Maximus wrote:What are you on?
it is obvious that war will create refugees, genuine refugees can seek assylem through legal and more appropriate channels.
But you are just using the word refugee to be a catchall for everyone migrating to and using violent means to force their way through Europe.
War creates refugees, we are agreed on that at least. War in Syria has created refugees. 10's of millions of them. They are somewhere. You want to believe that none of them or almost none of them are at Greece's boarder, that these people are not refugees, that they are 95% 'economic migrants', who have a safe home and country to live in but just want to move to a better place. That does not appear credible to me and seems more a function of what you would like to believe ?
As for violent means, these people are not using tear gas to get in to Europe. They are not using guns, war planes, cruise missiles. It is Turkey and Russia and UK and US and France and many other EU nations directly or indirectly that used and are using such means both to cause the destruction in Syria that created the refugees and also to either try and keep them out of a country or push them from one country to another. These people are not the 'criminals', they are the victims imo.