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[Paphitis]

I think it’s now time for Mossad to assassinate Erdowan. How hard could it really be for an organisation like Mossad which was able to head hunt the biggest NAZIs from the 4 corners of the globe with such clinical and expert precision?

Utter stupidity. They usually screw up, like the killing of an innocent waiter in Lillehammer. Even with all their spies in Beirut and throughout Lebanon they didn't get close to the glorious السيّد حسن in 28 years. They're just as pathetic as Boy scouts.

Really? They usually stuff up do they?

Sorry, but I’m not brave enough to be in their receiving end. I bet you they get it right 99.9% of the time.

I also bet no one will ever see it coming and I also believe they know how to cover their tracks and leave no evidence behind.

Mmmm....I’m sorry they are so much of a head fuck for you. The thing with Mossad is you never know where they are and what they do. They could have their targets under surveillance for years, before they act.

But I know! It’s just wishful thinking on your part.

I watch a documentary called NAZI hunters. Mossad have been hunting NAZIs all over the world for decades with great success. The monitored their targets in foreign countries for months. Often for years. Followed their every footsteps. Watched them in their homes, farms at their work in far flung countries as far as Argentine, and Columbia. Until it was time to hit and abduct them, with waiting charters standing by and off they went, just like that.

Btw, Hassan is lucky to be alive as Mossad did get him. He was poisoned and should be dead if it wasn’t for medical treatment he got in Iran. So don’t be dishonest, they got to the “glorious” Hassan and fucked him over real good and probably has serious health issues as a result of his encounter with Mossad.

I bet he will never forget it either. They can come anytime, anywhere. Bit like the Grim Reaper.

And terrorists like Hassan have better security than the POTUS. Never seen in public either because that’s where Mossad will be waiting.

Scumbags like Erdowan would be a much easier target for the likes of Mossad.

[Paphitis]

I think it’s now time for Mossad to assassinate Erdowan. How hard could it really be for an organisation like Mossad which was able to head hunt the biggest NAZIs from the 4 corners of the globe with such clinical and expert precision?

America fears Russia militarily and China financially, so their priorities are way different to ours here in Cyprus.

The US considers Turkey a containment of Russia in the Black sea and a base from which they can spy on Russia.

So ErdoCunt has gotten away with much... and while Israel is important to the US, it is of secondary importance compared to the containment/confrontation of Russia.

So for as long as America perceives Turkey as a southern barrier to Russia, Erdo will be getting away with… well pretty much anything!

And the fact that Erdo shot down a Russian jet a couple of years ago and Putin did not respond… has only strengthened this US perception.

So, it’s up to Turkey’s opponents to sway American opinion in a different direction, if the US is to start treating Turkey differently… but unfortunately neither Greece nor Cyprus has ever produced a politician capable of convincing an ant to change course, let alone America.

Unfortunately, we are stuck in limbo and only drastic action (ie: war) can dislodge this horrible catch-22.

Turkey being a southern barrier to Russia is an obsolete perception.

Turkey is more of a threat to Europe and the med than Russia is.

And to think, she was a candidate country to become a member of the EU.

It has turned out to be the biggest joke of the millennium and a Trojan horse that the EU quite nearly fell for..

Tell all that to Uncle Sam who is stuck in his 50s mentality... America can’t even normalize their relationship with Cuba over half a century on... and all Turkey had to do was remind Trump that Turkey aided in the Korean War and he was instantly bought!

America is always run by some old geezer living 50 years in the past.

There is definitely a bit of that. Not that the Americans like that arsehole. They know he is a totally idiotic imbecile. But they have him in their hands as a member of NATO.

But Russia is coming into the fray trying to dislodge Turkey from NATO with the Americans walking on egg shells trying to keep them in the NATO framework. But their belligerence knows no bounds.

They bought the S400s. The reason why America didn’t want the S400 is because the F-35 is stealthy against the S400 Radar. The Russians know this. However, when there is line of sight at some point, the F-35 is no longer stealthy. The Russians don’t know at what range. Could be 20 miles, 30 miles or 40 miles. The Russians want to know this number, the Americans are careful not to fly the F-35 or F-22 within that range and offer the Russians this valuable piece of intelligence. If Turkey has S400, and get the F-35, then the Russians probably have done Telemetry to gain the intelligence they need.

When the Americans sell the F-35 to countries like let’s say Australia and Israel, there are operational conditions and limitations to protect sensitive information. One is that Australia is not to operate these aircraft within range of Indonesian S300 or S400. Which is why we have the EW-18G. In Israel’s case, it is fo not operate within range of Russian S300 and S400 in Latakia, Syria and so on. So they have the F-16s and F-15s.

So the Americans canned the Turkish F-35 program.

In the end, many countries are starting to wake up. Germany just had their epiphany moment so hopefully the Americans get their’s as well. One thing I do know, if Turkey acts militarily against Greece, there is no way the Americans will tolerate it or turn a blind eye. Let’s hope the Turks are that stupid.

Oh yeh, our politicians have always been dropping the ball. Mitsotakis might be different though. He had done a lot already so I get the impression there may be some changes. Greece response on the Thracian border with the illegal immigrants and also in the Aegean and Med has been impressive so far.

Russia didn’t retaliate against Turkey not because they fear Turkey. Russian objectives seem to be to dislodge Turkey from NATO. I hope Russia achieves that objective. And it will be good riddance from me as Turkey is just pure trash!

[Paphitis]

I did my bit yesterday, and am trying to think of other ways to mobilise my country Australia to voice its dismay against Turkey, because let’s face it - Turkey is breaking international law and norms. It’s not because I have a clear bias. It is evident to everyone, Turkey is a rogue threatening Greece with war land annexation of its territories and islands even.

I have enough intellect to also acknowledge if Greece is breaking any laws which it clearly isn’t.

I called the Office of Foreign Affairs and had a good and very polite chat with Senator Payne’s advisor working in her office. A very intelligent man who was very interested in what I had to say. Also very knowledgeable. He himself mentioned the occupation of Cyprus and Agia Sophia even. I was amazed at the level of knowledge he had and he agreed with everything I had to say.

Comparisons were even made with China. I pointed out nicely that Australia is conducting freedom of navigation in the South China Sea. Which is good I said because our country must be consistent with international law.

But I also said Greece and Turkey are probably headed towards war. He told me that as Australia we would hope that no such eventuality will ever take place. So I told him Australia can do its bit but voicing its concerns with Turkish diplomats and he said the Minister would be taking every opportunity to do just that.

We covered a lot.

He invited me to put my concerns in writing, for the Minister. I did that.

I felt as if there was already recognition of the tension between Greece and Turkey and already an acknowledgement of who is to blame. He added that Australia and Greece have a great relationship, and any illegal move by Turkey to make claims on the Greek or Cypriot EEZ or claims over any Greek Islands will be viewed very dimly by the Australian Government and that Australia will always liaise with Greece on the matter as well as other NATO allies, in particular with France. Australia and France are very much in cahoots these days with Morrison and Macron being very close. So in other words, Australia is very much on France’s side with regard to Libya. And also on Greece’s side.

See what happens.

Usually when you write, you do get a reply. It may take a couple of weeks but they do reply with a signed letter.

But I had the impression this individual was already well aware of Turkey and what it was doing.

I hope many people take the time to do this. Every little bit helps.

[Maximus]

12 dessault rafales from France on the way to Greece and a couple more frigates.

[Paphitis]

12 dessault rafales from France on the way to Greece and a couple more frigates.

Well, those Rafales will definitely stuff things up for Turkey.

If they get the F-35 as well, and still have a mix of M2000 and F-16 Block 52+, then Turkey is toast.

All they have is the F-16s.

[Maximus]

Turkey was toast the moment the Greece, Egypt, Israel + Cyprus alliance was formalized.

Now France, plus the UAE have joined the alliance.

She has no chance if it goes this far. Turkey cant take all these military's on by herself. especially when the objective is to control a large area of the med between Crete and Cyprus.

Turkey is flanked on both sides plus Egypt at the end. its like running a gauntlet with an instant burial at the bottom of the med..

[Paphitis]

Turkey was toast the moment the Greece, Egypt, Israel + Cyprus alliance was formalized.

Now France, plus the UAE have joined the alliance.

She has no chance if it goes this far. Turkey cant take all these military's on by herself. especially when the objective is to control a large area of the med between Crete and Cyprus.

Turkey is flanked on both sides plus Egypt at the end. its like running a gauntlet with an instant burial at the bottom of the med..

Netanyahu came out today and slammed Brussels and the EU.

He basically told the Europeans that they are traitors! He said that Greece gave them the foundations of their civilization, and the EU has failed Greece and is supporting Turkey.

He is basically saying to them to put sanctions on Turkey.

Are the sanctions still going through?

[Maximus]

I would expect some kind of flimsy sanctions from the EU in September, something symbolic but quite ineffectual. Is to be expected from them given their track record. Things have to boil over before they take the drastic measures.

They are talking about sanctions that target the illegality of Turkish intentions to prospect and drill in EU member states sovereign territory.,

Borrel who chaired the meeting on Thursday and Friday said the bloc was ready to sanction Turkish vessels, block their access to EU ports and cut off supplies. The EU could also impose sanctions on the Turkish economy.

Turkey's candidacy for EU membership could also be formally withdrawn.

Then on the other hand, they are saying that Turkey could be rewarded with greater access to the European market if she curtails the drilling.

They keep feeding the beast until one day they might come to regret it and the cost to resolve the problems increases. These illegal prospecting activities by turkey is just the tip of the iceberg, given Turkey rhetoric, they have their eyes on neo Ottoman expansions and stealing territory from their neighbors. The problem is much bigger than EEZ's but more countries would also be drawn in to it.

History is repeating itself and Turkey will probably, eventually be decimated if she continues on this path.

[Paphitis]

Turkish F-16s intercepted Greek F-16s whilst the Hreek F-16s were escorting a B-52 bomber.

This is a good thing because the Smerican B-52 would have witnessed the provocation.

[repulsewarrior]

...you guys talk of the confrontation in the air, or at sea.

Turkey's greatest strength militarily is her Army.

...Greece's greatest threat comes through the Balkans, in that regard.