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[Kikapu]

Like these statistics on a European level:

“The official figures for 24 countries across Europe show, not only that overall mortality is not increasing, but – so far – it is actually well below recent averages.

The statistics were gathered by the European Monitoring of Excess Mortality for Public Health Action (EuroMOMO), an international partnership of agencies from 24 European nations aiming to promote preparedness for public health emergencies.”

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/cov ... mortality/

Apparently even Italy's and Spain's mortality rate is less than in previous years.

Sorry guys, but you are getting a false results because you are not comparing oranges to oranges, but oranges to lemons, which is why your are getting lemon results.

Just as GR pointed out the other day, due to the lockdowns worldwide at the moment, there are far less accidental deaths just because more people are safer at home than being out.

In any case, it is far too early make any scientific conclusions as to whether the world’s death rates have risen or not due to Coronavirus, if we ever do that is, as long as the comparisons made are between oranges and lemons.

[Paphitis]

Like these statistics on a European level:

“The official figures for 24 countries across Europe show, not only that overall mortality is not increasing, but – so far – it is actually well below recent averages.

The statistics were gathered by the European Monitoring of Excess Mortality for Public Health Action (EuroMOMO), an international partnership of agencies from 24 European nations aiming to promote preparedness for public health emergencies.”

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/cov ... mortality/

Apparently even Italy's and Spain's mortality rate is less than in previous years.

Sorry guys, but you are getting a false results because you are not comparing oranges to oranges, but oranges to lemons, which is why your are getting lemon results.

Just as GR pointed out the other day, due to the lockdowns worldwide at the moment, there are far less accidental deaths just because more people are safer at home than being out.

In any case, it is far too early make any scientific conclusions as to whether the world’s death rates have risen or not due to Coronavirus, if we ever do that is, as long as the comparisons made are between oranges and lemons.

No comparisons have been made yet and certainly no conclusions.

It's just interesting to us that the 30,000 or so China Virus deaths have not so far resulted in an increase in global mortality rates. That raises some questions to me that the 30,000 China Virus deaths may not have died as a result of China Virus but some may have died anyway just by catching the common flu owing to other pre existing conditions these poor people already had. I don't know the reasons for it as there needs to be a thorough analysis. I also know that the common flu results in many deaths. I don't know the statistics, but there doesn't seem to be a very big fuss about the common flu. Maybe for good reason, as the China Virus could be a very potent strain and one that is continuously evolving but so does the common flu as it builds a better resistance to our antibiotics.

[miltiades]

Shut up you self opinionated fucking idiot !!

[Paphitis]

Shut up you self opinionated fucking idiot !!

get lost you idiot!

Can't even believe I sent you a PM 2 days ago wishing you luck with the lock down and wishes to stay safe which you haven't even opened.

You see Milti, I have a VERY big heart!

And you are a fool! A toxic, nasty, pestilent, bitter fool!

[miltiades]

Shut up you self opinionated fucking idiot !!

get lost you idiot!

Can't even believe I sent you a PM 2 days ago wishing you luck with the lock down and wishes to stay safe which you haven't even opened.

You see Milti, I have a VERY big heart!

And you are a fool! A toxic, nasty, pestilent, bitter fool!

Blatant stupidity causes me severe disgust. Your views on everything are nauseating .

[Paphitis]

Shut up you self opinionated fucking idiot !!

get lost you idiot!

Can't even believe I sent you a PM 2 days ago wishing you luck with the lock down and wishes to stay safe which you haven't even opened.

You see Milti, I have a VERY big heart!

And you are a fool! A toxic, nasty, pestilent, bitter fool!

Blatant stupidity causes me severe disgust. Your views on everything are nauseating .

If they are nauseating, there is a very simple procedure you can do. You can block my posts.

Maybe you need some lessons in tolerance and respect of other people's opinions and views. I can't ever say I get nauseated with people's views. I just walk away when I can't be bothered or change the subject.

My views are my views and I have as much right as you to express them.

Now stay safe yero. You still haven't opened that nice PM I sent you. Obviously, some are more disgusting than others. That would be you yero. Because I actually have feelings for the people at the other end especially when things get heated and because I know you are in a high risk group owing to your age, drinking habit, and medical conditions.

So I can't be that disgusting can I?

You are just an ungrateful and disgusting human being.

having said that, I still mean every word and hope your lock down passes easily for you and that you can spend that time with family and stay safe from China Virus.

[Tim Drayton]

07-Feb-20 14-Feb-20 21-Feb-20 28-Feb-20 06-Mar-20 13-Mar-20

10,986 10,944 10,841 10,816 10,895 11,019

You will notice that this year so far there have been if anything slightly fewer deaths than average.

Ahem, Tim.... Your stats ended on March 13th. At that time there were only eleven (11!) Corona related deaths in the UK

During week 12 (March 20th): Another 166
During week 13 (March 27th): Another 582
So far in week 14 (March 28th and 29th): Another 469 in two days

So mortality rose by 250X from your reference period til past two days

Well, we have two more weeks of data:

Week ended March 20: 10,145
Week ended March 27: 11,141

Sorry, but I am still looking for some reflection in official statistics of all the hysterical, slanted reporting.

[RichardB]

Shut up you self opinionated fucking idiot !!

And the post of the year award goes to mitiades

Love it.. Bang on the button

[cyprusgrump]

07-Feb-20 14-Feb-20 21-Feb-20 28-Feb-20 06-Mar-20 13-Mar-20

10,986 10,944 10,841 10,816 10,895 11,019

You will notice that this year so far there have been if anything slightly fewer deaths than average.

Ahem, Tim.... Your stats ended on March 13th. At that time there were only eleven (11!) Corona related deaths in the UK

During week 12 (March 20th): Another 166
During week 13 (March 27th): Another 582
So far in week 14 (March 28th and 29th): Another 469 in two days

So mortality rose by 250X from your reference period til past two days

Well, we have two more weeks of data:

Week ended March 20: 10,145
Week ended March 27: 11,141

Sorry, but I am still looking for some reflection in official statistics of all the hysterical, slanted reporting.

A very good point made elsewhere...

The Excess Winter Deaths for England & Wales are published by the ONS and the number of winter deaths tends to fluctuate from one year to the next. I imagine that after a year in which there is an above average number of Excess Winter Deaths the population is relatively more robust so that fewer die in the following year.

Starting from winter 2000-2001, the lowest number of Excess Winter Deaths was 17,280 in 2013-14 and the highest was 49,410 in 2017-18. Last year the figure was ‘only’ 23,200 and a linear trend line would produce 33,390 Excess Winter Deaths for the current season.

The ONS figures only come out after all the others but they have the advantage of not having been monkeyed about with.

Clicky...

[Get Real!]

I don’t understand all the fuss about released figures that may be ±5% or even ±10%!

Does it take away from the virus?