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[Kikapu]

That’s just how I imagined Erolz. The villain in a James Bond movie. (sorry about the smileys )

So which villain in James Bond films would you most associate Erol with?

Obvious. Doctor NO, NO, NO!

I would have said “Goldfinger”, because of his passion for metal commodities!

I guess my third nipple is not very clear on that photo

I did look for it, or else you would have been given the name “Scaramanga” in The man with the Golden Gun!

[Tim Drayton]

Having just travelled by bus, I can confirm that the local buses in Limassol are running as normal.

[Tim Drayton]

According to the official figures available here:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... ndandwales

these are the number of deaths reported in the UK for weeks ending in February and March from 2015 to 2019:

06-Feb-15 13-Feb-15 20-Feb-15 27-Feb-15 06-Mar-15 13-Mar-15 20-Mar-15 27-Mar-15


12,039 11,822 11,434 11,472 11,469 10,951 10,568 10,493

05-Feb-16 12-Feb-16 19-Feb-16 26-Feb-16 04-Mar-16 11-Mar-16 18-Mar-16 25-Mar-16

11,052 11,170 10,590 11,056 11,285 11,010 11,022 9,635

03-Feb-17 10-Feb-17 17-Feb-17 24-Feb-17 03-Mar-17 10-Mar-17 17-Mar-17 24-Mar-17 31-Mar-17


12,485 12,269 11,644 11,794 11,248 11,077 10,697 10,325 10,027

02-Feb-18 09-Feb-18 16-Feb-18 23-Feb-18 02-Mar-18 09-Mar-18 16-Mar-18 23-Mar-18 30-Mar-18


13,285 12,495 12,246 12,142 10,854 12,997 12,788 11,913 9,941
01-Feb-19 08-Feb-19 15-Feb-19 22-Feb-19 01-Mar-19 08-Mar-19 15-Mar-19 22-Mar-19 29-Mar-19


11,297 11,660 11,824 11,295 11,044 10,898 10,567 10,402 9,867

and these are the figures so far for this year:

07-Feb-20 14-Feb-20 21-Feb-20 28-Feb-20 06-Mar-20 13-Mar-20


10,986 10,944 10,841 10,816 10,895 11,019

You will notice that this year so far there have been if anything slightly fewer deaths than average.

[Tim Drayton]

What retired Professor of Pathology, Dr John Lee, says with reference to the death statistics:

“The simplest way to judge whether we have an exceptionally lethal disease is to look at the death rates. Are more people dying than we would expect to die anyway in a given week or month? Statistically, we would expect about 51,000 to die in Britain this month. At the time of writing, 422 deaths are linked to Covid-19 — so 0.8 per cent of that expected total. On a global basis, we’d expect 14 million to die over the first three months of the year. The world’s 18,944 coronavirus deaths represent 0.14 per cent of that total. These figures might shoot up but they are, right now, lower than other infectious diseases that we live with (such as flu). Not figures that would, in and of themselves, cause drastic global reactions.”

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The ... s-we-think

[CrookedRiverGuy]

07-Feb-20 14-Feb-20 21-Feb-20 28-Feb-20 06-Mar-20 13-Mar-20

10,986 10,944 10,841 10,816 10,895 11,019

You will notice that this year so far there have been if anything slightly fewer deaths than average.

Ahem, Tim.... Your stats ended on March 13th. At that time there were only eleven (11!) Corona related deaths in the UK

During week 12 (March 20th): Another 166
During week 13 (March 27th): Another 582
So far in week 14 (March 28th and 29th): Another 469 in two days

So mortality rose by 250X from your reference period til past two days

[erolz66]

Thanks for the data source link Tim. Personally I think it is too early to draw any conclusions from the mortality data available so far. In another month or 6 weeks time there will be sufficient data to start being able to do so.

[CrookedRiverGuy]

07-Feb-20 14-Feb-20 21-Feb-20 28-Feb-20 06-Mar-20 13-Mar-20

10,986 10,944 10,841 10,816 10,895 11,019

You will notice that this year so far there have been if anything slightly fewer deaths than average.

Ahem, Tim.... Your stats ended on March 13th. At that time there were only eleven (11!) Corona related deaths in the UK

During week 12 (March 20th): Another 166
During week 13 (March 27th): Another 582
So far in week 14 (March 28th and 29th): Another 469 in two days

So mortality rose by 250X from your reference period til past two days

UK appears to follow the trajectory of France and Italy

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[Paphitis]

Quite... There seems to be no distinction in the press between those that die with the disease and those that actually die from it.

I don't believe there's much need to split. Even if you are 90 with no more than 6-12 months expected life time and suddenly have your lungs fill with this gore and die in less than one week, isn't it quite obvious that the cause of death is the Corona virus?

But that isn't what is happening...

People are dying of other illnesses and being tested post mortem to discover they had the virus.

Sure, there will be some that contract it and die of it but my understanding is that many in the stats just happen to die with it...

A comparison of the numbers that would normally die every day/month would seem to confirm this.

It will come to the point where somebody will fall from the top of a skyscraper and be killed and then, if a postmortem shows that person to have the dreaded virus in them, this will chalked up as yet another covid-19 death!

Yes, apparently even the weekly death statistics in Italy show fewer people dying in recent weeks in the country than in the corresponding weeks of last year. Yet if we were to believe the media hype, people are dropping like flies in Italy.

I saw some statistics the other day that the actual global mortality rate is the same. In other words, it hasn't increased which is quite interesting in my view.

There seems to be a lot of hype over China Flu but at the same time, the doomsdayers won't mention actual mortality rates with previous years or compare the yearly common flu death tolls.

[Tim Drayton]

Like these statistics on a European level:

“The official figures for 24 countries across Europe show, not only that overall mortality is not increasing, but – so far – it is actually well below recent averages.

The statistics were gathered by the European Monitoring of Excess Mortality for Public Health Action (EuroMOMO), an international partnership of agencies from 24 European nations aiming to promote preparedness for public health emergencies.”

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/cov ... mortality/

[Paphitis]

Like these statistics on a European level:

“The official figures for 24 countries across Europe show, not only that overall mortality is not increasing, but – so far – it is actually well below recent averages.

The statistics were gathered by the European Monitoring of Excess Mortality for Public Health Action (EuroMOMO), an international partnership of agencies from 24 European nations aiming to promote preparedness for public health emergencies.”

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/cov ... mortality/

Apparently even Italy's and Spain's mortality rate is less than in previous years.