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[repulsewarrior]

...what Turkey says, and what Russia does, are two different things; but you are right, now it's a party.

[Maximus]

Russia says it is a show of force against NATO and not a show that they are backing Turkey,

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... urkey-says

Turkey thinks she can flip flop between NATO and Russia, and by sending that NAVTEX, is trying to give the impression that Russia supports her claims.

But Turkey is in NATO....and Russia certainly doesnt have any claims to EEZ in the med.

[repulsewarrior]

[Paphitis]

Well, NOW we've got a party!

https://knews.kathimerini.com.cy/en/new ... gt_Uj49oqA

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I wonder what Russia’s spokesperson, Robin Hood has to say for himself?

[Paphitis]

Well looks like Russia’s response is clear.

Plus it does appear that the exercise has more to do with pissing NATO off than stuffing around with Cyprus.

Russia is trying to pull Turkey out of NATO.

I’m supporting Russia 100%

Da! I nid vuudka!

[repulsewarrior]

https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/09/03/russ ... ment-says/

...as clear as it gets, Turkish Propaganda; Cyprus was informed and had given their permission already: Turkey merely took advantage of the notice which was sent Internationally.

[Londonrake]

Well, NOW we've got a party!

https://knews.kathimerini.com.cy/en/new ... gt_Uj49oqA

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I wonder what Russia’s spokesperson, Robin Hood has to say for himself?

More interesting, GR. The Demi-God Putin’s forces, aligned (even notionally) with the Dark Lord of Turkey. A dilemma!

For me? Two dictator peas in a pod.

[Paphitis]

Well, NOW we've got a party!

https://knews.kathimerini.com.cy/en/new ... gt_Uj49oqA

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I wonder what Russia’s spokesperson, Robin Hood has to say for himself?

More interesting, GR. The Demi-God Putin’s forces, aligned (even notionally) with the Dark Lord of Turkey. A dilemma!

For me? Two dictator peas in a pod.

Yeh, Russia does seem a lot more closer to Turkey these days.

Oh and they try to spin it that Trump and Erdowan are best pals. I wonder what Trump's Son in law has to say about that!

[Paphitis]

Trump has been on the phone, with both Erdowan and Mitsotakis.

he tried to pressure both sides to start talking.

Erdowan, said Turkey is prepared to negotiate.

Greece told Trump, there is nothing to negotiate with Turkey. Mitsotakis added that Turkey must desist with all drilling and research activities within the Greek EEZ.

The EU are in a spin, same with NATO. Merkel very active trying to pressure Erdowan also.

Greek F-16s also arrived in Paphos today.

[Maximus]

After lots of lashing out and accusing Greece of taking a miximalist position, while taking a miximalist illegitimate position themselves, they want to talk without preconditions.

What that means is that they dont want to base the negotiations on any internationally recognized legal framework because they know that the internationally recognized UN law of the sea supports Greece rights. They want to negotiate on a give and take basis where they take what doesnt legitimately belong to them under the treat of force and give nothing. They are predictable.

Greece is correct, there is nothing to talk about, Turkey has to just accept that she doesnt have any legal right further to what her legal rights in the east med are. They are clearly defined and she is the one searching in other countries EEZ creating the tensions. Turkeys rights are not what she claims, her claims are lies and not compatible with international law, like Endorgan so often professes. Turkey does have rights, but they stop halfway between the other countries in the neighborhood. Because they have the same rights as well.

I wouldnt be surprise if Cyprus gets hung out to dry in all this.

All the focus is on the military build up by Greece, France but the Turkish violations of Cyprus's EEZ are being ignored.

These "talks" are just the tip of the iceberg and it is better than chest beating and firing in the air like a buffoon. Once you engage with Turkey about "problems" that they create, they go on and on and on without resolution. Because they dont want to accept any law or good ethics to be included with them. You might as well be talking with a Turkey.