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Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:54 am

For the benefit of our British friends LR, CG, TD and RH:

Remember the painful 3 years of EU Brexit Limbo. Where Britain was trying to BREXIT and some traitors in the British Parliament and elsewhere were forcing hard BREXIT off the table. This only undermined British interests and undermined the UK against the EU and it’s bargaining power allowing the EU to do as it pleases with the UK and take away the dignity of UK as a whole and the British people.

It was only when The Conservatives won a landslide and the swamp was drained, when BORIS was able to put Hard Brexit on the table. All of a sudden, the EU started to back peddle. The very thing the EU feared the most was being thrown into their faces. UK was able to negotiate on fairer terms.

It’s the same thing here with the crisis between Greece and Turkey, if war is removed from the table, then Greece can only disadvantage itself. Turkey will do what it wants when it wants. Just like hard BREXIT, war must remain on the table in terms of Greece defending itself.

No one can expect Greece to keep backing down like it has always done and then getting shafted like the UK was for 3 years by the EU.

If any Brits feel like that is outside of their comfort zone, then may I remind you all that you chose to live in Cyprus. If it is an issue, you should have gone to New Zealand instead.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:56 am

Londonrake wrote:http://famagusta-gazette.com/2020/08/31/cyprus-media-french-naval-flagship-heads-to-eastern-mediterranean/

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I hope this is true.

If it is, it could be a sign that France isn't about to take any shit from Erdowan.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby miltiades » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:04 pm

Paphitis wrote:For the benefit of our British friends LR, CG, TD and RH:

Remember the painful 3 years of EU Brexit Limbo. Where Britain was trying to BREXIT and some traitors in the British Parliament and elsewhere were forcing hard BREXIT off the table. This only undermined British interests and undermined the UK against the EU and it’s bargaining power allowing the EU to do as it pleases with the UK and take away the dignity of UK as a whole and the British people.

It was only when The Conservatives won a landslide and the swamp was drained, when BORIS was able to put Hard Brexit on the table. All of a sudden, the EU started to back peddle. The very thing the EU feared the most was being thrown into their faces. UK was able to negotiate on fairer terms.

It’s the same thing here with the crisis between Greece and Turkey, if war is removed from the table, then Greece can only disadvantage itself. Turkey will do what it wants when it wants. Just like hard BREXIT, war must remain on the table in terms of Greece defending itself.

No one can expect Greece to keep backing down like it has always done and then getting shafted like the UK was for 3 years by the EU.

If any Brits feel like that is outside of their comfort zone, then may I remind you all that you chose to live in Cyprus. If it is an issue, you should have gone to New Zealand instead.

What a preposterously STUPID analogy.!!
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:33 pm

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:For the benefit of our British friends LR, CG, TD and RH:

Remember the painful 3 years of EU Brexit Limbo. Where Britain was trying to BREXIT and some traitors in the British Parliament and elsewhere were forcing hard BREXIT off the table. This only undermined British interests and undermined the UK against the EU and it’s bargaining power allowing the EU to do as it pleases with the UK and take away the dignity of UK as a whole and the British people.

It was only when The Conservatives won a landslide and the swamp was drained, when BORIS was able to put Hard Brexit on the table. All of a sudden, the EU started to back peddle. The very thing the EU feared the most was being thrown into their faces. UK was able to negotiate on fairer terms.

It’s the same thing here with the crisis between Greece and Turkey, if war is removed from the table, then Greece can only disadvantage itself. Turkey will do what it wants when it wants. Just like hard BREXIT, war must remain on the table in terms of Greece defending itself.

No one can expect Greece to keep backing down like it has always done and then getting shafted like the UK was for 3 years by the EU.

If any Brits feel like that is outside of their comfort zone, then may I remind you all that you chose to live in Cyprus. If it is an issue, you should have gone to New Zealand instead.

What a preposterously STUPID analogy.!!


It’s the perfect analogy.

The UK was on its knees to the EU because some traitors decided to hinder and scupper the referendum at every opportunity by denying the only good card Britain had - hard BREXIT. When the shackles were removed, the tables turned!

It’s the same with the Tensions between Greece and Turkey. Greece must maintain its nerve and resolve and appear at the very least equally determined to defend everything with any means necessary.

If Greece doesn’t, then its game over for Greece.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby miltiades » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:For the benefit of our British friends LR, CG, TD and RH:

Remember the painful 3 years of EU Brexit Limbo. Where Britain was trying to BREXIT and some traitors in the British Parliament and elsewhere were forcing hard BREXIT off the table. This only undermined British interests and undermined the UK against the EU and it’s bargaining power allowing the EU to do as it pleases with the UK and take away the dignity of UK as a whole and the British people.

It was only when The Conservatives won a landslide and the swamp was drained, when BORIS was able to put Hard Brexit on the table. All of a sudden, the EU started to back peddle. The very thing the EU feared the most was being thrown into their faces. UK was able to negotiate on fairer terms.

It’s the same thing here with the crisis between Greece and Turkey, if war is removed from the table, then Greece can only disadvantage itself. Turkey will do what it wants when it wants. Just like hard BREXIT, war must remain on the table in terms of Greece defending itself.

No one can expect Greece to keep backing down like it has always done and then getting shafted like the UK was for 3 years by the EU.

If any Brits feel like that is outside of their comfort zone, then may I remind you all that you chose to live in Cyprus. If it is an issue, you should have gone to New Zealand instead.

What a preposterously STUPID analogy.!!


It’s the perfect analogy.

The UK was on its knees to the EU because some traitors decided to hinder and scupper the referendum at every opportunity by denying the only good card Britain had - hard BREXIT. When the shackles were removed, the tables turned!

It’s the same with the Tensions between Greece and Turkey. Greece must maintain its nerve and resolve and appear at the very least equally determined to defend everything with any means necessary.

If Greece doesn’t, then its game over for Greece.

You are far gone mate. Stupidity is a virtue for you.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Maximus » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:26 pm

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan the laughable…

“This time…..
……”We will do what’s necessary!”
……”We have the finger on the trigger.”
……”We will shed our blood for our nation.”
……”We will take what rightfully belongs to us.”
……”We will relive the glory of the Ottoman Empire.”
……”We will expand our territory to the borders of our heart.”
……”We will control the Eastern Mediterranean, which is a Turkish pond, our ‘Blue Motherland’.”

Meanwhile…..

….. Millions of Turkish households are unable to pay their utility bills.
….. Inflation officially runs at 12%, unofficially closer to 30%.
….. The Turkish Lira is in a free fall with foreign investors making money betting on how much farther it will fall by a certain date.
….. His “mighty” military is demonstrating its legendary incompetence on every front.
….. His last remaining “friends” no longer able to justify their support for him, are turning their backs.
….. He begs for money to shore up his country’s failing economy from the tiny state of Qatar.
….. His famous ‘defence industry’ is paralysed by a lack of imported engines for his home produced helicopters, tanks and armoured carriers.
….. His much touted aircraft carrier that was to project “Turkish might” across the world, has become the world’s first “drone carrier” since no one will sell him planes for it.
….. His head-chopping terrorists for hire in Syria and Libya are rebelling and demanding their “pay” which they have not received in months.

“World class chess player”? More like a poor Poker Player who will bluff on hands other players would have thrown in long ago.


https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/09/01/e ... laughable/
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Kikapu » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:15 pm

Maximus wrote:
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan the laughable…

“This time…..
……”We will do what’s necessary!”
……”We have the finger on the trigger.”
……”We will shed our blood for our nation.”
……”We will take what rightfully belongs to us.”
……”We will relive the glory of the Ottoman Empire.”
……”We will expand our territory to the borders of our heart.”
……”We will control the Eastern Mediterranean, which is a Turkish pond, our ‘Blue Motherland’.”

Meanwhile…..

….. Millions of Turkish households are unable to pay their utility bills.
….. Inflation officially runs at 12%, unofficially closer to 30%.
….. The Turkish Lira is in a free fall with foreign investors making money betting on how much farther it will fall by a certain date.
….. His “mighty” military is demonstrating its legendary incompetence on every front.
….. His last remaining “friends” no longer able to justify their support for him, are turning their backs.
….. He begs for money to shore up his country’s failing economy from the tiny state of Qatar.
….. His famous ‘defence industry’ is paralysed by a lack of imported engines for his home produced helicopters, tanks and armoured carriers.
….. His much touted aircraft carrier that was to project “Turkish might” across the world, has become the world’s first “drone carrier” since no one will sell him planes for it.
….. His head-chopping terrorists for hire in Syria and Libya are rebelling and demanding their “pay” which they have not received in months.

“World class chess player”? More like a poor Poker Player who will bluff on hands other players would have thrown in long ago.


https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/09/01/e ... laughable/


Erdogan has painted himself into a corner, and the only way he can save face after all the dribble he has been spouting of his and Turkey’s greatness, is for Greece to accept negotiations on the Mediterranean. Erdogan knows he cannot attack Greece and he also knows he cannot get himself out from the corner he has painted himself into. He is pushing the EU to do what EU does best, to bring Greece to the negotiations table with Turkey. All Greece has to do now is to refuse to meet with Turkey on anything, other than go to the ICJ with Turkey.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:50 pm

https://youtu.be/aEbmRpAfIRo

A German magazine reported that Erdogan issued an order for his military to shoot down a Greek f16 or sink a Greek naval unit.. his military so far has not followed through.. Erdogan will be hiding in a hole somewhere, soon, with a box of Hershey bars, a la Sadam Hussein.
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Re: Greek forces on red alert (Turkish surveying)

Postby Maximus » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:28 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan the laughable…

“This time…..
……”We will do what’s necessary!”
……”We have the finger on the trigger.”
……”We will shed our blood for our nation.”
……”We will take what rightfully belongs to us.”
……”We will relive the glory of the Ottoman Empire.”
……”We will expand our territory to the borders of our heart.”
……”We will control the Eastern Mediterranean, which is a Turkish pond, our ‘Blue Motherland’.”

Meanwhile…..

….. Millions of Turkish households are unable to pay their utility bills.
….. Inflation officially runs at 12%, unofficially closer to 30%.
….. The Turkish Lira is in a free fall with foreign investors making money betting on how much farther it will fall by a certain date.
….. His “mighty” military is demonstrating its legendary incompetence on every front.
….. His last remaining “friends” no longer able to justify their support for him, are turning their backs.
….. He begs for money to shore up his country’s failing economy from the tiny state of Qatar.
….. His famous ‘defence industry’ is paralysed by a lack of imported engines for his home produced helicopters, tanks and armoured carriers.
….. His much touted aircraft carrier that was to project “Turkish might” across the world, has become the world’s first “drone carrier” since no one will sell him planes for it.
….. His head-chopping terrorists for hire in Syria and Libya are rebelling and demanding their “pay” which they have not received in months.

“World class chess player”? More like a poor Poker Player who will bluff on hands other players would have thrown in long ago.


https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/09/01/e ... laughable/


Erdogan has painted himself into a corner, and the only way he can save face after all the dribble he has been spouting of his and Turkey’s greatness, is for Greece to accept negotiations on the Mediterranean. Erdogan knows he cannot attack Greece and he also knows he cannot get himself out from the corner he has painted himself into. He is pushing the EU to do what EU does best, to bring Greece to the negotiations table with Turkey. All Greece has to do now is to refuse to meet with Turkey on anything, other than go to the ICJ with Turkey.


Listen to this,

“We are continuing our effort in the region within our own continental shelf in our areas of maritime jurisdiction. There is nothing that is of concern to Greece,’’ Çelik said, labelling the country a “rogue state’’ that was “exceeding its boundaries.”

Its projection, we have heard and seen this all before with the Cyprus problem.

The Turks accuse others of what it is that they are guilty of.
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