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[repulsewarrior]

Egypt, equipment wise has a slight advantage but in experience, plain and simple more seasoned forces in the air and on the sea. Never mind the logistics of supplying the Turkish Army, as far away as Libya.

...don't forget that Turkey's pilots for the most part were put in jail; training pilots for combat is more demanding than teaching someone to fly these planes.

While their Navy is Modern, ten years ago it was not the fighting force it claims to be today.

In any case there are lots of interlocutors who have a direct interest in the balance of power in this region, which Turkey disrupts. Egypt will not find herself alone, i suspect.

Libya, let's not forget, offends many neighbours by ignoring UNCLOS,and the Principals it represents. Without recognising these agreements, (and Cyprus), what is its Executive support, officially sanctioned by the UN, can also be withdrawn.

...(not China, Russia, Egypt, NATO or the USA, but Turkey, the colonialist power over which Libyans, the majority of them, must overcome.)

[Paphitis]

'Greek armed forces on alert over Turkish exploration off Kastellorizo'

Imagine the 'Alert' during 1974..... next to nothing.
Proving CY is NOT a Greek island.
But anyway...

One for Paphiti proving they're angry but wont and cannot do bugger all.

https://knews.kathimerini.com.cy/en/new ... CQylvt-ogs

When we as Cypriots talk about 1974, we are comparing to a Greek Regime that did a coup in Cyprus. A Greek Regime that actually betrayed.

Greece today, is free from this regime, but a member of NATO. That is an extremely important thing because in NATO, they have influence and access to some powers within it

It's true that Greece probably won't do a thing for Cyprus. Neither will Egypt, or Israel, Each will look after their own territory and interests. At most, if either Egypt or Israel see their Oil Transmission lines disrupted, they will act and seemingly in our interests but what it will come down to is their Oil and gas pipelines and protecting them. That's the bottom line here.

Greece will be hell bent protecting its own islands and Thrace from possible Turkish action. It does not have the capacity to fight wars for us, at best just look after themselves. But that in itself helps us, because it keeps the Turks pre-occupied on multiple fronts. For the same reasons, Israel and Egypt are important.

The alliance between these 4 countries is important. The stars seem to align for the 4 of them as they seem united against Turkey, motivated of course by the vast Oil and Gas deposits which Turkey is trying to disrupt.

[Paphitis]

'Egyptian naval drill was message to Tu***y'
Egypt is reportedly boosting its naval presence after Turkey began to send more ships and weapons, as well as Syrian refugees recruited as mercenaries, to fight in neighboring Libya.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/egypt ... te1_4jpsTE

I’m not a fan or a lover of Turkey but I would argue Turkey can fuck Egypt and similar forces without unzipping its pants. France is flexing its muscles and antagonising Turkey. I bet my bottom dollar it will end up in tears for them. Don’t fuck with Turks is my piece of advice. Cheers.

Max, please give us a date when Turkey will go bankrupt and Greece and Cyprus will join forces and wipe the cunts off the face of the earth

I disagree with that.

Egypt is plenty strong enough to hurt Turkey real bad.

[Maximus]

RW is correct,

Paphitis knows the score.

Egypt is a match for Turkey in terms of military numbers and firepower but Egypt has an advantage.

She doesnt have as much of a logistical nightmare as Turkey does. Turkey has to transport equipment and supplies by air and sea to Libya.

Both will be disrupted and eliminated limiting the number of military assets she can get on the ground.

If you add Greece (or France) in to the equation, man power and firepower is overwhelming for Turkey. She is basically flanked on both sides and will be running a gauntlet to get supplies and military assets to the battle field. Neither will make it in this scenario. Greece and Egypt can do real damage to Turkey that she will regret over stepping the mark with them...

Further to this Turkey doesnt have the moral high ground. Politically she will be isolated, her economy will likely collapse and Turks at home will mount pressure to end the foreign adventures. Egyptians support their military intervention in Libya to protect their country. Turkey just wants to prove a point. And this will be her down fall. Turkey over estimates and over extends herself and will end up getting battered and bruised falling flat on her nose.

[Paphitis]

There are plenty of positives as far as we are concerned. Egypt, and Israel are able to control the East Med easily. Add France to the mix, and it's game over.

But along with that, the USA is becoming more sympathetic to us. For so long, the US was careful to not upset Turkey, but the US is less likely to ant to upset Egypt, Israel and Greece. These 3 are of more value than Turkey, so Turkey could become the sacrificial lamb for the first time.

Greece can be a big help if they get the F-35s. It's an extremely important acquisition that will tilt the balance in their favour especially if Turkey don't get them. Along with the F-35s Israel will get, and possibly Egypt too, then it becomes a nightmare for Turkey because there isn't an aircraft that can compete with the F-35.

In Greece's case, it will be a financial burden. But 40 off F-35s will be enough to have the Turks very worried. I would say the F-35s are GAME OVER for Turkey!

Erdogan has plenty to worry about. Which is probably why he is converting Hagia Sophia into a mosque. he looks as though he is losing control and needing this as a distraction.

he has been playing a dangerous game, trying to play off the Russians against the Americans. Don't for a second think the Americans are stupid and don't know it. This is the reason why they cancelled the F-35s contracts.

[Maximus]

I agree about the f35's. That in itself is game over.

But I am talking about the present situation. Turkey is out gunned and out manned and has a logistical nightmare against Egypt by herself.

Enter Greece,

The Hellenic air force has planes that are "tuned" up and better than turkeys. Their pilots are better and they have plenty experience chasing them out the Aegean.

Add the Hellenic navy in to the mix and turkey won't get any military assets on the ground in Libya.

Turkey has basically been unobstructed by these in libya up until now.

But tell me what war has turkey fought and won in the last 100 years?

Against an unarmed little Cyprus with UK and US covert support?

Against a battered and depleted Syrian army? Which she was complaining about because they were shooting back and gaining ground.

Against some Kurdish women with light weapons?

You see the trend here?

[Get Real!]

RW is correct,

Paphitis knows the score.

Egypt is a match for Turkey in terms of military numbers and firepower but Egypt has an advantage.

You’re all clueless...

1st division - Nuclear power (TRIAD even) with space program participation and superior technology/logistics.

France, Britain, Germany, etc

2nd division - Enormous continuous aid recipient and long-term assistance from the West; essentially spoon-fed for political reasons.

Turkey, Israel, etc

3rd division - No significant foreign aid, screwed up internal politics/policies, struggling in every way.

Egypt, Greece, etc

[Maximus]

I don't agree with your league table.

That's ridiculous.

Egypt ranks 9th in the world for military power which is Above turkey.

If they had a nuclear weapon they would be up there in the first division going by your rankings.

Greece, no way third division.

[Get Real!]

I don't agree with your league table.

That's ridiculous.

Egypt ranks 9th in the world for military power which is Above turkey.

If they had a nuclear weapon they would be up there in the first division going by your rankings.

Greece, no way third division.

I don’t know where you’re getting your info from but I’m pretty sure it’s coming from a clueless fool like you.

Maybe some Greek far-right website...

[Maximus]

Are you getting your info from your own imagination? Where are YOU getting it from?

Egypt's military strength is stronger than turkeys.