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Postby growuptcs » Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:27 am

Perastikos sounds like you dont have any beliefs. I respect TCs much more than you because at least they're fighting for what they believe. They may not truly believe what their fighting for but they have something to go on. You have no beliefs, don't even know till this moment who you are and what your fighting for except to piss the shit out of Greeks. Just keep sitting there talking shit and one day if you ever have to fight for your family in some sort of way, I think you'll be the first one to try and talk it out and if things dont go your way, i think your just a chicken shit that would walk away not even worry about the embarrasment. Personally I think your a chicken who claims hes better than the rest. Not testing you, just telling you about your true colors that I read in your wording. Ill go back to talking to the wall myself cause it has more pride than you.
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Postby Agios Amvrosios » Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:28 am

We are loosing and we keep loosing.


Re parasito Kyrenia Refugees have nothing left to lose. At worst they may lose refugee property bonds. Do you want us to be citizens of the Europe who enjoy all the entitlements bestowed upon us through the European Charterof human or do you want us to have the same rights as illegal immigrant cabaret dancers.

When and if Cypriots start accepting that they are less than human the only thing we will be laughing and crying about is our lacerated cabaret dancer sphincters.
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Postby Lala_Mustafa_Pasha » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:39 am

cypezokyli
and if we believe that negotiation under occupation can only be "unfair" or a "surrender" can you please tell me the other choises we have?
two of these forum are...:
1. war !!!!!!!
2. wait till the balance of power changes


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This is ridiculous, I mean don't you understand what "negotiations" actually means, do you know what CYPRUS means.

Let me explain, if we are to move forward toward a unified Cyprus or at least friendly relations, we have to get the notion of ALL OF CYPRUS IS MINE MINE MINE, ITS A GREEK ISLAND NO ITS TURKISH.

Very counter-productive nonsense, if we are to argue for Cyprus then it must be Cyprus and to view everyone as equal as a Cypriot and an Island for Cypriots but thats somthing you just can't understand because as you say, you think YOUR under occupation :roll:

Since when was Cyprus a Greek Cypriots Island, since when did you own it, since when did the Republic of Cyprus mean Greek.

You just dont get it, the more you call it YOUR Island the more Turks will use the same argument against you.

They'll say, Brittish rented our Island AND NEVER GAVE IT BACK, WE WANT IT BACK.

Currently there is no such movement but its cos of people like you that such a view could arise.

What war? do you actually seriously want another war, its ridiculous, firstly the Greek Junta harmed innocent Greek Cypriots and killed many.

If the Turkish Millitary hadnt intervined you'd be living under a Junta Regime with Sampson as King that sounds great doesnt it :roll:

Are these the best Negotiations you can bring to the table, jeeez

Please, you just make yourselves look bad, take tips from Perastikos, a logical, open minded man, he gives me hope and love to Greek Cypriots, all you do is make what Turkish Nationalists say about you sound 100% true, you dont want Negotiations, you don't want to see Turks on the Island, you see the Island as solely Greek.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:49 am

Lala, who said that Cyprus is Greek island in here? Apart from you that grabbed a part of Cyprus, ethnically cleansed it and called it Turkish, nobody else does that.

You just dont get it, the more you call it YOUR Island the more Turks will use the same argument against you.


Cyprus belongs to Cypriots, we are Cypriots so Cyprus is our island. What exactly is your problem with that? If Cyprus does not belong to Cypriots, then to whom does it belong according to you? To the British or the Ottomans?

They'll say, Brittish rented our Island AND NEVER GAVE IT BACK, WE WANT IT BACK.

Currently there is no such movement but its cos of people like you that such a view could arise.

Lala the people that think like that are barbarians (and not the whole TC community as you tried to lie before). Colonization is over my friend. Slavery and selling and buying people between Ottomans, British etc is over.

you dont want Negotiations, you don't want to see Turks on the Island, you see the Island as solely Greek.


The Turkish nationalists like you will believe whatever they want to believe no matter what we say. You are a live example. Nobody in here said anything about not wanting Turkish Cypriots on the island, or that Cyprus should be solely Greek. Yet, since you are a brainwashed racist nationalist in your mind you will always imagine that we say things that in fact we never said, so you can excuse yourselves for committing your crimes against us.
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Postby Lala_Mustafa_Pasha » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:51 pm

Pirastis you know alot of big words but sadly dont know any of their meanings :lol:

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Cyprus belongs to Cypriots, we are Cypriots so Cyprus is our island. What exactly is your problem with that?


Jeez, your a mental case, this is what I have been saying all along, its you who says its MINE, MINE, MINE you say its YOUR land, to you Cyprus means Greek, your vocabulary towards Turks is -Barbarians, sub-human etc etc, maybe the one idiot who may agree with being ethnically cleansed from the Island by you could agree with you lol.

You've been blabbering on for ages about how those Turks are on your Island hehe, what kind of Cyprus is this, oh thats it Cyprus is just a word for you, just say Greek in future it will save you alot of hassle.

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Yet, since you are a brainwashed racist nationalist


All these words have meaning, you go and get a dictionary, look up the meanings and then prove to me where I have been Racist, Nationalist, Brainwashed etc etc, these are just more empty words.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:56 pm

Jeez, your a mental case, this is what I have been saying all along, its you who says its MINE, MINE, MINE you say its YOUR land, to you Cyprus means Greek


Thanks for proving that no matter what we say you will imagine that we said something else.
I repeat: Cyprus is our island because we are Cypriots. If you are Cypriot too then this "ours" includes you.
Yes, I know you will not understand because of the reason I said in my previews post. I just want to see how fool you are willing to make yourself by pretending not to understand the 100% clear things that I say.

your vocabulary towards Turks is -Barbarians, sub-human etc etc

I never said "sub-human" you are a liar. Give the link to the post I used this phrase! I said barbarians, not for Turks in general but for those that support the illegal occupation of my country and the violations of our human and democratic rights. Those are barbarians. Why you defend them? Because you are one of them?

Have you ever seen me defending the Greek junta, EOKA B, or the crimes against TCs? They are barbarian criminals as well, and I am not defending them because I am not one of them.

What I ask for is democracy and human rights for all Cypriots without racial discrimination.

You've been blabbering on for ages about how those Turks are on your Island hehe, what kind of Cyprus is this, oh thats it Cyprus is just a word for you, just say Greek in future it will save you alot of hassle.

The foreign Turkish troops and the illegal Turkish settlers that are on our (=Cypriot) island have to go. This is the island of Cypriots (TCs and GCs) not the land of Turkey.

I made it as clear as possible. Even a 5 year old can understand that my problem is with the people that insist on human and democratic rights violations, and NOT with any race, community or minority.

My problem is with people like you, and many (i hope most) TCs are not like you, and with the dictatorial administration of Turkey which is controlled by the army.

All these words have meaning, you go and get a dictionary, look up the meanings and then prove to me where I have been Racist, Nationalist, Brainwashed etc etc, these are just more empty words.


Nationalism: loyalty and devotion to a nation or ethnic group that places emphasis on promoting the interests, cultural and social values, or religion of one group above all others


You are a Nationalist because you are trying to gain as much as possible for your own ethnic group even if this would mean the gross violations of the human, legal and democratic rights of another group. In fact you support partition, which has always been the dream of the TC nationalists.

Racism: a form of discrimination based on race, especially the belief that one race is superior to another. Racism may be expressed individually and consciously, through explicit thoughts, feelings, or acts, or socially and unconsciously, through institutions that promote inequality between races.


You are a racist because you want to separate Cypriots based on their race. For you not all Cypriots can be equal citizens. You demand discriminations based on race even if that would mean the violations of the basic human and democratic rights of many people.

So you are a Nationalist and a Racist, no doubt about this 2. Are you also brainwashed? I believe you are. If all these nationalist, racists beliefs that you have are part of your nature and not the result of brainwashing, then fine, you are not brainwashed. But that would be really sad for you if you are naturally like that.
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Postby bg_turk » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:05 pm

You are a racist too Piratis, because you want the Turkish immigrants from the TRNC to be expelled just because of their race.
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Postby Simon » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:07 pm

Perastikos sounds like you dont have any beliefs. I respect TCs much more than you because at least they're fighting for what they believe. They may not truly believe what their fighting for but they have something to go on. You have no beliefs, don't even know till this moment who you are and what your fighting for except to piss the shit out of Greeks. Just keep sitting there talking shit and one day if you ever have to fight for your family in some sort of way, I think you'll be the first one to try and talk it out and if things dont go your way, i think your just a chicken shit that would walk away not even worry about the embarrasment. Personally I think your a chicken who claims hes better than the rest. Not testing you, just telling you about your true colors that I read in your wording. Ill go back to talking to the wall myself cause it has more pride than you.


Totally agree, the man is a complete idiot. :lol:
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:19 pm

You are a racist too Piratis, because you want the Turkish immigrants from the TRNC to be expelled just because of their race.

They are not immigrants, they are illegal settlers of Turkey. The racists are those that brought them here trying to replace the Greek Cypriots that they had ethnically cleansed because of their race.

I want the settlers to go back to Turkey not because of the race they belong, but because they came to Cyprus illegally, their race is irrelevant.

Laws exist to be respect and they are the same for all races without any kind of discrimination.

The ones that can legally stay (e.g. are married with TC) they will.
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Postby bg_turk » Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:22 pm

But many of them were born on Cyprus, how can you expell some Cypriots because their parents were immigrants. That is as racist as one can get!
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