the world. Skin colour, gender, race, religion have no bearing. Americans will give anyone a go.

Those types of attitudes are more prevalent in Cyprus as it isn’t as liberal as US by any stretch. I doubt I will ever see a female Cypriot President in my lifetime. Now compare Cyprus with the UK who had Thatcher in the 80s. Well actually, I reckon she had balls. Bigger ones than many men! :lol:

I suspect, the reason that most people will find annoying about Camela is the fact she wasn’t elected as POTUS, and she is quite insufferable in terms of her holier than thou extreme socialist policies and that voice where she talks to the people like they are 5 years old.

Plus she has a reputation to have slept her way through most US Senators and Congressmen to get where she is today. :lol:


America is plagued with institutional racism the isn't witnessed in other countries, so much so that affirmative action swings minorities into places of power but still doesn't recover any quality of life for the lower classes. In fact affirmative action helps these right wing nuts to grab onto the momentum of a swinging pendulum because someone of colour was elected into office.

Having female leaders is not the sign of a progressive society as you can see from Turkey, Pakistan and India who have all had female leaders.

I'm also surprised you don't stop yourself while discussing your progressiveness when you fund yourself discussing her looks, how she slept her way to the top and her shrieking voice. These wouldn't have been in your vocabulary when discussing a male politician. Its time you evolved away from this backwater Australian culture Paphitis and recognise women for the people they are.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:40 pm

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I suspect ending up with a black lady President by default would upset a lot of those hillbillys. :shock:



A lot of people will be upset and it won’t have anything to do about her skin colour or gender. This is 2021 and America is probably one of the most liberal countries in the world. Skin colour, gender, race, religion have no bearing. Americans will give anyone a go.

Those types of attitudes are more prevalent in Cyprus as it isn’t as liberal as US by any stretch. I doubt I will ever see a female Cypriot President in my lifetime. Now compare Cyprus with the UK who had Thatcher in the 80s. Well actually, I reckon she had balls. Bigger ones than many men! :lol:

I suspect, the reason that most people will find annoying about Camela is the fact she wasn’t elected as POTUS, and she is quite insufferable in terms of her holier than thou extreme socialist policies and that voice where she talks to the people like they are 5 years old.

Plus she has a reputation to have slept her way through most US Senators and Congressmen to get where she is today. :lol:


I'm also surprised you don't stop yourself while discussing your progressiveness when you fund yourself discussing her looks, how she slept her way to the top and her shrieking voice. These wouldn't have been in your vocabulary when discussing a male politician. Its time you evolved away from this backwater Australian culture Paphitis and recognise women for the people they are.


I don’t think Paphitis is a male chauvinist from the old school, but only a selective male chauvinism depending which political party she belongs to. It is more of a “political racism” than anything else. Most Trump supporters parrot anything Trump says, which is their downfall, hence being labeled as being “brain-dead”. :wink:
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby DT. » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:22 pm

Kikapu wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I suspect ending up with a black lady President by default would upset a lot of those hillbillys. :shock:



A lot of people will be upset and it won’t have anything to do about her skin colour or gender. This is 2021 and America is probably one of the most liberal countries in the world. Skin colour, gender, race, religion have no bearing. Americans will give anyone a go.

Those types of attitudes are more prevalent in Cyprus as it isn’t as liberal as US by any stretch. I doubt I will ever see a female Cypriot President in my lifetime. Now compare Cyprus with the UK who had Thatcher in the 80s. Well actually, I reckon she had balls. Bigger ones than many men! :lol:

I suspect, the reason that most people will find annoying about Camela is the fact she wasn’t elected as POTUS, and she is quite insufferable in terms of her holier than thou extreme socialist policies and that voice where she talks to the people like they are 5 years old.

Plus she has a reputation to have slept her way through most US Senators and Congressmen to get where she is today. :lol:


I'm also surprised you don't stop yourself while discussing your progressiveness when you fund yourself discussing her looks, how she slept her way to the top and her shrieking voice. These wouldn't have been in your vocabulary when discussing a male politician. Its time you evolved away from this backwater Australian culture Paphitis and recognise women for the people they are.


I don’t think Paphitis is a male chauvinist from the old school, but only a selective male chauvinism depending which political party she belongs to. It is more of a “political racism” than anything else. Most Trump supporters parrot anything Trump says, which is their downfall, hence being labeled as being “brain-dead”. :wink:


True..poor Paphitis :(

reminds me of the Schindlers List quote: They cast a spell on you, you know, the Jews. When you work closely with them, like I do, you see this. They have this power. It's like a virus. Some of my men are infected with this virus. They should be pitied, not punished. They should receive treatment because this is as real as typhus. I see it all the time. It's a matter of money? Hmm?"
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:23 pm

DT. wrote:America is plagued with institutional racism the isn't witnessed in other countries, so much so that affirmative action swings minorities into places of power but still doesn't recover any quality of life for the lower classes. In fact affirmative action helps these right wing nuts to grab onto the momentum of a swinging pendulum because someone of colour was elected into office.

Having female leaders is not the sign of a progressive society as you can see from Turkey, Pakistan and India who have all had female leaders.

I'm also surprised you don't stop yourself while discussing your progressiveness when you fund yourself discussing her looks, how she slept her way to the top and her shrieking voice. These wouldn't have been in your vocabulary when discussing a male politician. Its time you evolved away from this backwater Australian culture Paphitis and recognise women for the people they are.

Ouch... the pain was felt from Adelaide to Tseri! :lol:
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:40 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:50% of Americans do not vote, mainly the young people. After Biden turns over the presidential reins over to Kamala halfway through his presidency, Kamala will become a great influential role model to the young people, especially to the young females. Say what you will, but Kamala has a very beautiful face and reassuring voice. She will become a political force to recon with. Americans did not vote for Biden per se, but they voted against Trump. In 4 years time, Trump will remain the prick he is today but Kamala will claim her own rights with the people in the 2 years she will have to establish herself as a president before 2024 elections.


What kind of role model is she? Teaching young girls they can do anything if they be like her? :lol:

They won’t go for it especially if it’s handed to her. They tried this in Australia when the Prime Ministership was handed over twice and it ended in disaster. Australians didn’t go for it because they voted another guy and expect that guy to see it through.

The worst thing Biden can do is hand over in the first year.

This isn’t about bursary. Thatcher was an ugly dog. But high office isn’t a breath pageant. It’s serious business.

Plus I don’t think Camela is pretty anyway. She doesn’t have to be. But her voice is insufferable,

Camela is no Condoleeza Rice. She would have made a great POTUS if you are looking for the token female black woman just to tick a box. Now that is a woman that is an achiever and doesn’t need to be degrading to women to get somewhere.


Well, don’t forget that Trump has lowered the bar to become a President so much that even 78 year old “sleepy Joe” kicked his heinie. :D

Kamala as a mixed race woman from immigrant parents working her way through school and politics has done much more than Condi. Rice was never elected to any political or judiciary office, but only appointed. Do not underestimate Kamala, especially after couple of years under her belt as , Madam President! :wink:


What happened is the media polarised the people so much to the point the turn out was the highest in US History.

It wouldn’t have mattered who the Democrats had up. Could have had Daffy Duck.

Trump supporters however voted because they wanted an alternative and they wanted to be listened too especially in the poorer states where many were long term unemployed without much prospect of getting a job.

The reason why Trump attracted good support from the blacks and huge support from Latinos is because Trump lifted the living standards of the most downtrodden areas, opening millions of jobs. Whoever was able to get a job and put good food on the table because of it gave their vote to Trump. These are the forgotten people.

No one buys into racism and the virtue signal soap opera box when they have improved their living conditions and circumstances because of the economic policies.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:45 pm

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:In all seriousness, I can’t Trump running in 2024 because he won’t have the base he has now. Americans have a very short attention span and 4 years is just way too far to know what will happen. Up to early this year, Trump was on a cruise control to be re elected, but he messed it up with not doing enough with COVID-19 and the demonstration/riots after police brutality in murdering citizens. He then doubled down his mistakes by planning more on how to steal the elections after the fact if he lost it than actually plan to win it outright from the beginning, which he could have done very easily, but it is never in Trump’s blood to play fair and win.Typical mind of a dictator wannabe.


He’ll have the base.

Trump is extremely popular and he is more popular right now than at election time. If another election were to take place, Biden’s gone.

The only way the Democrats can defeat Trump is by having a stellar 4 years and stead away from the old politics of Obama, Bush and co. I doubt that’s possible.[ /quote]
You do talk a load of shit don't you !! You seem.to constantly get everything wrong, first you said Trim was an idiot.and a dangerous man, then.you fall 8n love with him. Well
I suppose....multi millionaires can aff9rd to make fo9ls of them selves.


Hic! Pissed again. I told you many times to quote properly. It’s hugely embarrassing when your rants are associated with my name.

Yes here is a fact for you. Trump is popular. Hugely popular. And he is about to become more popular if Biden turns out to be a lame duck. He has been one for 47 years so shouldn’t be any different now.

Plus, that TV network he will open should attract good market share.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:47 pm

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I suspect ending up with a black lady President by default would upset a lot of those hillbillys. :shock:



A lot of people will be upset and it won’t have anything to do about her skin colour or gender. This is 2021 and America is probably one of the most liberal countries in the world. Skin colour, gender, race, religion have no bearing. Americans will give anyone a go.

Those types of attitudes are more prevalent in Cyprus as it isn’t as liberal as US by any stretch. I doubt I will ever see a female Cypriot President in my lifetime. Now compare Cyprus with the UK who had Thatcher in the 80s. Well actually, I reckon she had balls. Bigger ones than many men! :lol:

I suspect, the reason that most people will find annoying about Camela is the fact she wasn’t elected as POTUS, and she is quite insufferable in terms of her holier than thou extreme socialist policies and that voice where she talks to the people like they are 5 years old.

Plus she has a reputation to have slept her way through most US Senators and Congressmen to get where she is today. :lol:


America is plagued with institutional racism the isn't witnessed in other countries, so much so that affirmative action swings minorities into places of power but still doesn't recover any quality of life for the lower classes. In fact affirmative action helps these right wing nuts to grab onto the momentum of a swinging pendulum because someone of colour was elected into office.

Having female leaders is not the sign of a progressive society as you can see from Turkey, Pakistan and India who have all had female leaders.

I'm also surprised you don't stop yourself while discussing your progressiveness when you fund yourself discussing her looks, how she slept her way to the top and her shrieking voice. These wouldn't have been in your vocabulary when discussing a male politician. Its time you evolved away from this backwater Australian culture Paphitis and recognise women for the people they are.


Nonsense.

It’s no different to Australia. Certainly no institutional racism.

Maybe isolated pockets of it and in smaller communities especially.

Affirmative action is a Democrat policy. GOP is far more merit based. It’s anti quotas.

Basically, affirmative action is racism.

Democrats want a female POTUS for the sake of it. A tick in the box. The token female.

GOP supporters will put a female in when they find the right one with the right stuff and drive to be a go getter like Condaleeza Rice was.
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby DT. » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:54 pm

Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I suspect ending up with a black lady President by default would upset a lot of those hillbillys. :shock:



A lot of people will be upset and it won’t have anything to do about her skin colour or gender. This is 2021 and America is probably one of the most liberal countries in the world. Skin colour, gender, race, religion have no bearing. Americans will give anyone a go.

Those types of attitudes are more prevalent in Cyprus as it isn’t as liberal as US by any stretch. I doubt I will ever see a female Cypriot President in my lifetime. Now compare Cyprus with the UK who had Thatcher in the 80s. Well actually, I reckon she had balls. Bigger ones than many men! :lol:

I suspect, the reason that most people will find annoying about Camela is the fact she wasn’t elected as POTUS, and she is quite insufferable in terms of her holier than thou extreme socialist policies and that voice where she talks to the people like they are 5 years old.

Plus she has a reputation to have slept her way through most US Senators and Congressmen to get where she is today. :lol:


America is plagued with institutional racism the isn't witnessed in other countries, so much so that affirmative action swings minorities into places of power but still doesn't recover any quality of life for the lower classes. In fact affirmative action helps these right wing nuts to grab onto the momentum of a swinging pendulum because someone of colour was elected into office.

Having female leaders is not the sign of a progressive society as you can see from Turkey, Pakistan and India who have all had female leaders.

I'm also surprised you don't stop yourself while discussing your progressiveness when you fund yourself discussing her looks, how she slept her way to the top and her shrieking voice. These wouldn't have been in your vocabulary when discussing a male politician. Its time you evolved away from this backwater Australian culture Paphitis and recognise women for the people they are.


Nonsense.

It’s no different to Australia. Certainly no institutional racism.

Maybe isolated pockets of it and in smaller communities especially.

Affirmative action is a Democrat policy. GOP is far more merit based. It’s anti quotas.

Basically, affirmative action is racism.

Democrats want a female POTUS for the sake of it. A tick in the box. The token female.

GOP supporters will put a female in when they find the right one with the right stuff and drive to be a go getter like Condaleeza Rice was.


I've met Condi, terrific woman. Shame the GOP went with Sarah Palin though :lol:
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Re: The US Election Thread: Trump Lives Matter

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:04 pm

Kikapu wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I suspect ending up with a black lady President by default would upset a lot of those hillbillys. :shock:



A lot of people will be upset and it won’t have anything to do about her skin colour or gender. This is 2021 and America is probably one of the most liberal countries in the world. Skin colour, gender, race, religion have no bearing. Americans will give anyone a go.

Those types of attitudes are more prevalent in Cyprus as it isn’t as liberal as US by any stretch. I doubt I will ever see a female Cypriot President in my lifetime. Now compare Cyprus with the UK who had Thatcher in the 80s. Well actually, I reckon she had balls. Bigger ones than many men! :lol:

I suspect, the reason that most people will find annoying about Camela is the fact she wasn’t elected as POTUS, and she is quite insufferable in terms of her holier than thou extreme socialist policies and that voice where she talks to the people like they are 5 years old.

Plus she has a reputation to have slept her way through most US Senators and Congressmen to get where she is today. :lol:


I'm also surprised you don't stop yourself while discussing your progressiveness when you fund yourself discussing her looks, how she slept her way to the top and her shrieking voice. These wouldn't have been in your vocabulary when discussing a male politician. Its time you evolved away from this backwater Australian culture Paphitis and recognise women for the people they are.


I don’t think Paphitis is a male chauvinist from the old school, but only a selective male chauvinism depending which political party she belongs to. It is more of a “political racism” than anything else. Most Trump supporters parrot anything Trump says, which is their downfall, hence being labeled as being “brain-dead”. :wink:


Oh I’m no chauvinist. I’d be very happy for females to gain high office and also the highest office and my political views change and swing.

I am just as happy to support Democrat if and when they actually put forward someone that befits their ideals. They, like most political party on that side of the spectrum do not represent or stand for what they say they stand for for.

I’ll give you an example.

In Australia, we had a PM that was very popular in the 80s. A man of conviction and a man of the people. He was beer swiggling and quite the earthy clown at times, and a bulldog in the political sphere. A fair person. One of our most popular. I lost faith with him during the pilot strike. Then we had Paul Keating. Another brilliant statesman but his mistake was the recession we had to have.

2 great men of Labor that stood for Labor and liberal ideals and close to the people.

Then we had Howard who is basically GOP. Another man of conviction and he too stood for the battler. He called us his little battlers. The great Aussie battlers. Tax cuts, pay rises, low unemployment and a booming economy.

We then had Abbott who was also good but after him it turned to shit till we got Scott. We have never had a Labor leader that is actually authentic.

I’ll support a female candidate when I feel that female is able to step in those shoes.
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